Its pretty damn easy to get around things like wall hackers. Aside from planetside there arent really any mmos that have been persistently hacks. A simple hash check on every graphical file fixes it (and afaik thats all pb does).
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Unlike a regular FPS game, this is a MMO with constant Packet Verifications occuring. I'd be shocked if they aren't going to add aseveral monitors, as well as a reporting function with CSR's.
But yeah, it concerns me as well. Not so much for the history of hacks, but that loosers that hack would rather spend time lookin/making hacks then gaining skills...
If you're really concerned about hackers, play the 360 version...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
360 players will be on the same server as PC players.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "Unlike a regular FPS game, this is a MMO with constant Packet Verifications occuring".
One of the more sneaky cheats found on the unreal engine is to vary your connection speed. When a packet is not verifyied (packetloss) the server does not print it. This occours more at low bandwidth.
At any snapshot moment in time, a verifyied object is present in the serverstate, and an unverifyied one is not.
Thus if I set my connection for low bandwidth until I fire, a significant number of your bullets will pass straight through me without collision. (imagine if I lose 1 frame in 8, while not detectable to the human eye, 1/8th of all your shots will miss.
When I fire it ups the bandwidth and my bullet will be drawn correctly each frame and be less likely to lag through you and miss.
Live admin is good, but if they don't have the tools, reporting anything to them is pointless. They need Anti cheat to catch people after you have alerted them.
Hopefully they take a reactive approach to hackers ala dare I say WOW that has done a very good job agianst hackers/cheaters/exlpoiters... This would be better then a reactive approach that we see in SOE's MMOFPS Planetside which has really done nothing about hackers for 3 years now.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Huxley will be account based. Accounts will need a credit card for signup/monthly pay. Huxley makers also make the EULA and if they break it they can have there account suspended or possibly even sued. Everyone would agree to the EULA everytime they login probably or install a patch. If they want they could probably sue if they catch a wallhacker or anything similiar. They have your address and information.
SEriously one think to say : why in every forum we hear someone tell about suject like : HAKING. Seriously thas stupide to talk about hacking in game because everyone know, those who want to hack or Cheat, or do bug abuse are the person who always look every opportunity to be the better in the easiest way.( and those people are the first who begin to speak about that subject, and that only for asking to other what they think about that. <- for me that prety stupid to be like that.
Well that will be like evey programme online, that will come with anti cheat, patch etc. than stop saying anything we know already about some nooob who doing hacking for getting everything easy.
Originally posted by dagz Huxley will be account based. Accounts will need a credit card for signup/monthly pay. Huxley makers also make the EULA and if they break it they can have there account suspended or possibly even sued. Everyone would agree to the EULA everytime they login probably or install a patch. If they want they could probably sue if they catch a wallhacker or anything similiar. They have your address and information.
Originally posted by neosurfeur SEriously one think to say : why in every forum we hear someone tell about suject like : HAKING. Seriously thas stupide to talk about hacking in game because everyone know, those who want to hack or Cheat, or do bug abuse are the person who always look every opportunity to be the better in the easiest way.( and those people are the first who begin to speak about that subject, and that only for asking to other what they think about that. <- for me that prety stupid to be like that. Well that will be like evey programme online, that will come with anti cheat, patch etc. than stop saying anything we know already about some nooob who doing hacking for getting everything easy.
Dude, spell check. And, as for one of your points (I think) I talk about this type of thing all the time. Not because I do it, but because the people who do piss me off. Don't knock people for talking about something bad.
MMO's usually don't have hackers because they have programs that scan your computer I know Blizzard has one. I know hacking won't be a problem in this game but people using exploits, glitches, and bugs to there advantage will. Every MMO I've played I didn't encounter any problems with hackers just sploiters.
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they wallhack for unreal without using any game files, they do it by creating a new dll that works with direct x.
It's an old engine and the hacks are pretty sophisticated
Despite such, I wouldn't worry too much.
It's now like there will be H2 Modders.. you can't expect there to be a free for all hack fest.
I'm sure they will have the necessary security.
Unlike a regular FPS game, this is a MMO with constant Packet Verifications occuring. I'd be shocked if they aren't going to add aseveral monitors, as well as a reporting function with CSR's.
But yeah, it concerns me as well. Not so much for the history of hacks, but that loosers that hack would rather spend time lookin/making hacks then gaining skills...
If you're really concerned about hackers, play the 360 version...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
How will that help?
360 players will be on the same server as PC players.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "Unlike a regular FPS game, this is a MMO with constant Packet Verifications occuring".
One of the more sneaky cheats found on the unreal engine is to vary your connection speed. When a packet is not verifyied (packetloss) the server does not print it. This occours more at low bandwidth.
At any snapshot moment in time, a verifyied object is present in the serverstate, and an unverifyied one is not.
Thus if I set my connection for low bandwidth until I fire, a significant number of your bullets will pass straight through me without collision. (imagine if I lose 1 frame in 8, while not detectable to the human eye, 1/8th of all your shots will miss.
When I fire it ups the bandwidth and my bullet will be drawn correctly each frame and be less likely to lag through you and miss.
Live admin is good, but if they don't have the tools, reporting anything to them is pointless. They need Anti cheat to catch people after you have alerted them.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
SEriously one think to say : why in every forum we hear someone tell about suject like : HAKING. Seriously thas stupide to talk about hacking in game because everyone know, those who want to hack or Cheat, or do bug abuse are the person who always look every opportunity to be the better in the easiest way.( and those people are the first who begin to speak about that subject, and that only for asking to other what they think about that. <- for me that prety stupid to be like that.
Well that will be like evey programme online, that will come with anti cheat, patch etc. than stop saying anything we know already about some nooob who doing hacking for getting everything easy.
One born every minute.
Eula's don't mean dick.
Current MMO: Aion
MMO Watch: Warhammer 40k Online, SWToR, GW2.
Played: Planetside, SWG, EQ, EQ2, L2, WoW, RFO, KAL, MxO, Voyage, RO,Vanguard,Tabula Rasa, Horizons, CoH/CoV,, Lotro, FFXI
First MMO: Everquest (Tunare Server, Ronin/Tide Guild)
But thanks for making this topic - you've given me fuel for interview questions.