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Race specialists?
naldric
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I was wondering, for example, the high elves have 4 classes, i suppose one of them will be the mage/healer class, will the mage/healer class from the high elves be stronger than say, the mage/healer from the Orc race? and if yes, would this mean that the Elven Pikeman (it's just a guess i dont know if they will be in) would be a worst warrior than the other warrior classes of another race? or on the contrary will they do that all warriors/mages/etc are balanced and then not depending on the race to be more or less strong?
Basically i was wondering if what they are planning to do is balancing realm against realm, race against race and/or class against class? 
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You want us to guess something based on guesses?
If the answer is yes, well i think the best would be to balance first Realms, then Races, then classes.
When it comes to PvP, when you enter a PvP area, the side with the least population will be balanced out with NPCs called Dogs of War. When more players show up, the NPCs will start to go away, depending on the imbalance in the fight.
I think that's about all that's public in terms of population control at the moment.
We know that the Dwarves and Greenskins will have the Tanker/Melee DPS/Ranged DPS/Healer classes. Along with the idea that each race will AT LEAST have a healer class, the elven classes can easily be the only races with the "Nuker" archtype. I can very well see both Elven races to just have the Mage/Nuker class for pure, raw, offensive muscle. With perhaps the Empire/Chaos classes being a balance somehwere between those. I just hope Mythic can finally release more information very soon, because I am becoming impatient here
it would be totally stupid on Mythic behalf to make the High Elf wizard (for example) THE best wizard around while their warriors are THE worst. Who the heck would play an high elf warrior?
You would have all Dwarven warriors, high elf wizards and human something else.... that does not make any sense to me and if Mythic knows something in this field (as i believe they do) they won't do such things.
After all they have experience aplenty in making classes that fill the same roles, be somewhat different without being totally unbalanced. (meaning an Armsman and a Warrior are at least comparable in skills and performance)
What i see probable is that each race will have differences of sorts. Dwarfs will favor defense, maybe, so even their offensive tankers, the hammerers, will have more defense than high elves White Lions, that instead will be maybe more damaging sacrificing armor.
I think the goal would be to offer some difference, but not to actually alter the power level of each race.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Well if you see some of the movies on YouTube or something... you can see when they show info on the greenskins and Dwarves ..
All it shows is the Greenskin slide with a couple classes like War Boss or whatever... and then it tells you right underneath.. "Melee DPS" or "Ranged DPS" "Magic/Caster" "Melee Tank"
And in truth.. there were EXACLTY the same class TYPES for the Greenskins AND the Dwarves..
So.. every RACE will have the same CLASS TYPE ... so if you want to be a Elven "Melee DPS" .. or Warrior (Whatever they end up calling that class type).. you'll get to...
If you want to be a DWARF "Melee DPS" .. whatever they end up calling that as well.. you'll get to..
And while they will both be Melee DPS characters.. they'll probably go about it in different ways.. have little variances.. subtleties .. etc..
But none of them will be BETTER than the other.. just different.. and in truth.. unlimiting .. because nobody will be forced to be a RACE they don't want to be.. just so they can duel wield some swords better than the other guy..
.... i think
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Besides that if you played daoc you know its all about the 8 man. So ya maybe you could be a elf warrior but it would be weaker than a dorf. No ones gonna invite you to a group for a pvp run. People will figure out the best group combo and that will be the staple.
Ill also add the relm points started this elite 8 man grind fest for rvr too.
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I tend to agree with some of this, but not all. I have been reading up on Warhammer armies (been a long time since I dusted off my figures). Your theory of Dwarves being stronger than Elves may be true but from what I have read combat is not just based on strength.
Your skills will also be a factor I.E. Dark Elves are highly skilled but fragile. Elves could have lower hit points but more skill points (we will have to wait and see).
Other things not to be discounted from Warhammer Fantasy are the Greenskin Shamans (and their potions) and Caos Sorcerers.
I tend to agree with some of this, but not all. I have been reading up on Warhammer armies (been a long time since I dusted off my figures). Your theory of Dwarves being stronger than Elves may be true but from what I have read combat is not just based on strength.
Your skills will also be a factor I.E. Dark Elves are highly skilled but fragile. Elves could have lower hit points but more skill points (we will have to wait and see).
Other things not to be discounted from Warhammer Fantasy are the Greenskin Shamans (and their potions) and Caos Sorcerers.
I would be HIGLY disappointed if this is the case!
While it is true that High elves, for example, are a more magical race than humans or dwarves, some of their elite fighting troops are simply cool. Phoenix Halberders, Swordmasters, Silver helms, Dragon princes and White lions.. not to speak of the seaguard and the shadow guys....
No no, They will have some mix of things, prolly skewed so you will see 2 or even 3 casters for elves, but some melee.. yes most probably
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Anyway, I'd say that Mythic wll have it well laid out, seeing as how they have got the experience from producing Daoc.
Like it was said, there will probably be differences, but I believe this will relate a lot more to how that "race works". Example: Dwarves would be a bit sturdier than elves, but elves would be a bit more nimble... and so on.
Nothing that would force you to go one race or another though.
At least I think so.
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