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World of Warcraft or PSP Daxter?!?!?!?!

gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
I think these screenshots from Daxter on PSP make a strong case that the graphics in WoW are low scale.
I mean if you take Daxter out of the screenshot, what game would you swear they are.  And these are running on a PSP!!!








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  • porgieporgie Member Posts: 1,516
    Okay, seriously.   When I first clicked to read this all I could see was the top 3/4 of the first screen shot and I thought someone was posting their in game WoW screenshots for some reason.   
    I had to look twice.  They do look incredibly similar.  Even the artistic style.  And that is running on a PSP???

    What are the specs on a PSP? 

    Oh, and are those "hand drawn" graphics on Daxter?  LOL. 


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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    WoW always kepts its graphic level low to keep the requirements low. its a well known fact.

  • HelldogHelldog Member Posts: 169


    Originally posted by Gameloading
    WoW always kepts its graphic level low to keep the requirements low. its a well known fact.



    aye, for me graphics are definitely not an issue in WoW



    the things that put me off are the endgame: lack real world pvp and a real goal. (except for farming better and better equipment and not being able to use it except for PvP wich grants u nothing extra)


    The screenshots are very similar style but to say they are the same quality would be absurd... its not because the geometry of the items in the world is pretty simple like in that game that the quality is as bad.
    The textures look way cleaner than on the PSP and theres way more items visible in one screen than in that game (like flying over the towns having all of it show up without lag)
  • kimmarkimmar Member Posts: 446


    Originally posted by Gameloading
    WoW always kepts its graphic level low to keep the requirements low. its a well known fact.



    Apparently, they kept them very low. 

    Everything did always look rather boxy and blurry in World of Warcraft to me.  Detail was missing everywhere.  The second you got up close to something you realized it was just a blurred graphic.  I'm glad I moved on to some more mature higher end graphics. 

    I think I understand why so many young people play it.  They are on hand me down PC's.  Their PC's won't run anything else.


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    It all seems so stupid
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  • kimmarkimmar Member Posts: 446


    Originally posted by Helldog

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    WoW always kepts its graphic level low to keep the requirements low. its a well known fact.


    aye, for me graphics are definitely not an issue in WoW



    the things that put me off are the endgame: lack real world pvp and a real goal. (except for farming better and better equipment and not being able to use it except for PvP wich grants u nothing extra)


    The screenshots are very similar style but to say they are the same quality would be absurd... its not because the geometry of the items in the world is pretty simple like in that game that the quality is as bad.
    The textures look way cleaner than on the PSP and theres way more items visible in one screen than in that game (like flying over the towns having all of it show up without lag)


    Oh yeah, I see exactly what you're talking about.  LOL.

    Look at those clean textures on that dirt.
    And if that leg weren't attached to that mans body and someone showed it to me seperate, I would have no idea what it was.  Ever.  And the textures on that shield.  Extraordinary!!
    Actually, I think that he stole that sheild from the end of my street.  Our stop sign is missing.  THIEF!!!!




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    It all seems so stupid
    It makes me want to give up
    But why should I give up
    When it all seems so stupid

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    You do realise you are looking at a screenshot that was taken when the game was still in DEVELOPMENT?

    also, you can put the game on high resolution and low resolution. that picture was obviously taken at low resolution.



  • porgieporgie Member Posts: 1,516


    Originally posted by kimmar

    Originally posted by Helldog

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    WoW always kepts its graphic level low to keep the requirements low. its a well known fact.


    aye, for me graphics are definitely not an issue in WoW



    the things that put me off are the endgame: lack real world pvp and a real goal. (except for farming better and better equipment and not being able to use it except for PvP wich grants u nothing extra)


    The screenshots are very similar style but to say they are the same quality would be absurd... its not because the geometry of the items in the world is pretty simple like in that game that the quality is as bad.
    The textures look way cleaner than on the PSP and theres way more items visible in one screen than in that game (like flying over the towns having all of it show up without lag)


    Oh yeah, I see exactly what you're talking about.  LOL.

    Look at those clean textures on that dirt.
    And if that leg weren't attached to that mans body and someone showed it to me seperate, I would have no idea what it was.  Ever.  And the textures on that shield.  Extraordinary!!
    Actually, I think that he stole that sheild from the end of my street.  Our stop sign is missing.  THIEF!!!!



    No, see if it were a PSP game, they would have been forced to put 8 sides like your Stop sign.  But since it's a PC game they went all out and put 10 sides on the shield.  They didn't want to skimp. 

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    this looks a lot better (the character is ugly because she is wearing low level equipment)



  • porgieporgie Member Posts: 1,516


    Originally posted by Gameloading
    You do realise you are looking at a screenshot that was taken when the game was still in DEVELOPMENT?



    Yah, they look a whole lot better now.  Light years better.  Hahaha.  His shield has 11 edges on it now? 

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  • porgieporgie Member Posts: 1,516


    Originally posted by Gameloading

    this looks a lot better (the character is ugly because she is wearing low level equipment)





    I'm being completely honest when I say this.  I promise.  But those graphics never looked good to me.  I played WoW and tried to see what everyone was raving about.  But I don't see it.  Look at her pants.  The fur is totally part of the leather part.  It's not seperate at all.  And look at the front of her leg.  It's like her leg is pleated.  And that sword is as simple as some of the swords in EQ1!!!  As well as the textures on the buildings.  And when I played I would run up to the textures on the buildings, and they were nothing but a blurred image.  Every texture was a blurred image really.  It didn't impress me one bit.  The magic kind of goes away when you get close and see a wall is nothing but a bunch of blurred stuff.

    I hate to start in on another WoW graphics suck topic, but that's just the way I feel.  I feel really let down for playing that game.  I have never not wanted to go back to a game until now.  I still go back and play EQ1 at times.  But I will never go back to WoW, just because of the bad feeling I got from that game in soooo many ways.

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  • vendrisvendris Member Posts: 246
    You know.. normally I'd be the first person to show up with my baseball
    bat for a good WoW bashing, but I think this thread is pretty
    ridiculous. It is true that WoW does not have a very advanced graphics
    engine in many respects compared to other modern games. However, the
    game plays very well, even on relatively low end hardware, and, I never
    thought it looked that bad at 1680x1050 with everything set to max on
    my system when I was playing it.


    I've played both WoW and EQ2 quite a bit.  EQ2's engine is inarguably
    more "advanced" than WoW's engine is.  You know what?  WoW still looks
    better than EQ2 to me, and it sure *felt* a lot better.  WoW always
    felt instantly responsive, with a wonderfully high, smooth, and rock
    solid framerate.  I think the feel and responsiveness of a game are a
    lot more important than how many polygons it throws at you.


    There's a lot of things I'll happily bash WoW for, but it's graphics
    engine isn't one of them.  It's a nice compromise between looking good
    and being responsive.

  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173


    Originally posted by vendris
    You know.. normally I'd be the first person to show up with my baseball
    bat for a good WoW bashing, but I think this thread is pretty
    ridiculous. It is true that WoW does not have a very advanced graphics
    engine in many respects compared to other modern games. However, the
    game plays very well, even on relatively low end hardware, and, I never
    thought it looked that bad at 1680x1050 with everything set to max on
    my system when I was playing it.


    I've played both WoW and EQ2 quite a bit.  EQ2's engine is inarguably
    more "advanced" than WoW's engine is.  You know what?  WoW still looks
    better than EQ2 to me, and it sure *felt* a lot better.  WoW always
    felt instantly responsive, with a wonderfully high, smooth, and rock
    solid framerate.  I think the feel and responsiveness of a game are a
    lot more important than how many polygons it throws at you.


    There's a lot of things I'll happily bash WoW for, but it's graphics
    engine isn't one of them.  It's a nice compromise between looking good
    and being responsive.



    Try upgrading your computer or getting a new one altogether.  EQ2 was made for high end computers.  WoW was made for old computers. 

    EQ2 runs fine on mine.  Very responsive.  Even with a lot of folks around.   Click my XFire thing below and you can see the specs on my PC.

    If you'd like I can post a few movies of it running to show you.  I don't mind.  It runs great.  Just as well and responsive as World of Warcraft.  I promise.
  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    All of you are not seeing the real issue here. WoW is sucessful and a good game, and the PC owns life. While the PSP is a piece of shit. Id rather give my money to the IRS than buy a PSP.


    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173


    Originally posted by Spathotan

    All of you are not seeing the real issue here. WoW is sucessful and a good game, and the PC owns life. While the PSP is a piece of shit. Id rather give my money to the IRS than buy a PSP.




    I think the OP's point (if I may be so bold as to speak for him/her) was that the Daxter PSP graphics look incredibly similar to World of Warcrafts.  Which would lead on to think that World of Warcraft graphics are a bit on the low end of what's out there today.  I mean when you look at those PSP graphics and they look only a little less dramatic than WoW that tells you something. 
  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by reavo

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    All of you are not seeing the real issue here. WoW is sucessful and a good game, and the PC owns life. While the PSP is a piece of shit. Id rather give my money to the IRS than buy a PSP.



    I think the OP's point (if I may be so bold as to speak for him/her) was that the Daxter PSP graphics look incredibly similar to World of Warcrafts.  Which would lead on to think that World of Warcraft graphics are a bit on the low end of what's out there today.  I mean when you look at those PSP graphics and they look only a little less dramatic than WoW that tells you something. 


    Well yea the PSP has the same graphics as the PS2, just a little weaker. Blizzard decided to keep the same art style with WoW as they did with WC3, not only so it would run smoothly on basically any pc, but to just keep the style going to make the games feel more connected instead of them not appearing to be related. Good example of this is GTA 1&2, then the jump to 3.

    WoW has been out for going on two years. This argument would have had merit two years ago.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173


    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by reavo

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    All of you are not seeing the real issue here. WoW is sucessful and a good game, and the PC owns life. While the PSP is a piece of shit. Id rather give my money to the IRS than buy a PSP.



    I think the OP's point (if I may be so bold as to speak for him/her) was that the Daxter PSP graphics look incredibly similar to World of Warcrafts.  Which would lead on to think that World of Warcraft graphics are a bit on the low end of what's out there today.  I mean when you look at those PSP graphics and they look only a little less dramatic than WoW that tells you something. 


    Well yea the PSP has the same graphics as the PS2, just a little weaker. Blizzard decided to keep the same art style with WoW as they did with WC3, not only so it would run smoothly on basically any pc, but to just keep the style going to make the games feel more connected instead of them not appearing to be related. Good example of this is GTA 1&2, then the jump to 3.

    WoW has been out for going on two years. This argument would have had merit two years ago.


    Well, some of us spent a lot of money on some dang nice computers.

    I want something more than WoW graphics to play on it.  That game runs on my nephews computer that I gave to him.  It's one I had from 5 years ago! 

    I like to see my system sweat.  I'm going to build another complete new one when Vista comes out.  And I am going to be looking for games to make that one sweat too.  I have a feeling there are some game developers out there that are going to accomodate.  Some more cutting edge junkies like me will be there to buy. 
  • vendrisvendris Member Posts: 246


    Originally posted by reavo

    Try upgrading your computer or getting a new one altogether.  EQ2 was made for high end computers.  WoW was made for old computers. 



    I have an amd64 4000+, with 2 gigs of ram, and an nvidia 7600gt with 256 megs of ram.  My system runs the half life 2 lost coast level with HDR lighting and all graphics options cranked perfectly fluid.  I also play Oblivion at 1680x1050 with most settings at full detail. I run FEAR with no problems at all. The problem isn't my computer. 

    The problem is that EQ2s graphics engine is horribly inefficient and poorly coded, and frankly it's pathetic that EQ2 requires systems more powerful than anything available at the time it was released in order to produce graphics that are flat out ugly compared any game using a *good* graphics engine that's out.

    EQ2 has many good points to the game.  The graphics engine is not one of them.
  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173


    Originally posted by vendris

    Originally posted by reavo

    Try upgrading your computer or getting a new one altogether.  EQ2 was made for high end computers.  WoW was made for old computers. 


    I have an amd64 4000+, with 2 gigs of ram, and an nvidia 7600gt with 256 megs of ram.  My system runs the half life 2 lost coast level with HDR lighting and all graphics options cranked perfectly fluid.  I also play Oblivion at 1680x1050 with most settings at full detail. I run FEAR with no problems at all. The problem isn't my computer. 

    The problem is that EQ2s graphics engine is horribly inefficient and poorly coded, and frankly it's pathetic that EQ2 requires systems more powerful than anything available at the time it was released in order to produce graphics that are flat out ugly compared any game using a *good* graphics engine that's out.

    EQ2 has many good points to the game.  The graphics engine is not one of them.


    Hmmm...  Maybe you've got some settings wrong on your motherboard then, because I'm telling you it runs smooth on my system.  I promise.  Like I said, if you'd like I don't mind posting some movies to show you it running on my rig.  It's not a problem, if you think I'm lying.

    Check your motherboard settings and make sure they're correct.  Because you have a better graphics card than I do and a better processor than I do too.  You should be running smooth.  Is your AMD 64 the FX chip or not?  That can make a difference. 


  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    EQ2 was designed for the future and graphics longitivity, the devs said it a thousand times during beta. No home computer today can run EQ2 with every single option turned on and at max, and have max FPS. Its impossible.


    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444


    Originally posted by vendris

    Originally posted by reavo

    Try upgrading your computer or getting a new one altogether.  EQ2 was made for high end computers.  WoW was made for old computers. 


    I have an amd64 4000+, with 2 gigs of ram, and an nvidia 7600gt with 256 megs of ram.  My system runs the half life 2 lost coast level with HDR lighting and all graphics options cranked perfectly fluid.  I also play Oblivion at 1680x1050 with most settings at full detail. I run FEAR with no problems at all. The problem isn't my computer. 

    The problem is that EQ2s graphics engine is horribly inefficient and poorly coded, and frankly it's pathetic that EQ2 requires systems more powerful than anything available at the time it was released in order to produce graphics that are flat out ugly compared any game using a *good* graphics engine that's out.

    EQ2 has many good points to the game.  The graphics engine is not one of them.



    Oh burn.  Yes I look at the two post beneath this one and I see they don't understand what you meant.

    In War - Victory.
    In Peace - Vigilance.
    In Death - Sacrifice.

  • munkey102munkey102 Member Posts: 19
    wow
  • vendrisvendris Member Posts: 246
    I just said in my post that I run Half Life 2, FEAR, and Oblivion perfectly fine and smooth on my system.  Is there some special "Everquest 2" setting on my motherboard that only effects that game, while allowing *Oblivion* to run perfectly fine?  And to the person who posted babbling about how EQ2's engine was just so ahead of it's time no modern system can run it... Elder Scrolls: Oblivion has graphics that blow EQ2 completely out of the water, and an engine that uses far more modern graphics card features than EQ2, and it runs great.

    This isn't about EQ2 being advanced and it's not about my computer mysteriously only running EQ2 poorly while it runs every other game I own perfectly fine.  The fact of the matter is, EQ2 has a badly coded graphics engine that is inefficient and requires way too much hardware to produce sub par visuals.




    Hmm...  Maybe you've got some settings wrong on your motherboard then, because I'm telling you it runs smooth on my system.  I promise.  Like I said, if you'd like I don't mind posting some movies to show you it running on my rig.  It's not a problem, if you think I'm lying.

    Check your motherboard settings and make sure they're correct.  Because you have a better graphics card than I do and a better processor than I do too.  You should be running smooth.  Is your AMD 64 the FX chip or not?  That can make a difference. 





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