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Mid-east gonna be start of WW3?
Slickinfinit
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Its looking pretty bad now and I know they have always been fighting but the level of hate seems to be at it highest ever. Israel feels threatend and is defending their land but also the Palestinians feel opressed and groups like Hamas and Hezbollah think they are defending their rights and religion. This scenario doesnt make for much negotiating and to make matters worse Iran and Syria have their hands directly in the situation supplying rockets,money and terrorists. Israel is also using very harsh measures that ultimatley kill inocent civillians as well so this tit-for-tat escalation ov violence seems to be spiraling and explanding and the fact Iraq is at an almost civil war with US troops still under heavy presure there. The whole region has a great chance to plunge into chaos sooner than we can imagine and that will cause the whole world to take sides and also influence other rouge/terrorist nations like North Korea and various terrorist camps/bases to cause trouble.
I just dont see this one ending well and hopefully I am dead wrong but the sheer stuborness of people amazes me. I also hope the UN wakes up and actualy does what its suposed to do and prevent wars!
{(RIP)} SWG
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Without getting into that rambling anti-american gibberish that usually happens on the Net, the UN motioned to condemn Israels attacks but the US vetoed it since the motion, as they put it, focused only on what Israel is doing. From Reuters:
Ten of the council's 15 member-nations voted in favor of the resolution, while the United States cast the sole "no" vote. Four countries abstained -- Britain, Denmark, Peru and Slovakia.
I don't see how this whole production can get any better. I don't see a right and wrong in this escalation, just the wrong and innocent victims (on both sides). Too bad they can't split both sides into two groups: ones who are bound and determined to kill each other and those who just want to live their lives and don't care about politics.
Edit: Was Reuters, not the AP.
problem is isreal its that simple they are two heavy handed and that brings more terrorism
everyone needs to tell them to back off most of all the USA needs to tell them to backoff while i dont agree at all with the kidnapping of the solders killing 50+ civillions is out of order also cutting off civillion suplys is wrong and against the law
as for WWIII I've come to the conclusion that its being planed as we speak, with the inpending oil shortage and china wanting to be a superpower i see the middle east as a toy of the USA and China to fight about north korea is funded by china and china wont tell them to leave the missile test alone. why, because it wants war its the only way to become "top dog"
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
Alright since the time of Jesus or if you prefer "the bible days", they have been fighting each other like crazy!
the war now still has not stopped *suprise!* and is affecting everyones thinking of whats going to happen
next. before peace there must war that is the way of the humans. If we try to end this peacefully, it will
only provoke them and wage a full scale war all over the world like WW1 and WW2. only after the war will
there be peace but there is truly no peace as long as we're on earth.
sad but true
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
i'm glad someone agress with me. And its not only the isralites and the philistines, the jews/christians and
muslims are having a go at it too! man i was born in Indonesia and religion here is eithre your a muslim or a
christian, maybe some non believers but thats it unless you come from another country. A lot of fighting
between the two but Indonesia is already corrupted.
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
The whole discussion of the war is the biggest topic ever. Ok, look, Bush sent our troops into unknown territory he took the Iraqi leader -big mistake- and now started a war with the invasion. I doubt there will seriously be a WWIII but it is looking pretty grave. About the nukes: No. We won't ever send nukes because that will trigger the biggest, and only, nuclear warfare our lives will live to see. Trust me, Russia is just waiting for an excuse to nuke someone.
I do hope to expect everyone's troops out of Iraq here in a couple years after Bush's term is over. Here's the scary part. Did you know Bush can run again? He wasn't elected 2 terms. He was appointed to his first! I doubt anyone will vote for him now that he screwed our nation over.
But yeah, the war won't end anytime soon but it won't cause a WWIII.
The whole region has basically been in a state of perpetual war for thousands upon thousands of years.
I say either let em fight it out (as long as they keep it in their own yard), or turn the whole place into a big sheet of glass.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
From then on I just thought all hell would break loose and WW3 would seriously not be a far-fetched worry.
I was already considering buying a plane ticket out of here....
I dunno what to think of these people anymore, both sides behave like selfish children. I wish I could just slap them both, take all their toys away and send them off to each other's room
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[quote]problem is isreal its that simple they are two heavy handed and that brings more terrorism [/quote]
[quote]i hate religion and feel sorry for the fools that follow it. sometimes i feel they is no hope at all for man untill we move past this dark age of religion we need to be free of it so we can be free to create[/quote]
[quote] Bush sent our troops into unknown territory he took the Iraqi leader -big mistake- [/quote]
No, the mistake was, the soliders didn't have a throw away weapon, and unloaded 5-10 clips into Saddam while they had the chance. That was the mistake.
my friend, you are so wrong that you are blinded. I feel sorry for anybody that dosn't have any type of faith be it, neo pagan, buddist, or catholic. as for you, i feel sorry for you, cause without some type of faith your a shell and a pawn.
The islamic faith is big. infact one scumbag can take out 100 to 1000 people with a right placed dirty bomb, or suicide, bomb.
I'm going to explain something. The Islamic world hates you and me. They hate us even more cause were not muslims. This is not me being paranoid or anything, it's fact. The reason is getting so much flak is because they are 2 things. Jewish and Democratic. That's why.
And you got f*ck stanins like Iran, Syria, Hamas and the rest of the Muslims and muslim terrorist that just want to kill. Kill anything and everything, why, they have the RIGHT to kill you and me, according to the their religion, anybody and everybody that doesn't follow the Islamic faith is a infidel.
so ask your self this question, would you rather be forced to be a muslim, or being beheaded for refusing?
As a conculsion, I hope Israel, destorys them, wheres there's nothing left but a smoldering pot hole.
makes me sick that most people goes *Whine* *Whine* It's Israel's fault cause of this *whine* *whine*
or
*Cry* *Cry* Israel that *Cry* *Cry*
As for North Korea and China. Kim Jung-Il is insane. He wants war. He claims he can capture Souel in 2 hours. He has Chemical and Bio Weapons, he will use them if he goes to war, which he wants.
I rather not see the Forgotten War start up again (Korean War - and yes, the war is still going on, it's a a cease fire ATM 50+ years and growing)
If China wants to prove themselves to the worthless UN, they can step up to the plate and tell Kim Jung-Il to cease what he is doing, or They are going to do something.
If WW3 was to break out it would either break out in in Middle East. North korea would Aid whome ever the Axis is.
So, he said, Iran is winning.
{(RIP)} SWG
yea all our worries are at the israel and philistines wen we have bigger problems.. nukes. Like in the previous
posts, America has a few enemies just waiting for the right time. Canada i dunno about cuz we're with the
united nation and is a peaceful country. even though canada wants to help i harldy think they could do
anything. If America gets nuked, Canada will get their slice of the pie too therfore b**** slaping the UN the do
something. Of course at first they try to make this a peaceful thing but after a while, WW3 will be triggered/. i
hope not though.
I watched t.v. today so don't have a link but the stance of Israel supported by Bush is something to the effect of "We will stop when Hezbollah disarms".
I am deeply dissapointed by this, you might as well say "we will stop when the grass is blue and the sky is green" it isn't going to happen, talk about painting yourself into a corner *sigh*
That is the kind of 3rd rate diplomacy I expect from N.Korea, why the pretence that you want peace? Just be honest and say we are going to kill loads of civilians and we can't see us stopping any time soon.
No wonder democracy isn't particularly sought after in the middle East when democratic countries are actively seeking war.
This could escalate into something very nasty, I hope Blair and the other world leaders speak up at the G8 and condemn this.
Edit: I can't spell
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
I'm actually in Jerusalem right this second, and I can tell you the mood here is pretty calm. The Israelies aren't worried, mainly because they've been seeing this kinda thing for the past 60 years, it's nothing new. It won't be the start of WW3, it won't even be the start of a war, it's simply a small chance for Israel's neighbours to express their hatred for the country, they all basically seem to be 'jumping on the band wagon'.
There isn't much anyone can do to fight Israel, it's an extremely powerful country (by far the most powerful in the mid-east) and to top that it's one of the only countries in the east to be backed by america and it's allies. This will only last for a month, at the most, before the idiots firing rockets into israel realise their efforts are pretty much futile, and will only result in the loss of lives in THEIR countries, not israel.
give them 1 months notice that the place is going...away,then carpet bomb the entire area until there's nothing left but a 5 mile deep crater.then drop a large nuke on the crater.
problem solved,neither of you nutball factions have anything to fight over..now here's a plan,go build 2 seperate temples.
I think peoples are delusionning themselves. They think the opposing side is strong. It isn't. The terrorists who have been throwing rockets at Israel for years are desesperate. They declare an "Open War", that isn't really impressive, they have been abusing positions and attacking the neighboring country for years. I don't think they can do much beside crumbling on the floor and disappearing. With the US strongly installed in Iraq, both Syria and Iran are wearing shackles.
If Israel can play it cards nicely and well, it will open a new era of peace soon. Israel want peace and give Gaza freedom. Any common sense folks can see that. To have peace and be left alone they need to hunt down their terrorist or at least to cooperate with Israel to capture them. I expect the Liban to accept the terms of Israel and to hunt these terrorists, saying it is the will of Allah to hunt the peoples who interpret wrongly the teaching...the alternative is far less nice.
Israel/Palestinians/Libans will know peace before Iraqis. Peoples who want peace, Muslims peoples, are about to rise and get rid of these terrorists. Libaneses know very well that Israel doesn't want to conquer them, they want peace...just like most of them.
Canada's support isn't going to dwindle. I expect France to come to common sense, rockets attacks, border invasions, terrors action have to stop. Peaceful solutions didn't work, these lands have to be occupied and released only with the decent goodwill in order for peace to prevail. Chirac will lose much if he opposes this too vehemently unlike Iraq, in fact I expect him to lose the next elections if he opposes this, as Israel clearly displays goodwill. Opposing the US is something, when you are right it can even be good. But opposing both US and Canada while Canada is the strongest supporter would cost him his presidency. The French population know that Chirac is wrong on this.
In the past, Israel did give Liban southern lands back with the condition that the Liban army make sure it was safe for Israel, if they can't keep their words they will have to cooperate or accept occupation, security must be assured. Israel is displaying a LOT of goodwill. Israel doesn't have any other choices. Rocket and terror attack are still rampant after years of trying a more peaceful solution. Criminals can only be dealt in one way. If the criminals manage to get some claim to the country rulership, they have to be dealt with. Rockets launching, incursions, these have to stop, no matter what it take to make it stop.
Maybe THAT was the real reason behind Iraq, placing US troops in the area while removing the strongest problematic army in the same time.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
No one serious has any military alliances in the middle east (and not with North Korea either).
A war becomes a world war when a series of alliances are drawn into a fight together, rather like dominoes.
Germany declares war on Poland, but Poland has a mutual defense pact with France and England, so France and England declare War on Germany, who has a mtual defense pact with Italy and Spain and Turkey, so Turkey Italy and Spain declare war on France and England. England has a defense pact with India, Canada and with the Anzacs. So they all join in and so on. This is a world war.
The same old third world countries killing themselves over the same old 50 miles of sand they have always done for the last 5,000 years is not a world war and not even the beginnings of one.