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Just another reason for (ME) to hate Role Players

I voted no.

I dont really see what the problem with it is. I am not gay, and in fact I abhore the actual concept of being gay, however I dont see a problem with people making characters who are of a specific sexual or racial alignment.

I would love to see some developers making allowances for more adult themes in software, particularly in mmorpgs, I am sick of various institutions in life dictating what we can see, say and do.

I doubt very much that I would want to interact with a gay group in an mmorpg, but I dont see any reason why they couldnt exist. Likewise with racially aligned groups. It seems to me that the problems that might arise from it wouldnt actually be with the groups themselves, it would be with the close minded individuals who see fit to continually insult them over and over ingame with deragatory words. I dont particularly like gays, and I have been known to be racially intolerant, but equally I dont go at them shouting insults

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  • darkendrearydarkendreary Member Posts: 17

    People being gay, or expressing their heritage doesnt bother me. Never did. The college I went to was very liberal and open minded. My parents raised me to be acepting of anyone regardless of their sexual preference. So to see two people in love regardless of whether or not they are a straight couple or gay couple seems perfectly normal to me. Same goes for people who take pride in their heritage. Now I do not like racism be it whites against blacks or reverse racism like blacks against whites. We are all human.

    In a game, there is a vast mix of players. No need to exclude any.

     

    Sadly though, this world is still too closed minded to see its present course is not a good one.

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  • BrahmBrahm Member Posts: 60

    I dont think this is an issue really. I know some gay people who do actually play mmorpg's and they dont seem to offend anyone. If the more "risque" areas were left out of mmorpgs then I think we should exclude men from role-playing females in these games; which btw the way is prominent in most games on the market right now.

  • sturm117sturm117 Member Posts: 7

    First off, just because a guild is recruiting gay members does not mean that they are roleplaying or that they are gonna roleplay.  That beside the point, I am much in opinion with K2thek about this.  I myself was raised for this to be a bad thing and I personally do think it's wrong and don't like it.  I don't think they should have any form of restrictions or not be allowed to do something like that though.  It's there choice and I will avoid them myself, but there is absolutely no reason for them not to allow it.  That's like saying they should disallow guilds or groups or even communication in an mmorpg because people of a certain sex or race or height or weight might all get together and talk.

    As far as people hating roleplaying, I think your into the wrong type of game.  MMORPG, Massively Multi-Online Role Playing Game.  Doesn't mean it should be mandatory for people to role play or anything like that, but your bound to come into contact with role roleplayers and quite a few of them.  Most people role play in an mmorpg if not at least even a very tiny part of the time.

  • ViolentYViolentY Member Posts: 1,458



    Originally posted by darkendreary

    People being gay, or expressing their heritage doesnt bother me. Never did. The college I went to was very liberal and open minded. My parents raised me to be acepting of anyone regardless of their sexual preference. So to see two people in love regardless of whether or not they are a straight couple or gay couple seems perfectly normal to me. Same goes for people who take pride in their heritage. Now I do not like racism be it whites against blacks or reverse racism like blacks against whites. We are all human.
    In a game, there is a vast mix of players. No need to exclude any.
     
    Sadly though, this world is still too closed minded to see its present course is not a good one.




    I'm not sure what you're post is saying; you never addressed the immediate question asked in the first post. I assume you're saying, then, that the guild mentioned in the first post is unfair? As it only allows gays and not heterosexuals. It's rather hard to tell exactly what you mean, as most--if not all--of your post is geared towards gay-pride. Also, you might want to keep your pride in check.

    One question I'd like to ask you all: would you feel the same way if it were a straight-only guild, and didn't allow any homosexuals?



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  • OmolOmol Member Posts: 332
    Dont matter as long as they dont try to hit on me.

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  • SshadowthiefSshadowthief Member Posts: 6

    I also voted NO

    First off, the whole point to roleplaying he is being who you want to be, if someone wants to be a fag..let them just ignore them or (depending on the game and your level) kill them. image

    Second, stereo types are a large part of MMORPGS. Orcs live together Humans live togther and they both hate eachother, its just the way it is and there is nothing you can do about it.

    Just my opinion, Thanx

  • mrwigglz07mrwigglz07 Member Posts: 283
    i am not aganist gays but i dont know about the rpg classification....If gays wanna be further exploited and debated about then this is a good issue.  If they wanna attract attention by seperating themselves from others then again....ITS A FREE COUNTRY but i think this issue is GAY

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  • K2theKK2theK Member Posts: 67

    A 13 year old would not be at all scarred by being presented with gay characters in a game. Speaking as a school teacher of children of 11-16 years old, I can safely say that all of our children are taught of homosexuality.

    Children in my area are taught of homosexuality at a relatively early age, and even of other things such as S+M, prostitution, and in some places even bestiality. Then again, it is often said by people that we here in europe are much more liberal, open and tolerant than places like the US.

    Course alot of these mmorpgs also carry teen content ratings, so I guess a parent would expect some more adult themes and possibilities in them. (Personally I would love to see 18 certificates on them, goddamn kids playing them with mommy and daddies credit cards...but thats a whole other issue and not one for debate in this thread).

    Again, I really dont see the problem with someone roleplaying a gay. I dont see what possible negative effect it could have on someone, other than proving that the person has an innate ability to insult the roleplayer, for his/her beliefs/attitudes. Besides, who knows...maybe they are roleplaying a gay knight :) , after all...one of the knights of the round table was gay in literature.

     

  • InsideAEInsideAE Member Posts: 3

    Well i have a first person point of view on this issue. I am gay, however I don't role play a gay charicter while I'm playing my current game. I did join a "gay guild" in DAoC about a year ago when I played that game. The guild itself, allowed gay and gay friendly players. In fact It had more strait players in it than gay ones. Most gay people that play online games would be more than happy to interact with non-ignorant strait players. And when i say non-ignorant i am reffer to people who do not use the word faggot. Which by the way is rude and childish IMO. Of course the use of that word don't offend me cuase I personaly don't give two sh*t's what stupid people thing of me. Anyways...

    The point I am tring to make is people who play online games have a right to role-play in any way they want as long as it don't offend or insult other groups of players. Meaning starting a guild called the KKK or something would not be a very good thing. But if a group of players wants to get together a group of people and start a guild with other like minding people then there is nothing wrong with it. Anyone who has a problem with that needs to grow up and get over yourself. Being gay in online role-playing games will never be banned becuase if a game company tried that they would get a media backlash and a public relations nightmere to boot. And we all know that these game commapnys can't afford that.

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384



    Originally posted by K2theK
    Children in my area are taught at a relatively early age, and even of other things such as S+M, prostitution, and in some places even bestiality.



    Now, that is just plain sick

    I teach children too, but if I ever saw anyone teaching children about s&M and Beastiality I would have them thrown in prison faster than you can say "I need to call my lawyer"

    I hope you don't teach children about that smut.  They'll learn it from their peers eventually, but for God's sake what the hell are u doing by teaching them about having sex with sheep or having sex with whips and chains?? 

    I certainly hoping you're not teaching them that.  If so, you need to be locked up.  There is no educational profit behind teaching leather studded whip and chains and farm sex to children.  Hell, tell me your school so I dont refer parents there.

    In all the schools I have taught, never were we encourage or allowed or even desired to teach that.

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    If someone wants to RP a gay person, then thats their thing

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • K2theKK2theK Member Posts: 67

    Well I teach ICT (Information and Computer Tech), so it would be a most odd thing for me to teach :)

    There is a big difference in being taught "about" something and being taught "of" something, the children are merely made aware of such things. Not taught the ins and outs (if you will pardon the pun), of them.

    As for what teachers here teach, its not on an ad hoc basis, they are specifically told which modules and agendas to teach overseen by governmental curriculums. So its not so much a particular school as an entire country. However, like I say...there is a huge difference between being taught about something and being made aware of something.

    Be thankful you dont live in Sweden (neither do I by the way, but I do live in europe), In sweden bestiality isnt even illegal.

  • SamuraiEtoSamuraiEto Member Posts: 50



    Originally posted by Alphamalebsr
    I dont know about you guys but when I play a game expecially a MMO I really dont want these issues to be apart of my gamming expierence.. I mean I see enough of it in real life.
    How do you guys feel? Feel free to explain, I guess..

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    It just seems to me you might have issues facing reality. Don't blame the MMORPGs or developers or anything else you can think of for it. The fact is it exists; stereotypes, divided communities, sexuality, and everything else... It's just my feeling that if you're using MMORPGs to escape your own life, then it's an unhealthy thing for you to be playing. Games and every other form of entertainment are great for me... I enjoy just about any style of game or entertainment out, but I'll never close my eyes or turn my head from the reality of our lives, whether I agree with other's lifestyle or not. So my stance is really your opposite... When you ask if I mind if these subjects are incorporated or allowed into the gaming world, I say why not? They're in our lives anyway so they might as well be in games too. Maybe they'll even help people open up a little about something they don't understand, like other races or whatever they have an aversion towards.

    Open your mind, and your heart will follow.

  • K2theKK2theK Member Posts: 67
    Well most major mmorpgs do have a people filter...just use the ignore function to filter out the chat of anyone you want.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384



    Originally posted by K2theK

    In sweden bestiality isnt even illegal.



    LOL, No wonder some of those babies are weird looking

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