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Cant poast any truth on Warhammer alliance!

EQTarbosEQTarbos Member Posts: 130
in Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
Welp just posted about the Ea spliting up the mythic dev team to go work on UO and that lasted about um 4 min
LoL so dont go over their and post anything about what EA is doing or going todo.



go to the UO page on mmorpg.com and read it thats what i copyed and pasted and they closed the fourm lol


o well guess the fan boys win agian













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  • JtHMJtHM Member Posts: 122
    Nope, sorry, I have to call BS... You didn't post truth, you posted speculation, which really serves no purpose. And you leaped to unfounded conclussions based on the little snippet of a news blurb from the UO page. It simply states that Mythic will be helping with UO, nothing more. YOU seem to think that that translates to the WAR team getting split to work on UO. If you knew anything about Mythic's policy and history you'd know this to not be the case... Mythic keeps its teams completely seperate. The DAoC and WAR teams are completely seperate entities, no personnel resources are shared, programmers don't go back and for, neither do artists or developers, etc. If Mythic is taking UO under its wing I see no reason this policy would change.

    They have stated this numerous times over the years. When they signed the Warhammer license and started ramping up the team, they brought in new folks for it, they didn't rape the DAoC team for bodies. Personally I see no reason UO will work any different if Mythic is indeed taking over UO, which in and of itself is still pure speculation, all it says is they'll be "working together". Hell, that could mean Mythic is giving the UO team some of their CS programs to use, or some ingame tools, or just providing leadership advice, etc. The point is, we don't know at this point and posts like yours stating things like "welp its been almost a month and Mark jacob is a sell out and now i can prove it" are in no way productive and should be locked until we know the full details of the plan.

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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    Originally posted by JtHM
    Nope, sorry, I have to call BS... You didn't post truth, you posted speculation, which really serves no purpose. And you leaped to unfounded conclussions based on the little snippet of a news blurb from the UO page. It simply states that Mythic will be helping with UO, nothing more. YOU seem to think that that translates to the WAR team getting split to work on UO. If you knew anything about Mythic's policy and history you'd know this to not be the case... Mythic keeps its teams completely seperate. The DAoC and WAR teams are completely seperate entities, no personnel resources are shared, programmers don't go back and for, neither do artists or developers, etc. If Mythic is taking UO under its wing I see no reason this policy would change.

    They have stated this numerous times over the years. When they signed the Warhammer license and started ramping up the team, they brought in new folks for it, they didn't rape the DAoC team for bodies. Personally I see no reason UO will work any different if Mythic is indeed taking over UO, which in and of itself is still pure speculation, all it says is they'll be "working together". Hell, that could mean Mythic is giving the UO team some of their CS programs to use, or some ingame tools, or just providing leadership advice, etc. The point is, we don't know at this point and posts like yours stating things like "welp its been almost a month and Mark jacob is a sell out and now i can prove it" are in no way productive and should be locked until we know the full details of the plan.


    This is the internet, and here there is no room for rationality and clear headedness.  Light the torches, boys, time to burn us a heretic!!*



    *the torches->heretic comment was sarcasm, for the reading impaired.
  • VideoXPGVideoXPG Member Posts: 268
    The Warhammer Alliance forums may take you seriously if you had a credible source to use rather than just your own speculation. I still am yet to see a link from you on this in this or your previous post you made here.

  • EQTarbosEQTarbos Member Posts: 130

    Ok check out UO here its in UO's news   so it is the truth read it


    ok you say they keep it seprate did mythic just higher a dev team for UO???
    Or where did they get the devs to help out UO????


    Dude Mythic is no more so their fore only people that could higher is EA.

    If you can apply to work for mythic and not ea then EA did not BUY THEM OUT




    sorry but you have to take away support or attention from something else to focus on another project




  • HeadMunchHeadMunch Member Posts: 11
    Might as well be that Mythic is helping EA improve their customer support, or supplies better planning tools, bug finding processes etc. Then the help would not mean that Mythic loose people (which I highly doubt taking the company in consideration), but more assisting in utilizing better quality tools.

    Not everyone helping another person have to devote extra resources to do so. Especially in software development its important to have good tools for planning in projects as complex as MMORPG's.




  • JtHMJtHM Member Posts: 122

    Originally posted by EQTarbos
    Ok check out UO here its in UO's news

    "Ok, check it out... Here it is on UO's News page:"

    And you still failed to include the actual item, so here, let me do it for you:

    Ultima Online and Mythic Teaming Up

    These are exciting days for MMORPG fans here at EA. With the acquisition of Mythic, the UO team will be working with the creative folks who brought us Dark Age of Camelot and are hard at work on the spectacular-looking Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning. I’m thrilled that the UO team and Mythic will work together to forge Britannia’s future.

    There is much to talk about with our new partners, and it will take some time to review and finalize our plans. Because we need to take that time, we are postponing the announcement that we were going to make this week. The in-game fiction cycle will take a break for a bit and will return soon.

    See you in Britannia,
    Darkscribe

    http://www.uo.com/
    I know quoting and linking can be hard sometimes, you're welcome.

    so it is the truth read it

    No one ever denied the actual News story was real...

    ok you say they keep it seprate did mythic just higher a dev team for UO???Or where did they get the devs to help out UO????

    "Ok, so you say they'll keep it seperate, did Mythic hire a new dev team for UO?" Where are they going to get the devs to help out UO?"

    Well... They hired a whole new dev team for Warhammer, minus the people who asked to move from DAoC to WAR. And those folks they hired replacements for, overall the number of people never changed. But if you had actually taken the time to read my post you'd note that I pointed out that the plan isn't finalized yet. Therefore no one has moved anywhere, and won't for some time yet. And like I also pointed out, no one knows yet what type of "help forging Britannia's future" Mythic is going to give, like myself and others said, it might just be leadership and better dev tools...

    Dude Mythic is no more so their fore only people that could higher is EA.If you can apply to work for mythic and not ea then EA did not BUY THEM OUT

    Dude, Mythic is no more! So therefore, the only people that can hire (be hired?) are EA. If you could apply to work for Mythic and not EA then EA did not buy them out." (This one was a doozy to translate.)

    No one ever denied that EA bought them...

    sorry but you have to take away support or attention from something else to focus on another project

    Depends on the type of help you're giving...

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  • dapsykotikdapsykotik Member Posts: 133
    Thank you JtHM for the translation and further explanations.
  • EQTarbosEQTarbos Member Posts: 130
    Sorry bad at english im from china and im starting to learn english





    anyone want to help??


  • WarfanWarfan Member Posts: 22
    EQTarbos = OWNED 

    Now playing Vanguard, but drooling for WAR

  • naldricnaldric Member UncommonPosts: 909
    Why dont they do this stuff and dont say anything instead of saying just enough for everybody to say "it's the end of the world" , I have to wonder what kind of PR are they. In my opinion, they said too much or too little!
  • BigxBigx Member Posts: 148

    Tell me if I am wrong.  I could be, but the way I understand it is. EA bought Mythic.  Mythic signed contract to do War.  War rights are owned by Game Workshop.  That means that if things go wrong GW can pull out and go else where with WAR.  I do not think EA wants to mess with there new source of cash flow.  EA didnt buy Mythic for daoc.  They bought mythic for WAR.  Mythic sold out to guarntee there monster game can get published and marketed.  MJ did say that there passion for WAR was shared by EA.  Only reason for the bo was that he wanted the game to be released.  Being a independent company with a giant mmo.  Any issue can make it delayed or even worse canceled. 

    Please tell me if I am wrong.  I am curious myself.

    Thanks

  • SchadeSchade Member Posts: 7

    Originally posted by Bigx

    Tell me if I am wrong...  War rights are owned by Game Workshop.  That means that if things go wrong GW can pull out and go else where with WAR.  
    Please tell me if I am wrong.  I am curious myself.
    Thanks

    GW is not the sole owner of the WAR rights. From day one this has been presented as a partnership between Mythic and GW.

    What this means is...

    EAMythic now owns a signed a contract to partner with GW in which they provide the programming, server hosting, and tactical implimentation of the game. GW signed on to provide the IP which equates to oversight of the storyline, look, and feel of the game. If EAMythic is meeting the minimum level required by their commitments in the contract then GW cannot pull out without being sued for breach of contract.

    EA bought Mythic to get the contract to use the GW IP, they could not have cared any less about Mythic or it's employees. It is just business kids.

  • BoozekBoozek Member Posts: 110

    Originally posted by Schade

    Originally posted by Bigx

    Tell me if I am wrong...  War rights are owned by Game Workshop.  That means that if things go wrong GW can pull out and go else where with WAR.  
    Please tell me if I am wrong.  I am curious myself.
    Thanks

    GW is not the sole owner of the WAR rights. From day one this has been presented as a partnership between Mythic and GW.

    What this means is...

    EAMythic now owns a signed a contract to partner with GW in which they provide the programming, server hosting, and tactical implimentation of the game. GW signed on to provide the IP which equates to oversight of the storyline, look, and feel of the game. If EAMythic is meeting the minimum level required by their commitments in the contract then GW cannot pull out without being sued for breach of contract.

    EA bought Mythic to get the contract to use the GW IP, they could not have cared any less about Mythic or it's employees. It is just business kids.

    Actually you had the business part right, but I doubt they wanted the liscense as much as they wanted the development teams that have many years of experience. The liscence and a viable WoW competitor is gravy. EA is a huge company with many projects continually on the go. It also has a history of absorbing development companies for their talent then redistributing them to other projects.

    This isnt an EA bad comment. I'm not overly thrilled with the new EA involvement but I'm still 100% behind WAR. I'm sure the core development team will stay together until WAR is on it's feet, but remember it's EAMythic now..once WAR is up and running EA will basically decide what their next project will be, and whom will remain to continue with the job of updating and maintaining WAR.

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    I posted earlier about this in the DaoC forum, I should have known that this is where the action is at ;)

    Well, EA has shown before that they have the sense not to intrude to much on newly acquired developers, Mythic has a great track record and alot of experience. Also the CEO of Mythic would never approve of the sale if he didn't have great faith in EA, he has shown alot of integrity over the years. Also... Ah screw it...

    IF IT'S ON THE INTERNET THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!

  • EliasThorneEliasThorne Member UncommonPosts: 338
    Post, while sounding like toast is spelt POST, not a great start...

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  • dapsykotikdapsykotik Member Posts: 133
    If you read the posts, you'd know that he's from china and he's just learning english, give him a break.
  • apocalanceapocalance Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    JtHM, loved the translation. When you say, it's not so bad. Thanks. :)

    so...

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