Petition to brink back Asheron's Call 2

Odysses · July 2006

Here is a online petition that was formed a little bit ago to bring back AC2 on a classic server of some sort. Considering all the bad MMORPG's on the market now, AC2 does not seem like nearly the bad game it was labeled after the terrible launch and lack of support from Microsoft. Feel free to post your opinions on the game good or bad but try to stay constructive. Sign the petition if you think the game is worth putting up a relaunched server.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/AC2TurbineRevive/

RemyVorender · July 2006

/signed

I always had a soft spot for AC2. I really loved the atomsphere of the game. The quest storyline was great as well. The game just "felt" good.

Elnator · July 2006

Let's see:
AC2 never had more than 50k subs, when closed it had under 15k subs.

DDO, arguably one of the poorest MMO's to release recently, has over 90k subs, and has managed to hold that number for 3 months now.

Explain to me why turbine would want to revive a MMO that 1) Never made a profit and 2) only wound up losing money. They sank millions into AC2... it never recouped it's development costs and, in fact, operated in the red for it's entire existance.

I'm not saying it was a bad MMO... it was 'ok'. It just evidently didn't have enough appeal to support itself. Why would they fund a server to host it when it doesn't make money?

Gameloading · July 2006

this petition is pretty pointless. Turbine won't revive Asherons call 2, there are just not enough players to support the game.even a classic server still requires a lot of server costs and staff. its just not going to happen.

also, this was already posted a couple of weeks ago.

and heck, look at how many signatures the thing has. about 400. one server already requires a couple of thousand players, and signing a petition to bring it back is one thing, actually playing is something else.

Scaris · July 2006

Everyone had their chance to keep AC 2 going when it was still out by subscribing too it. This really is pointless, if there was no interest then there certainly isn't going to be any now. Let alone online petitions are a joke in comparison to their real conterpart.

Turbine is having enough problems and you want them to bring on more burden by reviving a dead product?

Odysses · July 2006

I posted it in the general forums just so it would get more exposure. The one posted in the AC forums will not be seen by alot of former players. No one expects Turbine to relaunch the game as they have much bigger projects on the horizon. This will just gauge how many former players or new people would be interested if a classic server were ever put in place. This could also be part of package plan included with AC, DDO or LoTRO as a way to create more value.

nubbins · July 2006

AC2 as far as im concerned was a good game

it had its moments both good and bad , and if you review the petition ive already signed it

the chief reason AC2 failed to live up to Turbines financial expectations is due to the fact the game itself failed to live up to the original AC players expectations

the players of AC wanted AC2 to be well AC2 , AC just with a graphics upgrade instead they got something totally different

and alienated a larger portion of the players because of it and thus the seeds were sown for the downfall of AC2

perhaps after the miserable failure DDO turned out to be and the failure LOTR will soon prove to be

they will cast about to build on the AC franchise and release AC3 and maybe just maybe get it right this time.

Elnator · July 2006

Originally posted by nubbins
AC2 as far as im concerned was a good game

it had its moments both good and bad , and if you review the petition ive already signed it

the chief reason AC2 failed to live up to Turbines financial expectations is due to the fact the game itself failed to live up to the original AC players expectations

the players of AC wanted AC2 to be well AC2 , AC just with a graphics upgrade instead they got something totally different

and alienated a larger portion of the players because of it and thus the seeds were sown for the downfall of AC2

perhaps after the miserable failure DDO turned out to be and the failure LOTR will soon prove to be

they will cast about to build on the AC franchise and release AC3 and maybe just maybe get it right this time.

Actually.... if SirBruce's figures are correct.... and I have no reason to think they aren't... with 90k subs DDO, while not nearly as successful as I'm sure Turbine wanted it to be, is definitely a successful MMO... it's making a profit... which is more than can be said of AC2.... whether it can sustain it's current subscriber numbers, however, is another question altogether.

If DDO cannot and if LOTRO flops as well.... then Turbine won't need to worry about AC1, 2 or 3... they'll be filing bankruptcy.

Scaris · July 2006

Originally posted by Odysses
I posted it in the general forums just so it would get more exposure. The one posted in the AC forums will not be seen by alot of former players. No one expects Turbine to relaunch the game as they have much bigger projects on the horizon. This will just gauge how many former players or new people would be interested if a classic server were ever put in place. This could also be part of package plan included with AC, DDO or LoTRO as a way to create more value.

And the level of interest wasn't already defined during and before the closure if the game?

Scaris · July 2006

Originally posted by Elnator

Actually.... if SirBruce's figures are correct.... and I have no reason to think they aren't... with 90k subs DDO, while not nearly as successful as I'm sure Turbine wanted it to be, is definitely a successful MMO... it's making a profit... which is more than can be said of AC2.... whether it can sustain it's current subscriber numbers, however, is another question altogether.If DDO cannot and if LOTRO flops as well.... then Turbine won't need to worry about AC1, 2 or 3... they'll be filing bankruptcy.

If LoTR flops then I would hope companies would have enough sense to stop having Turbine design their MMO's.

Elnator · July 2006

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by Elnator

Actually.... if SirBruce's figures are correct.... and I have no reason to think they aren't... with 90k subs DDO, while not nearly as successful as I'm sure Turbine wanted it to be, is definitely a successful MMO... it's making a profit... which is more than can be said of AC2.... whether it can sustain it's current subscriber numbers, however, is another question altogether.If DDO cannot and if LOTRO flops as well.... then Turbine won't need to worry about AC1, 2 or 3... they'll be filing bankruptcy.

If LoTR flops then I would hope companies would have enough sense to stop having Turbine design their MMO's.

Both DDO and LOTRO baffled me. I still don't understand how turbine got those contracts. It's not like they are a successful MMORPG company.... hell... even AC, their flagship, barely has any subscribers any longer. Last I Checked it was below 20k as well.

Scaris · July 2006

Same, I never understood how they proclaimed themselves an industry leader either. They were 3rd out of 3 even in they hey-day.

Odysses · July 2006

Well a few people speculated that Turbine took the AC2 contract from Microsoft for the proof of concept to land those deals. AC2 was mostly M$ designed and developed by Turbine. Once the engine was developed and released, they could shop it around and say this is what we can design. At the time there weren't any 2nd gen MMORPG's out, so Turbine did have a leg up on the competition in that respect.

AC1 was very highly rated by all gaming sites and hardcore players even though it was in 3rd place in sales. Thats probably why AC2 was rushed out so fast, because they thought that a more accesable game with pretty graphics would take alot of EQ subs.

BesCirga · July 2006

/signed

Scaris · July 2006

Originally posted by Odysses
Well a few people speculated that Turbine took the AC2 contract from Microsoft for the proof of concept to land those deals. AC2 was mostly M$ designed and developed by Turbine. Once the engine was developed and released, they could shop it around and say this is what we can design. At the time there weren't any 2nd gen MMORPG's out, so Turbine did have a leg up on the competition in that respect.
AC1 was very highly rated by all gaming sites and hardcore players even though it was in 3rd place in sales. Thats probably why AC2 was rushed out so fast, because they thought that a more accesable game with pretty graphics would take alot of EQ subs.

The whole "generation" thing is marketting terms and nothing more. There was nothing second generation about AC 2 that would seperate it out from EQ 1 or AC 2 other then visual quality.

Sorry man, I just don't see your points. AC 2 was an ok game with nothing exciting to it. Turbine thought they could get away with making an EQ clone with zero content and people would pay for it. Then they backed up that bad idea with a horrid launch.

AC 1 was a fair game as well, I played it for quite some time but it never took over the market either. And ofcourse it was rated well, it was a good quality product, it just didn't have the fun factor that EQ 1 and UO did. There is nothing wrong with it nor should it be discounted as some second rate MMO. Had it been in a sea of MMO's like today where you have everything from Dark and Light to EQ 2 and WoW it would have had alot better chance to shine but it did not.

nomadian · July 2006

AC2 had the potential to be a very good game, it just lacked vision. If someone like SoE was behind it, I'm sure it could have quite a number of subscribers today.

Decid · July 2006

I feel they need to leave AC2 in the graveyard. But thats my 2 cents on it.

rsaint · July 2006

most ppl remember AC2 like it was in the first months of launch, but in the end AC2 was a very different game and much better, they released an expansion that was one of the best expansions I ever seen and only didnt hold much interest because of the bad word of mouth, and lack of proper adverstising from Turbine, btw there was like 6 devs working in that expansion, imagine what a large team could add, that game diserves a 2nd chance because it was unique in many ways and fun.

and yes I'm sick of the elf, orc, troll typical fantasy mmorpg setting, those that support it are killing the gender, games like AC2 that are different from WoW seem they are doomed to die

Aquakitty · July 2006

/signed!

I never understood why Ac2 got such a bad rap, I had a great time playing it, it was a good game.

I wasn't surprised when they shut down however, due to the insanely low pop.

I know! Release the code! let us run private servers! mUhahHAHAhHAhhaha

Devalon · July 2006

Im confuse why would someone want AC2 back? What made it diffrent from other games? I know the class balance was horrible and lack content that games have today.

So why should it be brought back?

ianubisi · July 2006

Gamers had their opportunity to "petition" to keep AC2 alive by purchasing the game and retaining subscribership.

The opportunity has come and gone folks.

Odysses · July 2006

This almost has drifted into the same category as why AC2 failed. This linked thread is the better place for that discussion since there was already a number of good points made.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/83177

This thread should stay more on whether or not it should come back or not, or a possible classic server since the other thread covers the why's and how's of AC2's demise.

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