i just made a mage (now level 17) and i cant seem to find a talent build that would be all around good in pvp and pve??
i tried frost, but in pvp i found myself only slowing people down, which actually helped my team, but left me no kills
i tried fire but then i started dieing more frequently...
i cant seem to find the right build...
please help
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Your only lvl 17, I wouldn't worry about group momentum or pve/pvp variety just yet, that will come in time. With builds, I've always said go with what makes you happy, not what pleases others, but obviously if working well in groups is important to you, you need to find a spec that does that.
Best place to look honestly is thottbot.com (<--- Linky). You can check out different templates for yourself, see what others have done, make a check list of gear you'd like to get at any given level and where they can be got. It's a great place to start.
Don't forget to check out the forums at WoW too. I hate going there myself but sometimes the class specific forums can have some pretty decent info, just don't post there without execpting the fact that you'll be innendated by dopped up ten year olds calling you a newb or carebare.
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At lvl 17 you're not really specced into frost... since you'll only have like 8 talent points. The real key frost talents come later, stuff that gives you 50% more critchance when enemies are frostnovad.
I've seen lvl 15 priests say: "NO WAY! I cant heal, I'm shadowspec".
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thanks...