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Afghan Massacre - The Convoy of Death

britocabritoca Member Posts: 1,484
well, I just watched this on TV and I am completely disgusted.  I don't know if this is true or not but someone needs to investigate this IMMEDIATELY!  No Excuses!

Afghan Massacre - The Convoy of Death

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"According to the
film, some three thousand of the prisoners were forced into sealed
containers and loaded onto trucks for transport to Sheberghan prison."

"W
hen the prisoners began shouting for air, U.S.-allied Afghan soldiers fired directly into the truck, killing many of them."

"US Special Forces
re-directed the containers carrying the living and dead into the desert
and stood by as survivors were shot and buried. Now, up to three
thousand bodies lie buried in a mass grave."

"‘AFGHAN MASSACRE – the convoy of DEATH’ was produced over ten months in
extremely dangerous circumstances: eyewitnesses were threatened, the
film crew went into hiding and our researcher was savagely beaten to
within an inch of his life."

"Two of the witnesses in the film have already been killed."

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Comments

  • ArremusArremus Member Posts: 656

    "... and the United States will not allow its Military personnel to be tried for alleged warcrimes abroad."

    Yet another horrific atrocity slowly surfacing in the Middle East, fighting against the immense pressure of a 'cover up'. These crimes do go both ways, committed by both sides, and no one seems to be accountable for anything anymore.

    It really amazes me how much influence the International community if willing to put up with from the USA. Their (USA) vote alone is enough to let Israel continue to bomb civilians in Lebanon and Palestine. Their refusal to admit something took place means it's brushed under the world-political carpet.

    It's really quite depressing, very pathetic.
    And movies like this, however well researched and condemning of the parties involved, often effectively amount to nothing due to the International bodies having no spine whatsoever. No strength, power to bring these sorts of atrocities to the public eye.

    Or perhaps NATO and the UN are more than prepared to just not open up the can of worms that is "Warcrimes", seemily committed daily in various countries through Europe and the Middle East in relation to this war [edit: and of course nearly every other country in the world due to various causes], all under the psuedonym of a "War on Terror". What a crock of shit that term now is. "War on Terror" needs to be replaced with something like "Lack of Accountablity for Warcrimes Being Committed".

    Until the UN and its associated International agencies grow the balls enough to stand up against some of its members, to say "We are going to look into the crap so get the fuck out of our way", until that happens none of these movies amount to more than a stirring tribute to the murdered.

    And all of the journalists who die exposing power kegs have died in vain.



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  • KingleopoldKingleopold Member Posts: 26

     "don't know if this is true or not but someone needs to investigate this IMMEDIATELY!"

    It's true.  More then that, it was reported soon after it happened.

    If you'd prefer not hearing your news several years late, may I recommend the liberal blogosphere?  It's much faster!

  • WantsumBierWantsumBier Member Posts: 1,079
    Not an excuse but a possible explanation.
    To those of us who live by the Judea –Christian Ethic this action is abominable! 
    Now look at it through the eyes of those who committed it. The Northern Alliance is comprised 
    of local warlords and peasants who suffered similar fates under Taliban rule. 
    The idea of Lex Talonis (an eye for an eye) or retribution is a common course of action in that part of the world, 
    and has been for eons. In regards to the U.S. Special Forces, what would you do in their position? 
    You are out numbered thousands to one, they are your only allies in the region, 
    and you are under orders to maintain a good working relationship with these individuals.
     
    Is what they did wrong? IMO yes. Would I have tried to stop it? I can’t answer that, I was not there.

    I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.

  • abbabaabbaba Member Posts: 1,143


    ‘AFGHAN MASSACRE – the convoy of DEATH’ was produced over ten months in extremely dangerous circumstances: eyewitnesses were threatened, the film crew went into hiding and our researcher was savagely beaten to within an inch of his life.

    Sounds pretty phony to me.

  • KingleopoldKingleopold Member Posts: 26

    "Sounds pretty phony to me. "

    Are you quite aware of the violence and total lack of order currently to be found in Afghanistan?  Have you heard news from there in the last two years?  Needless to say, there's nothing fishy about those dangerous curcumstances.  Do you think CBS somehow had it much easier, or something?  Why would a major news organization secretly have an easy time reporting a story?  Mr Abbaba, you're lightly suggesting a pretty odd conspiricy for the sake of dismissing a story you'd rather not believe.  That's denial. 

  • IIRLIIRL Member Posts: 876
    Old news, IT WAS SELF DEFENSE!

    I don't think there will be any justifications to this amongst other atrocities commited.

    I read a news coverage awhile ago about a US soldier shooting a little Iraqi girl at point blank range, the girl ran towards her father whom was shot and the US soldier said that she were going for the grenade.

    That wasnt murder according to the US mil, just self defense, like what Israel is currently conducting.




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  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065

    Truck Drivers are payed a million dollars a year if they transport supplies in war zones.  Two things come to mind when I see this.

    1. A surprise attack ocurred during transport.

    2. An execution was secretly planned.

    A surprise attack looks more plausible.

  • ArremusArremus Member Posts: 656


    Originally posted by Vercades 

    A surprise attack looks more plausible.



    Ugh, ok.
    Just you go on believing the dream.


    Oh and to the comment:
    In regards to the U.S. Special Forces, what would you do in their position? 
    You are out numbered thousands to one, they are your only allies in the region, 
    and you are under orders to maintain a good working relationship with these individuals.

    I must say, I've never actually seen someone try to justify genecide before, but this was a good effort. Of course, actually watching the movie you would realise the US troops didn't just.. happen to be there. It wasn't like they turned left and came across a bunch of trucks.
    You honestly think the NA troops were in command? That the US SF were just innocent bystanders?

    But we will believe what we wish to believe I guess.

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  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by Arremus

    Originally posted by Vercades 

    A surprise attack looks more plausible.

    Ugh, ok.
    Just you go on believing the dream.


    Oh and to the comment:
    In regards to the U.S. Special Forces, what would you do in their position? 
    You are out numbered thousands to one, they are your only allies in the region, 
    And you are under orders to maintain a good working relationship with these 
    individuals.

    I must say, I've never actually seen someone try to justify genecide before,

    but this was a good effort.

    Of course, actually watching the movie you would realise the US troops didn't just.. happen to be there. It wasn't like they turned left and came across a bunch of trucks.
    You honestly think the NA troops were in command? That the US SF were just innocent bystanders?

    But we will believe what we wish to believe I guess.


    POW's don't really get the greatest perks during transport.  Why not put responsibility on the enemy of the surrendered enemy and, leave a couple in the field ready to ambush the transports.  Cause confusion and, tailor a warcrimes charge.
  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    If it is proven false and as internet lies, I hope whoever made this is accounted for propaganda.

    If it is true, then it is a shame and I don't know how we can honestly hope to improve their country by doing this type of trash, but if it is false(which I believe it is), then whoever made that trash deserve the consequences of their acts.

    Afghanistan has many pro-fanaticals peoples from America who join their ranks, look like such type of propaganda­.  I am tired to see everyone just assume the army is wrong by default, what if it wasn't the case?  What if the army was right and didn't take the role it is been accused off?  I am sure some of our allies in this country must have done such horrible acts, just as some of our enemies, this is the way the locals are handling stuff, we can't change them and make them nice boys just because they join our cause.  If it is the actions of some of our local allies, then assuming we sue our local enemies first, then sure, sue them as well...but don't sue the allies before you sue all enemies for similar actions!

    Afghanistan's intervention is UN sanctionned.

    PS: The Talibans did far worser than this....FAR worser.  Our troops are doing the best they can, and we have the moral obligation to applaud and support them.  I see the Canadians soldiers been injured and my resolve only increase.  More troops should be sent there.

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  • HocheteHochete Member CommonPosts: 1,210
    lol

  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953

    Come on guys this is Democrats we are talking about here.  Their ultimate goal is to gain majority political power here, and will do anything to accomplish it. 

    Come on guys this is Terrorists we are talking about here.  Their ultimate goal is to gain global domination, and will do anything to accomplish it.

  • viadiviadi Member Posts: 816

     "6.43" into the movie was that osma bin laden?

    go look for your self  

    Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy

  • stanfinkstanfink Member Posts: 48
    nuke the entire middle east. its one big shithole
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