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Forced Chemo: Medieval "Medicine"
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I was reading the headlines today when I came across the most abhorrent situation imaginable: A teen that had undergone the most vile and primitive treatment today had seen no results and decided that it would be best if he seek another form of therapy ("alternative").
The government is now trying to force him back into Chemo, which has shown no beneficial results in his case.
The probability of him dying from the Chemo is reasonably high, so that it would essentially defeat the entire purpose of the treatment itself. It is somewhat implied that this is the sort of autocracy the medical community wishes; time and time again they have been proven wrong because of their naive statistical methods with no intelligent modeling behind them.
The very founder of modern medicine emphasized the fact that naive conjectures from statistics were dangerous and it is very ironic that we have not come much further today.
When have they been wrong? Look at what kind of changes the field of psychiatry and radiology have undergone and the many instances where their "treatments" actually ruined the lives of their patients.
How can the government be so naive as to axiomatically accept the claims of physicians without justification? It's apparent that the medical community has established itself as an insipid intellectual mafia that attempts to stymie new research that contradicts methods that it has used erroneously for decades.
So, the government is destroying civil liberties to appease drug giants and doctors' salaries? What do you think?
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This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
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This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
I think he should take the Chemo, but that the government has no right to make the choice for him.
I would say its a little bit ridiculous for the state to get involved and try and force the kid into chemo. That is, under the assumption that the parents are generally speaking reasonable people.
And I dont want to stereotype, or make judgments... BUT...
"Abraham — full name Starchild Abraham Cherrix — lives with his four
younger brothers and sisters and parents in Chincoteague, where his
dad, Jay, runs a kayaking outfitter and his mom, Rose, home-schools the
kids"
That coupled with:
"Abraham and his family are treating his cancer with an herbal remedy
four times a day and an organic diet under the guidance of a clinic in
Mexico. The remedy, called the Hoxsey method, has not been clinically
tested, and there is no scientific evidence that it is effective, the
American Cancer Society says."
It seems to me his parents are not your typical people. At least, thats what I get from the article.
I would say, try their ridiculous herbal remedy for a period of time. (Assuming the cancer is not bad enough that he will die in a short period of time if it doesnt work) and if and when it doesnt work then take custody and give him chemo if necessary. When the parents see the herbal rememdy does not work they should have the common sense to try chemo again (or face certain death) and if they cant make that decision then maybe someone else needs to step in.
First and foremost it's the parents that should have the yay or nay say in what types of treatment the kid receives. Afterall the parents are responsible for their children, not the government. Secondly I believe this kid is in his mid to later teens and should have some say in what he wants to do. Afterall it is his body, his life and he will have to live with the consequences either way. If he is mature enough and knowledgable enough to make coherant decisions then his choice should be honored.
No one should have to live through chemo if they don't want to or have to. I've seen a couple of my family members go through this and it's completely awful.
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So, the verdict has arrived: Henceforth you will be forced to treat your illnesses with the medical community's "treatments" regardless of whether they ail you or not!
If I were those parents I'd do the same thing and refuse to sign the waivers, since the judge is definitely not worth the weight of a .22 bullet.
Oh .. and one more thing:
/spit on the American judicial system
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
The kid is 16, operative word....."kid". His parents are down right criminal in refusing chemo to take herbs and holistic remidies. Sixteen is NOT the legal age to make such life threating decisions and apparently the parents are looking for a big fat insurance cheque sooner than later by pushing their SON into an early grave with absouloutley, undeniably medical neglect of a minor, their son.
You know...hearing about this whole situation makes me quite angry - Talk about injustice.
But then I got to remember, we live in a fascist nation. And crap like this will become only more commonplace as time goes by.
Way past due for a revolution.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
I believe it is law in the U.S. or at least in a number of states that chemo is the only therapy to be used in the treatment of cancer. I suppose if they want to take this law seriously they could.
That doesn't mean I agree. In fact if I got cancer I would most likely use a method like hoxley or whatever(never heard of that one) to try and alleviate my symptoms and would hate for someone to accost me and zap me with crap rays that destroy your cells as well as cancer. Although they are getting better at "aiming" chemo rays.
I saw this therapy on FSTV which is a station on Dish Network(what PBS wanted to be. lol that went off air for like a month after a this money drive they had. Hard times. That doesn't mean I don't discount their independent media and great documentries like this therapy one. I don't fall for liberal crap either. I read between all lines, liberal and convservative. Anyways back to the point.) www . fstv. com i think. Maybe too liberal for most but ^^^^^ try it...
It was called the Gearson Therapy and involved a diet of common vegetable and fruits(no magic herbs here) that you juiced a certain way with this special juicer, which was probably part of the reason it didn't become popular or whatever. lol plus it was 20lbs! of veggies and fruit a day. I'd fanagle the juice pressing part. Can crusher or vise type thing would work. This man's daugheter continues his work today. She's old now and doesn't seem quite as bright as her old man but she has all the records and edited his book to be easier to understand and such.
90% success or something like that and that's with at least prostate(all i remember, i believe many). Amazing. Look it up. Hell I might do it when I turn forty just to cleanse my body of toxins. Although I don't want to live to be old and crusty really. Another story there though.
[day one of med school, lesson one] "first do no harm" its been that way for over 1000 years why has it been changed now? no cash in not treating someone or just another example of the nanny state
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
If he were 18, he could do this, yes, and on one could force him not to. But since the final decisions rest with his parents, anyone can sue someone else for neglect.
I read this paragraph and it made me roll my eyes "Abraham and his family are treating his cancer with an herbal remedy
four times a day and an organic diet under the guidance of a clinic in
Mexico."
Good luck with that Abraham, I think in the end u should be able to decide on what u want to do, but the law doesn't work like that so this was bound to come your way.
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I know this guy in real life. I used to live 20 miles above Accomak County, VA in Pocomoke, MD. 80% of all my family lives in the same county as this teenager.
While I do agree that the government should not impose their will against someone else's health beliefs I also know this family on a first name basis.
First of all, while the kid is normal there are some of his family that are a few fries short of a happy meal. If you ever lived in Accomak county, VA or the stateline cities in Maryland you will agree with me when I say some of those "folks" down there aren't very modern.
The chemo treatment for this kid had placed his cancer in remission for a couple years. When it resurfaced again two months ago he decided he didnt want it because it made him nauseous the first time. Also, his holistic herbal remedy isn't very "effective" against cancer (family discovered this "remedy" because his cousin used to work alongside the Migrant workers from Mexico who told him it cures cancer. I will not even go into what the Mexican clinic looks like)
However, I do agree that he should do whatever he wants, but coming from someone who personally knows this family, I tend to know why the judge ordered him to do it anyways.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
It complicates life.
I'm talking about suicide for slow folks.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American