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110k playing? Every server has like 10 people!
Baseline
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So we're hearing this number of 110k active subscribers. WHERE?
I mean, I'm not trying to flame, I'm asking a serious question. What server is bustling with all of these players? Because Eclipse sure wasn't a few months ago. It was dead as rocks.
Where are these populated servers? Populated as in having an active economy, malls, lots of crafters, active guilds, daily PvP on ground and in space. Does this actually still exist in this game? You mean there's servers where you can go to theed and it's not just NPC's? There's actually more than ten players?!
I mean, when I quit, 5 people in front of Theed meant it was the weekend.
I bet to buy anything on most of these servers costs about 10 mil now. Want a speeder? Oh that's 100k. Want a suit of armor? oh that's 5 mil.
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SWG does not have 110K people logging in. 10-15K is more like it. All it is .. is a play on numbers. There is probably like only 50K SWG accounts left and the closer we get to the 1 year mark for the NGE the fewer and fewer there will be.
What ever numbers they are coming up with involve the All Access Pass. They count everyone even if they don't play SWG.
$OE has always played with the numbers to make it look better. I am sure you have heard this before.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
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cant get a link to work ffs.
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And if it's 110k (I don't believe either), still fail. This game is runned by 2 different companies. LA and SOE. They both get money so it means 55k per company (if the deal is %50). With 55k customers? I bet Knight Online has more paying customers. Much more than that.
malls - why? It's all loot or loot vendors
crafters - loot
active guilds - there's those still around
daily pvp - go to restuss
space - um, apart from starsider, space has always been dead
theed - everyone is so sick of theed they get green just thinking about it
Go to Restuss. This is where everyone is. Or running Restuss quests, which means various spawns in naboo space, kessel mining, and ground spawns at imp hyperdrive facility and others.
Seriously, this comes over too often to still be bearable. MMOs have migration patters. This happens in every game. While population has dropped, simply going to a place and saying its empty, therefore concluding there's 10k people left is a joke.
Right now, everyone is in Restuss or Restuss related places.
If you do go there, and see that place is empty, then the server is dead.
malls - why? It's all loot or loot vendors
crafters - loot
active guilds - there's those still around
daily pvp - go to restuss
space - um, apart from starsider, space has always been dead
theed - everyone is so sick of theed they get green just thinking about it
Go to Restuss. This is where everyone is. Or running Restuss quests, which means various spawns in naboo space, kessel mining, and ground spawns at imp hyperdrive facility and others.
Seriously, this comes over too often to still be bearable. MMOs have migration patters. This happens in every game. While population has dropped, simply going to a place and saying its empty, therefore concluding there's 10k people left is a joke.
Right now, everyone is in Restuss or Restuss related places.
If you do go there, and see that place is empty, then the server is dead.
Kauri is very empty in Restuss. Been there several times at several times of the day. Maybe a dozen people at most.
There was an event two days ago where Dark Jedi NPCs attacked Theed. Maybe 30 people showed up for that.
Kai
110k playing hmmmmm...how many are statiopass holders who don't even play SWG?
Back in the golden days of pre-cu numbers there were what 300k roughly for arguements sake.
Now this number would have involved quite a few multiple account holders who could log 2 or more accounts at the same time but who's abilities were restricted to buffing/dancing/grinding macros, by this I mean the second accounts weren't generally socializing/dueling/pvp'ing etc etc.
So if we take a look at the SW galaxy purely from the perspective of wandering around and noticing the amount of active players that we sawplus taking into consideration that only a percentage of this number would be actively playing at any given time :
Dathomir Outpost, Dantooine mining outpost, Fort Tusken, Anchorhead, Bestine, Eisley, Theed, Geo Caves, Krayt Graveyard, Player Cities on all inhabitable planets, DWB, Corvette, Squill Caves, Nightsister Caves and the mother of all player gatherings going on at Coronet. Not to mention all the travellers you met at all the spaceports and all those who were out grinding in solo/non-solo groups. We are talking a shitload of active players and I didn't even include multiple account holders at the time.
There are no figures so we can only speculate, but I can at least tell when servers are dead and it's no fun.
As the old Theed thing... never happend on Infinity. Theed was always pretty dead. Alot of players from other servers often wondered why the instant shuttle at Theed never attracted the players pre JTL.
And there were no buff lines on Infinity. You just banktip the doc and he/she worked through the email list while you chatted away or maybe went AFK for some reason.
"There are two kinds of spurs, my friend. Those that come in by the door; those that come in by the window"
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When Sony and Lucas set out to create the NGE, we said, How can we do this and make it similar to WoW? We wanted it to be all about Iconic characters like Luke, combat and locking our players into a class. So we created a system that would restrict players and make all professions the same and there would be minimal gameplay around making that change. We definitely borrowed a lot of ideas from WoW that worked and figured out how to make them fit for SWG Julio Torres (2005)
Bria hardly ever worked like that, you didnt keep your place in the queue, get to the back and queue again.
The banktip method worked brilliantly I agree but some servers never got their head round it. My doc on Bria tried this method but it just caused too much confusion and buff-queue fights. After all buff-queue fights were pretty funny so I stopped bothering
Bria hardly ever worked like that, you didnt keep your place in the queue, get to the back and queue again.
The banktip method worked brilliantly I agree but some servers never got their head round it. My doc on Bria tried this method but it just caused too much confusion and buff-queue fights. After all buff-queue fights were pretty funny so I stopped bothering
Each server did things a little different. Some would use the banktip method. Others made you get into a physical line. One server the docs went where the players were. You would message a doc for a buff and they would travel to you. There were never lines or banktips there.
My main's server, as a doc, I would just get a notepad and write down the names as they requested a buff. Time consuming but that was how it was done.
Kai
Bria hardly ever worked like that, you didnt keep your place in the queue, get to the back and queue again.
The banktip method worked brilliantly I agree but some servers never got their head round it. My doc on Bria tried this method but it just caused too much confusion and buff-queue fights. After all buff-queue fights were pretty funny so I stopped bothering
Ahh, I see. The banktip method seems a logical approach as your buff queue is effectively mailed to you. The only real problem was that you never knew where you were in the queue. If there were alot of people sat around the doc you just accepted you were gonna be there a while :P
Ahh, the good old days!!!
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When Sony and Lucas set out to create the NGE, we said, How can we do this and make it similar to WoW? We wanted it to be all about Iconic characters like Luke, combat and locking our players into a class. So we created a system that would restrict players and make all professions the same and there would be minimal gameplay around making that change. We definitely borrowed a lot of ideas from WoW that worked and figured out how to make them fit for SWG Julio Torres (2005)
Alright then. So Bria lost it's crown and now Starsider is the most active server? You'd think with even a few active servers left, people would've put out movies in the past month or two of gameplay. Like frapsed stuff made by actual players.
For bloodfin, all docs went by this simple way: you got in line. Some docs charged extra for faster buffs(ie. pay me 50k instead of 10k and you get to go to the front of the line)
You could always judge how long it would take by the length of the line, and some docs you just knew could pound out a line fast and would never go afk without warning like(No buffs after XXX, he gets last buff, move to another line)
But 170k is still possible numbers for SWG, the big thing though is that PCU is down, Peak Concurrent Users, people aren't playing as much or as often. So in one way SWG is still a success if it can keep people paying without playing.
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Dunno how many actually cancelled but I can show you how many times the word cancel has been said in the forums lol.
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Bria hardly ever worked like that, you didnt keep your place in the queue, get to the back and queue again.
The banktip method worked brilliantly I agree but some servers never got their head round it. My doc on Bria tried this method but it just caused too much confusion and buff-queue fights. After all buff-queue fights were pretty funny so I stopped bothering
Each server did things a little different. Some would use the banktip method. Others made you get into a physical line. One server the docs went where the players were. You would message a doc for a buff and they would travel to you. There were never lines or banktips there.
My main's server, as a doc, I would just get a notepad and write down the names as they requested a buff. Time consuming but that was how it was done.
Kai
Wanderhome had the line. You stood in line, slowly inching forward the doctor. From what I could tell, no one ever cut in line or anything like that.
Great ways to make some money for my alt when I saw lines at Coronet were very long, bring her in and charge a bit more than regular. Also used that food/drink to buff a couple of people really fast.