Originally posted by Norked Originally posted by ob1sr ( means seventh day in the calender ) into SUNDAY, because the roman leader back then was a sun worshipper, then monday, moon day, worship of the moon, Zues day, Tuesday, woodns day, thor's day, Saturn day
It is amazing how wrong you are and how you follow whatever is fed to you.
First, in the current calendar you are speaking of, Sunday is the first day of the week, but, that is beside the point.
Where you are correct that Sunday is named after a sun god, you are incorrect to as when, or who provided the name. The Gregorian calendar, which is the current calendar used by most civilized countries today, adopted the days of the week from names already in place.
Following are where the names were obtained:
Sunday - Apollo. Apollo was an ancient Greek god, not Roman. If you know anything of history, Greek society predates the Roman empire by many, many, many years.
Monday - Selene. Ancient Greek Goddess of the moon.
Tuesday - You were way off on Tuesday. Tuesday has nothing to do with Zeus. Tuesday is the day of Ares, ancient Greek God of War.
Wednesday - A day attributed to Odin, the chief Norse (Scandinavian) god.
Thursday - Thor is not a Roman god. He is the Norse god of Thunder and is attributed to the beliief of Zeus.
Friday - Derived from Germanic" Frigga", who was Odin's wife.
Saturday - Loki the Norse god of tricks and chaos.
These will vary depending on which society you look at.
And to post an argument against your belief that just because the Qu'ran has never been changed means it is a religious book, ponder this.
The Iliad, writen by Homer nearly 2800 years ago has remained unchanged in its original greek language. Does that mean it is a religious book and is true?? No. The Bible, which you seem to understand as a single book, remains unchanged in its native language. The bible is a series of canonized manuscripts all placed in a single book. Some are over 4000 years old. And they are still in existence. Does that make them true? No.
You say the Qu'ran is only changed through translation. This is true as is the Bible. So, this does mean that the Qu'ran has indeed changed. You said yourself it does not mean the same thing in any other language other than Arabic. You can go to any book store here in the US and find the Qu'ran available in many different languages.
What does this mean for you? Well, you have said previously that the Qu'ran cannot be changed because allah (notice the lowercase because allah is a god, not God) will not allow it. Well, I guess he failed.
Now, answer me this. Why is islam the only major religion with the most intolerent people? You view non-muslims as infidels. This is not to say that christians or other religious are not intolerant, but they do not go around cutting people's heads off for others not believing in their religion.
And yes, you will come back with the answer that "not all muslims are like that". I beg to differ. I fail to see any muslim group denouncing the beheadings of civilians, military and workers of not only the US, but also every other country and also their fellow muslims. I fail to see any muslim groups standing up and saying "we do not agree with these islamo-facists". I fail to see the "peace" of islam.
What do muslims do when someone makes a cartoon (a very funny one I might add) portraying mohamed? They blow shit up, threaten to kill people and set buildings on fire. What do other religions do? They condemn the act, but cause no harm.
And in closing, I find it completely hilarious that you mention the finding of the giant skeleton. This was in the National Inquirer and was announced as a hoax.
Finally, mohamed was born in roughly 570CE (Common Era) and did not start plagarising the Qu'ran until roughly 611CE, 600 years after the New Testament was written and 4600 years after the first writings of the manuscripts creating the Old Testament. The Qu'ran mostly plagarized the Christian Bible and made up the rest. Mohamed is said to be illiterate. Many find that very difficult considering he was from a tribe of traders and part of that job was keeping records. Even if he was illiterate, big deal, his wife knew how to read and write. He could recite his story to her and she could record it.
It's not that hard to make up a religion. Just check the Flying Spaghetti Monster and his bible. Well, to continue on...
Muslims have been violent from the start. Mohamed was kicked out of Mecca because no one there wanted to hear his rantings. What did he do? He found a bunch of dolts who worshipped idols, converted them, created an army and headed to Mecca and killed helpless men, women and children who refused to convert. And this is how it remains today.
Actually, there is a group of Muslims here that denounce the violence going on all the time. They are a sect called Sufi.
It's not real safe to throw rocks when you live in a glass house. Catholics and Christians have been pretty violent from the get go themselves. They have been a religion that has been very aggressive against the Jews on many occassions. And even against people within themselves as well. Check the inquisition, or even groups such as the Cathars. And it's not just physical violence the Christians are guilty of, there is emotional violence they put people through as well.
American's and the rest of the world better figure something out danged quick on how to get along with Muslims. Muslims in America outnumber the Jews by a large number. And that number is growing faster than any other religion. What do you propose we do about that? Kill them? Is that a humane proposal?
It's not real safe to throw rocks when you live in a glass house. Catholics and Christians have been pretty violent from the get go themselves. They have been a religion that has been very aggressive against the Jews on many occassions. And even against people within themselves as well. Check the inquisition, or even groups such as the Cathars. And it's not just physical violence the Christians are guilty of, there is emotional violence they put people through as well.
American's and the rest of the world better figure something out danged quick on how to get along with Muslims. Muslims in America outnumber the Jews by a large number. And that number is growing faster than any other religion. What do you propose we do about that? Kill them? Is that a humane proposal?
I can throw rocks as I am not in a glass house. I never claimed to be Christian. But you do have to look at the Crusades were hundreds of years ago. True, Islam may be facing its own crusade of sorts, but there are deadlier weapons now than there were then. It takes one Muslim extremist group to obtain a nuke and detonate it.
As for what to do with the muslims in the US. Put them in internment camps. At least until this war is over. It happened in WWII to the japanese, germans and italians living in the US.
Originally posted by ob1sr Originally posted by shamall
The main reason why I personaly can not put faith in the bible is that it was written by man and anything writen by man is subject to interpritation or said persons prospective. I was actually pissed when I found out that Christopher Columbus was not the first person to discover america yet this is what was taught to me in school as a child. you can actually say that, but there are many books out there that contains alot of truth, and it is true that columbus wasn't the first one to discover the america. Yes but said books call into question the whole interpritation problem again. The deal with columbus taught me that what we know and teach today could very well be wronge and changed tomorrow.
Now I'm not saying that I think the bible is a lie but more that the events that it says happened actually did but may have been misinterpreted due to the lack of science and technology and more of a mystical belief system due to that age of mankind. For example what to us would have been a meteor shower, to a persom from lets say from 100 A.D. might be intepreted as the gods racing across the heavens. Even today we could explane how a virgin could give berth to a child. Miracles cannot be explained, they are seen, told as they were seen, period. but i'll tell you one thing you might not be aware of, did you know that in the past, very long past before Jesus was born, there were people who were much more technologically advanced than us? just look at the pharoahs, we can't even comprehend that kind of technology they had. on top of that, did you know that the human being was a gaint walking on the earth? it's true, fossils have been found of a gaint human skeleton in the saudia arabia's desert called, the empty quarter, and it is known that it is for the people of Aad, the ones who God have punished for being arrogant and disobedient. as of the interpretations, where does it say that a meteor shower was a race of Gods? since if there existed a religion, which have been, it would only tell of the existance of one God, but the problem is when people presume what other people might have presumed, which leads to more presuming. Actually I have heard of all this and do not doubt it. As for miracles, yes they are told as they are seen but what I meant by my example (and thats all it was, just an example) was that you have to take the level of intelligence of the person who is witness to said miracle into account.
From what I have researched on the subject, I am leaning more and more to believein the intelligent design theory. To put it bluntly I think we were genetically engineered from primates and what ever intellegence came to this planet. Science proves that there simply was not enough time for us to have naturally evolved from primates to our current form plus there is the "missing link" problem also with the theory of evolution. Evolution happens, but it never make you jump from a specie to specie, it's the effect of the environment on the new born babies, newly hatched eggs, which is how God told us in the Qur'an, "he is the creator, and he is the Evolver" human beings were human beings since their creation, Adam was the first human being and everyone knows that, yet God has different names in different countries, Yet, every muslim out there knows one name for God, which is Allah, BUT, every countrie's christians have different names for God. Thats sort of what I'm saying. Human beings were created but what I call into question was exactly how were we created by applying science instead of spirituality. It is proven that we share DNA with primates so you can't just cut them out of our creation. But the dating of fossils show that humans in our current form litteraly poped up over night compaired to the rate of evolution in other species. The only way to explain this besides god just saying "make it so" is that our creator was an advanced being who genetically manipulated a species already on this planet.
Ibelieve that Jesus did exist but if he was the son of god then that would make him not totaly human for god he/she/itself is not of this earth thus making it alien to us. And god would be alien to us in every since of the word for we could not even begin to understand such a level of intelligence and those who say they do understand god or know what god intends for us are the biggest fools of all. Jesus did walk the earth, he was not the son of God, he was just a human being, Muslims do believe that he was a miracle birth, from the Virgin mary, and we call him Eesa the son of Mariam, "Jesus the son of Mary", and we also believe in every other single prophet that has been sent before the prophet Mohammad. the problem with the christians today is that they are submitted to change whenever the situation needs, they have added things in christianity which didn't belong to it, x-mas, easter, whatever else, valentine, all of these had nothing to do with christianity, but the religon changes and did change over time, the first change was the names of the days, the Romans changed the names to fit their worshipping, they changed the day of worship from SABETH ( means seventh day in the calender ) into SUNDAY, because the roman leader back then was a sun worshipper, then monday, moon day, worship of the moon, Zues day, Tuesday, woodns day, thor's day, Saturn day. and so on, basically, the romans have changed the whole religion, and it was the catholic church back then, which was not part of any christian belief. i think i talked too much. my hands needs rest and i need to go do some shopping. Jesus was the son of god/Jesus was not the son of god, here we go with the whole interpritation thing again. Yes Jesus was the son of Mary but how did Mary become with child if she was a vergin? This miracle can be explaned with todays science. Also its not just christians who have twisted religion to fit their own purposes.
on top of that, did you know that the human being was a gaint walking on the earth? it's true, fossils have been found of a gaint human skeleton in the saudia arabia's desert called, the empty quarter, and it is known that it is for the people of Aad, the ones who God have punished for being arrogant and disobedient.
You might want to do some more research on this one. Its a hoax.
What next? Mermaids, the Loch Ness monster, and Big Foot remains found???
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
greaT another thread with people argueing about religion, though i doubt that was the OP's intention, just like the other, thread about the pentagon listing homosexuality as a disorder turnt into a masive flame war about religion.
I dont believe anything a how many year old book says, that has been translated numerous times by different people, with bits added and bits taken away. but no matter what i say the religious nuts will argue with me.
I dont really the idea of being told whAT is gonna hapen when i dies
Originally posted by Norked Originally posted by reavo
It's not real safe to throw rocks when you live in a glass house. Catholics and Christians have been pretty violent from the get go themselves. They have been a religion that has been very aggressive against the Jews on many occassions. And even against people within themselves as well. Check the inquisition, or even groups such as the Cathars. And it's not just physical violence the Christians are guilty of, there is emotional violence they put people through as well.
American's and the rest of the world better figure something out danged quick on how to get along with Muslims. Muslims in America outnumber the Jews by a large number. And that number is growing faster than any other religion. What do you propose we do about that? Kill them? Is that a humane proposal?
I can throw rocks as I am not in a glass house. I never claimed to be Christian. But you do have to look at the Crusades were hundreds of years ago. True, Islam may be facing its own crusade of sorts, but there are deadlier weapons now than there were then. It takes one Muslim extremist group to obtain a nuke and detonate it.
As for what to do with the muslims in the US. Put them in internment camps. At least until this war is over. It happened in WWII to the japanese, germans and italians living in the US.
Yeah, that's right round up the innocent and throw them in with the guilty. That's the American way, isn't it? And who's going to take care of their property when their in those internment camps? Who's going to run their businesses they own while they're locked up? Who's going to maintain their career's they had while they are gone? Nice plan.
Oh, and when you look at the reputation of a group, you don't just throw out their history and look at them now. If you do that, then you deny the fact that they are capable of doing what they have done again. Isn't that the reason we study history, so that we don't make the same mistakes twice?
Originally posted by tandurin religeon is a scam for weak minded scared people. what makes jesus christ any different from zeus or all the toher thousands of prophets proclaiming to be god over the hundreds of years????
He preached peace instead of fighting. I kind of like his message. I'm not so sure he was the son of God, but he was a great moralist teacher. I would at least consider his social messages.
Originally posted by reavo Originally posted by tandurin religeon is a scam for weak minded scared people. what makes jesus christ any different from zeus or all the toher thousands of prophets proclaiming to be god over the hundreds of years????
He preached peace instead of fighting. I kind of like his message. I'm not so sure he was the son of God, but he was a great moralist teacher. I would at least consider his social messages.
A freind of mine who looked like a redheaded Jesus was walking downtown to work @ 7AM. On the way there some guy passes him and says "Hey; don't blunts make the day?" to which he replied: "Why yes, yes they do!"
The guy was like "YES! I've been looking all over for a guy with long hair and a beard to smoke this with!"
True story.
Take that you noobs, learn 2 derail threads like a pro!
Originally posted by ob1sr Originally posted by viadi
OMG Please educate yourself: Every fossle record shows evolution is what bought man into being. No "alien" came to earth and "made" us. please read Charles Darwin orign of Species
Actually, every fossil found and is still being found proves that darwin was wrong, and every new study proves darwin is wrong, and every more research is done proves that there's a God.
the intelligent design theory says exactly this:
well, we believe in God, but our bosses don't want us to say that there's a God, but instead we called it intelligent design theory, although we believe it's true.
that's how me, and alot of other people read it from the mouths of these scientists.
realy, if you think there is evolution, then let me tell you something, there is evolution, but it is not how darwin described it, not even close.
it has been proven zillions of times that species don't evolve into other species, and another late study shows that the chimbanzie or whatever you wanna call it, has it's blood resamble the human blood by only 18% and it's the closest monkey to the human being.
please stop with the rubbish, how old are you? have you ever even been to school?
click on the link and read the book inteligent design is bull from the mouths of god bothers that are trying to persue a religious agenda. I beg you learn something and read it, dont fall into the religious crap find a mind of your own youll feel better for it
please stop with the rubbish, how old are you? have you ever even been to school? 23 years old and yes been to school and my major was science. click on the link and read the book inteligent design is bull from the mouths of god bothers that are trying to persue a religious agenda. I beg you learn something and read it, dont fall into the religious crap find a mind of your own youll feel better for it I am religious, and it is not crap as you describe it, and there is a God, and i've learned alot of things, and i think of everything i read and examine it carefully before running into conclusions, so please, it is you who must know what he's talking about before saying anything, and it is you who needs to pick a book other than the trash you learn in philosophy schools and READ IT.
Originally posted by ob1sr Originally posted by viadi
please stop with the rubbish, how old are you? have you ever even been to school? 23 years old and yes been to school and my major was science. click on the link and read the book inteligent design is bull from the mouths of god bothers that are trying to persue a religious agenda. I beg you learn something and read it, dont fall into the religious crap find a mind of your own youll feel better for it I am religious, and it is not crap as you describe it, and there is a God, and i've learned alot of things, and i think of everything i read and examine it carefully before running into conclusions, so please, it is you who must know what he's talking about before saying anything, and it is you who needs to pick a book other than the trash you learn in philosophy schools and READ IT.
ROFL
one of two things is happening here
1 your very funny and the ironic tone has been lost on the internet
2 your a compleate moron and have only just found out how to use the "magic box" the rest of the world calls a PC
Why should we fall into a state of unconsciousness each day? It revives our bodies. Don't want to sleep? Then you die. Where's your free will? It's right there. Choose.
Yet our stupid concept of God and right and wrong, has remained the same for thousands of years.
Which concept(s) is/are that?
and i think of everything i read and examine it carefully before running into conclusions
Doesn't seem like you did with that one Giant article. But maybe you meant most of the time?
Be nice for Christ's sake.
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather "Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek AC1: Wierding from Harvestgain
Not all concepts, as there are practically an infinite amount. I'm talking about the ones that are heralded by people similar to television evangelists (sp?) etc. Big booming voice, strikes you with lightening and fire if you disobey, and rewards those who follow, "In Heaven you rise to your fullness of love, and in hell you sink to your level of lack of love." Simple views are commonly accepted because of traditional ways, but when are we going to start accepting really bizzare or mind bending ideas of all this stuff?
but when are we going to start accepting really bizzare or mind bending ideas of all this stuff?
Hopefully when it appeals to our reason and doesn't just entice us because it sounds interesting. The Trinity concept is an old one if not ancient and it's fairly bizarre.
Just as an aside, I've often wondered if God speaks with an accent. And if he does, does it change among races when he speaks to people audibly? I mean, if you heard the voice of God right now, what would it sound like toyou.
As a further aside, I've been reading the Origin of Species and so far it seems like Darwin was opposed to the idea of every creature coming from one organism. He doesn't directly state it, I don't believe, but he implies it with his other opinions. Pretty uninteresting stuff to me for the most part I'm afraid though. I may have to dip into it periodically. Read one part, come back, read another, etc.
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather "Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek AC1: Wierding from Harvestgain
Originally posted by Adreal Why should there be an afterlife? Why should we fall into a state of unconsciousness each day? It revives our bodies. Don't want to sleep? Then you die. Where's your free will? It's right there. Choose.
Actually permanent insomnia renders victims unable to sleep at all. This condition is so rare that there are only 3 to 4 people known in the world at present known to suffer from this condition. An example is a case of a man from San Francisco in 1986. He had not slept since World War 2. Taking sleeping pills only gave him a slight drowsiness.
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
Just as an aside, I've often wondered if God speaks with an accent. And if he does, does it change among races when he speaks to people audibly? I mean, if you heard the voice of God right now, what would it sound like toyou.
Maybe even the very words he uses are heard differently from person to person. ^_^ But yeah, that's a very interesting idea Adreal.
I guess that didn't take too long to find. Thanks. Pretty interesting."It's a tragedy," izquierdo says, "a tragedy within my own self." Seems like life's a sort of living hell for him.
I suppose I chose the wrong analogy. I could list another. But if anyone wants me to explain the doctrine as I understand it, I'll certainly try.
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather "Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek AC1: Wierding from Harvestgain
Originally posted by Adreal http://www.chs.edu.sg/gep/insomnia/intro.html I guess that didn't take too long to find. Hardly anybody knows about it. I only know of it because of a news story from last year. Thanks. Pretty interesting."It's a tragedy," izquierdo says, "a tragedy within my own self."
Seems like life's a sort of living hell for him. Heck I would friggen pwn at mmorpgs if I could get permanent insominia. It's like the Holy Grail for gamers. I suppose I chose the wrong analogy. I could list another. But if anyone wants me to explain the doctrine as I understand it, I'll certainly try.
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
Point is some believe that after you die and the judgment you die forever (unconsciousness forever because there's nothing there to remain conscious). Others believe after the judgment that death is more of a living hell where you maintain consciousness and continue to suffer. The word death can mean different things depending on which one of these two you would be more likely to accept. I've heard good arguments on both sides, so I'm undecided at the moment.
At present I'm unsure of how far off-topic I'm becoming, but I'd say that I'm still within the title's range of subjects.
PS. Reading just got a little more interesting in the Origin of Species. After five lengthy paragraphs on pigeons it's starting to warm up.
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather "Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek AC1: Wierding from Harvestgain
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It is amazing how wrong you are and how you follow whatever is fed to you.
First, in the current calendar you are speaking of, Sunday is the first day of the week, but, that is beside the point.
Where you are correct that Sunday is named after a sun god, you are incorrect to as when, or who provided the name. The Gregorian calendar, which is the current calendar used by most civilized countries today, adopted the days of the week from names already in place.
Following are where the names were obtained:
Sunday - Apollo. Apollo was an ancient Greek god, not Roman. If you know anything of history, Greek society predates the Roman empire by many, many, many years.
Monday - Selene. Ancient Greek Goddess of the moon.
Tuesday - You were way off on Tuesday. Tuesday has nothing to do with Zeus. Tuesday is the day of Ares, ancient Greek God of War.
Wednesday - A day attributed to Odin, the chief Norse (Scandinavian) god.
Thursday - Thor is not a Roman god. He is the Norse god of Thunder and is attributed to the beliief of Zeus.
Friday - Derived from Germanic" Frigga", who was Odin's wife.
Saturday - Loki the Norse god of tricks and chaos.
These will vary depending on which society you look at.
And to post an argument against your belief that just because the Qu'ran has never been changed means it is a religious book, ponder this.
The Iliad, writen by Homer nearly 2800 years ago has remained unchanged in its original greek language. Does that mean it is a religious book and is true?? No. The Bible, which you seem to understand as a single book, remains unchanged in its native language. The bible is a series of canonized manuscripts all placed in a single book. Some are over 4000 years old. And they are still in existence. Does that make them true? No.
You say the Qu'ran is only changed through translation. This is true as is the Bible. So, this does mean that the Qu'ran has indeed changed. You said yourself it does not mean the same thing in any other language other than Arabic. You can go to any book store here in the US and find the Qu'ran available in many different languages.
What does this mean for you? Well, you have said previously that the Qu'ran cannot be changed because allah (notice the lowercase because allah is a god, not God) will not allow it. Well, I guess he failed.
Now, answer me this. Why is islam the only major religion with the most intolerent people? You view non-muslims as infidels. This is not to say that christians or other religious are not intolerant, but they do not go around cutting people's heads off for others not believing in their religion.
And yes, you will come back with the answer that "not all muslims are like that". I beg to differ. I fail to see any muslim group denouncing the beheadings of civilians, military and workers of not only the US, but also every other country and also their fellow muslims. I fail to see any muslim groups standing up and saying "we do not agree with these islamo-facists". I fail to see the "peace" of islam.
What do muslims do when someone makes a cartoon (a very funny one I might add) portraying mohamed? They blow shit up, threaten to kill people and set buildings on fire. What do other religions do? They condemn the act, but cause no harm.
And in closing, I find it completely hilarious that you mention the finding of the giant skeleton. This was in the National Inquirer and was announced as a hoax.
Finally, mohamed was born in roughly 570CE (Common Era) and did not start plagarising the Qu'ran until roughly 611CE, 600 years after the New Testament was written and 4600 years after the first writings of the manuscripts creating the Old Testament. The Qu'ran mostly plagarized the Christian Bible and made up the rest. Mohamed is said to be illiterate. Many find that very difficult considering he was from a tribe of traders and part of that job was keeping records. Even if he was illiterate, big deal, his wife knew how to read and write. He could recite his story to her and she could record it.
It's not that hard to make up a religion. Just check the Flying Spaghetti Monster and his bible. Well, to continue on...
Muslims have been violent from the start. Mohamed was kicked out of Mecca because no one there wanted to hear his rantings. What did he do? He found a bunch of dolts who worshipped idols, converted them, created an army and headed to Mecca and killed helpless men, women and children who refused to convert. And this is how it remains today.
Actually, there is a group of Muslims here that denounce the violence going on all the time. They are a sect called Sufi.
It's not real safe to throw rocks when you live in a glass house. Catholics and Christians have been pretty violent from the get go themselves. They have been a religion that has been very aggressive against the Jews on many occassions. And even against people within themselves as well. Check the inquisition, or even groups such as the Cathars. And it's not just physical violence the Christians are guilty of, there is emotional violence they put people through as well.
American's and the rest of the world better figure something out danged quick on how to get along with Muslims. Muslims in America outnumber the Jews by a large number. And that number is growing faster than any other religion. What do you propose we do about that? Kill them? Is that a humane proposal?
I can throw rocks as I am not in a glass house. I never claimed to be Christian. But you do have to look at the Crusades were hundreds of years ago. True, Islam may be facing its own crusade of sorts, but there are deadlier weapons now than there were then. It takes one Muslim extremist group to obtain a nuke and detonate it.
As for what to do with the muslims in the US. Put them in internment camps. At least until this war is over. It happened in WWII to the japanese, germans and italians living in the US.
The Brave Do Not Fear The Grave
on top of that, did you know that the
human being was a gaint walking on the earth? it's true, fossils have
been found of a gaint human skeleton in the saudia arabia's desert
called, the empty quarter, and it is known that it is for the people of
Aad, the ones who God have punished for being arrogant and disobedient.
You might want to do some more research on this one. Its a hoax.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_giant_skeleton.htm
What next? Mermaids, the Loch Ness monster, and Big Foot remains found???
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
greaT another thread with people argueing about religion, though i doubt that was the OP's intention, just like the other, thread about the pentagon listing homosexuality as a disorder turnt into a masive flame war about religion.
I dont believe anything a how many year old book says, that has been translated numerous times by different people, with bits added and bits taken away. but no matter what i say the religious nuts will argue with me.
I dont really the idea of being told whAT is gonna hapen when i dies
religeon is a scam for weak minded scared people.
what makes jesus christ any different from zeus or all the toher thousands of prophets proclaiming to be god over the hundreds of years????
I can throw rocks as I am not in a glass house. I never claimed to be Christian. But you do have to look at the Crusades were hundreds of years ago. True, Islam may be facing its own crusade of sorts, but there are deadlier weapons now than there were then. It takes one Muslim extremist group to obtain a nuke and detonate it.
As for what to do with the muslims in the US. Put them in internment camps. At least until this war is over. It happened in WWII to the japanese, germans and italians living in the US.
Yeah, that's right round up the innocent and throw them in with the guilty. That's the American way, isn't it? And who's going to take care of their property when their in those internment camps? Who's going to run their businesses they own while they're locked up? Who's going to maintain their career's they had while they are gone? Nice plan.
Oh, and when you look at the reputation of a group, you don't just throw out their history and look at them now. If you do that, then you deny the fact that they are capable of doing what they have done again. Isn't that the reason we study history, so that we don't make the same mistakes twice?
yep, he was the first hippie
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Story time!
A freind of mine who looked like a redheaded Jesus was walking downtown to work @ 7AM. On the way there some guy passes him and says "Hey; don't blunts make the day?" to which he replied: "Why yes, yes they do!"
The guy was like "YES! I've been looking all over for a guy with long hair and a beard to smoke this with!"
True story.
Take that you noobs, learn 2 derail threads like a pro!
Actually, every fossil found and is still being found proves that darwin was wrong, and every new study proves darwin is wrong, and every more research is done proves that there's a God.
the intelligent design theory says exactly this:
well, we believe in God, but our bosses don't want us to say that there's a God, but instead we called it intelligent design theory, although we believe it's true.
that's how me, and alot of other people read it from the mouths of these scientists.
realy, if you think there is evolution, then let me tell you something, there is evolution, but it is not how darwin described it, not even close.
it has been proven zillions of times that species don't evolve into other species, and another late study shows that the chimbanzie or whatever you wanna call it, has it's blood resamble the human blood by only 18% and it's the closest monkey to the human being.
please stop with the rubbish, how old are you? have you ever even been to school?
click on the link and read the book inteligent design is bull from the mouths of god bothers that are trying to persue a religious agenda. I beg you learn something and read it, dont fall into the religious crap find a mind of your own youll feel better for it
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
ROFL
one of two things is happening here
1 your very funny and the ironic tone has been lost on the internet
2 your a compleate moron and have only just found out how to use the "magic box" the rest of the world calls a PC
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
Why should there be an afterlife?
Why should we fall into a state of unconsciousness each day? It revives our bodies. Don't want to sleep? Then you die. Where's your free will? It's right there. Choose.
Yet our stupid concept of God and right and wrong, has remained the same for thousands of years.
Which concept(s) is/are that?
and i think of everything i read and examine it carefully before running into conclusions
Doesn't seem like you did with that one Giant article. But maybe you meant most of the time?
Be nice for Christ's sake.
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but when are we going to start accepting really bizzare or mind bending ideas of all this stuff?
Hopefully when it appeals to our reason and doesn't just entice us because it sounds interesting. The Trinity concept is an old one if not ancient and it's fairly bizarre.
Just as an aside, I've often wondered if God speaks with an accent. And if he does, does it change among races when he speaks to people audibly? I mean, if you heard the voice of God right now, what would it sound like to you.
As a further aside, I've been reading the Origin of Species and so far it seems like Darwin was opposed to the idea of every creature coming from one organism. He doesn't directly state it, I don't believe, but he implies it with his other opinions. Pretty uninteresting stuff to me for the most part I'm afraid though. I may have to dip into it periodically. Read one part, come back, read another, etc.
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather
"Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek
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http://www.chs.edu.sg/gep/insomnia/intro.html
I guess that didn't take too long to find.
Thanks. Pretty interesting."It's a tragedy," izquierdo says, "a tragedy within my own self." Seems like life's a sort of living hell for him.
I suppose I chose the wrong analogy. I could list another. But if anyone wants me to explain the doctrine as I understand it, I'll certainly try.
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather
"Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
Point is some believe that after you die and the judgment you die forever (unconsciousness forever because there's nothing there to remain conscious). Others believe after the judgment that death is more of a living hell where you maintain consciousness and continue to suffer. The word death can mean different things depending on which one of these two you would be more likely to accept. I've heard good arguments on both sides, so I'm undecided at the moment.
At present I'm unsure of how far off-topic I'm becoming, but I'd say that I'm still within the title's range of subjects.
PS. Reading just got a little more interesting in the Origin of Species. After five lengthy paragraphs on pigeons it's starting to warm up.
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