soo whats exactly wrong with it?

tvalentine · July 2006

im thinking of buying it ..... please dont type up a paragraph of bugs and ect just somethin like this, easy and simple

EXAMPLe

1: lagg- horrible just like SWG:NGE Lag

2: loggin issues- always get disconnected

3: no animal spawns: how can you lvl without em?

(yeah ive read some posts, but if these are the only 3 wrong ...... then it cant be that bad.)

Virtus · July 2006

for a 100% accurate answer I would suggest just reading the RV forums. Alot of people are biased one way or the other and will only post thier opinion. A true answer can only be made by yourself.

tvalentine · July 2006

im talking about bugs, not just peoples opinions about the game, like the 3 examples, Those are bugs!

duncan_922 · July 2006

tvalentine... Since I know you from the SWG forums, I'll just say this. Think SWG... Only that this is a 3 weeks old game!

-Lack of content - Almost no quests

-Lag

Now don't get me wrong. I'm so far liking the game because it's full of potential and complexity. It just needs time! The devs really do respond and there are improvements daily.

Kelkyen · July 2006

I think I could best sum it up with..."Roma Victor.exe has encountered a problem, and needs to close."...about 10 seconds after logging in.

It also took 6 login attempts to get in game for that.

Not everyone has that problem. Some players can get in game and stay online for hours, but I am not one of them. Most evenings I try to login 2-3 times, and often give up after 15 minutes. I havn't been able to stay in game more than a few minutes when I do get in. CTD or lockups are common, when you can connect to the server.

Like many others, I have high hopes this game works out. I really want to play.

caine6621 · July 2006

Originally posted by Kelkyen
I think I could best sum it up with..."Roma Victor.exe has encountered a problem, and needs to close."...about 10 seconds after logging in.

It also took 6 login attempts to get in game for that.

Not everyone has that problem. Some players can get in game and stay online for hours, but I am not one of them. Most evenings I try to login 2-3 times, and often give up after 15 minutes. I havn't been able to stay in game more than a few minutes when I do get in. CTD or lockups are common, when you can connect to the server.

Like many others, I have high hopes this game works out. I really want to play.

I have that problem too. The game is so laggy and buggy that I am leaving it alone for now.

Virtus · July 2006

thus why i said read up and make your own opinion

EDIT:

Not saying anything is wrong, just that its a little over bored with the facts.

MW2K · July 2006

Originally posted by Virtus

thus why i said read up and make your own opinionEDIT:Not saying anything is wrong, just that its a little over bored with the facts.

Freudian slip there, Virtus?

tvalentine · July 2006

Originally posted by duncan_922
tvalentine... Since I know you from the SWG forums, I'll just say this. Think SWG... Only that this is a 3 weeks old game!

-Lack of content - Almost no quests

-Lag

Now don't get me wrong. I'm so far liking the game because it's full of potential and complexity. It just needs time! The devs really do respond and there are improvements daily.

so pretty much wait a month or 2 before playin??

siredmond · July 2006

Originally posted by duncan_922

tvalentine... Since I know you from the SWG forums, I'll just say this. Think SWG... Only that this is a 3 weeks old game!

-Lack of content - Almost no quests

-Lag

Now don't get me wrong. I'm so far liking the game because it's full of potential and complexity. It just needs time! The devs really do respond and there are improvements daily.

Since when are quests the only Content? If you think the number of quests dictate how much content there is buddy, then this game is not for you.

As for the month or two wait, the only diffrence will be the time you loose which you could train your character in some of the crafting skills.

tvalentine · July 2006

Originally posted by siredmond

Originally posted by duncan_922
tvalentine... Since I know you from the SWG forums, I'll just say this. Think SWG... Only that this is a 3 weeks old game!

-Lack of content - Almost no quests

-Lag

Now don't get me wrong. I'm so far liking the game because it's full of potential and complexity. It just needs time! The devs really do respond and there are improvements daily.

Since when are quests the only Content? If you think the number of quests dictate how much content there is buddy, then this game is not for you.

As for the month or two wait, the only diffrence will be the time you loose which you could train your character in some of the crafting skills.

so your saying there not going to fix the lag or any other issues in 1-2 months?

and you dont have to be so rude, i mean im sure there is more to the lack of content statement. Like in a few posts ive read, about the no animal spawns.

caine6621 · July 2006

Quests aren't the only content a game requires. But since this game comes with a pathetic excuse for a manual (player developed, who's f***ing idea was that) content is really the only way to learn to play the game.

siredmond · July 2006

Originally posted by tvalentine

so your saying there not going to fix the lag or any other issues in 1-2 months?
and you dont have to be so rude, i mean im sure there is more to the lack of content statement. Like in a few posts ive read, about the no animal spawns.

The Lag issue hasnt stopped me from playin the game and training my characters skills so far. But thats whyat I mean. Not that they arnt gonna fix things, and allow us to craft more things.

As for spawns, Its due to the fact that they will never have static spawns for wildlife. Probable because the system has yet to be fully implemented. And remember animals, unless they are domesticated will never infest and area like they do in WoW.

duncan_922 · July 2006

Originally posted by siredmond

Originally posted by duncan_922

tvalentine... Since I know you from the SWG forums, I'll just say this. Think SWG... Only that this is a 3 weeks old game!

-Lack of content - Almost no quests

-Lag

Now don't get me wrong. I'm so far liking the game because it's full of potential and complexity. It just needs time! The devs really do respond and there are improvements daily.

Since when are quests the only Content? If you think the number of quests dictate how much content there is buddy, then this game is not for you.

As for the month or two wait, the only diffrence will be the time you loose which you could train your character in some of the crafting skills.

And where do I say that quest are the only content???? Hell!!! If you give me a good sanbox game with only a tutorial I'd be a happy man. I'm only giving examples of what's wrong...

siredmond · July 2006

Then they are bad examples

Adamczyk · July 2006

I really dont find anything wrong with the game. There is lag problems at around 3:00 to 7:00... After that, I usually get almost no lag at all. I have fun playing the game, I have been raiding... Training my skills, there is a few glitches but they dont really bother me.

Its like all MMORPG's, they all have a pretty rocky release.

ceacar99 · July 2006

ok, ive been exited about this game for a while and i wanted to write a professional level review for the game here but i dont have high enough rank so ill post my findings here.

Roma victor is an ambitious project, when complete it will allow players to do allot. supposedly you can even rise to the rank of emporer, currently thats far off. they have yet to inpliment ranged weapons, horses, brewing and a few other features. however right now its a pretty interesting game and for the monthly price it promises to be good(escpecially considering that if you become a finantial genius you dont need to put any more money into the game).

lets start with what everyone is talking about, the down points. roma victor is a project run by a small overworked team with few assets at hand. the engine is from scratch. currently people complain about some of the problems in the graphics but the graphics arent horrid. the terraign needs more detail, the players are low poly(the textures are pretty good) and they dont use any "fast grass" so the landscape can seem bare but its an ok start. the low point graphics wise is something called a skybox, youll reconise it as the backdrop. thats the picture behind the picture so to speak, currently in roma victor the player gets a nice view of some hills and low mountains all around him, the problem is that the skybox isnt particuarlly high reselution and with current technology the dev team could have easaly added an inpressive 3d "skybox" system.

early on the game had issues with connecting and lag. right now the issue is just connecting. i played ALL day today and experienced only a 15 minute period of high lag, right now things respond almost instantly, a good inprovement of the way it used to be and a sign of good things to come. the problem is actually getting in game. often players will try to sign in to be basically rejected by the server over and over. i have had few issues witht aht and more trying to just find a way to get the game to load fully, i could input commands but not play. i wound up having to commit suicide and restart the game, after that no more issues there. in some wilderness zones there are also problems with connection, players will find that they just cannot stay connected in those zones for some reason.

STEEP learning curve. this is a game that has no in game tutorial to speak of, it can be frustrating at first but ive worked with steep learning curve games before, like ww2online(not quite an rpg but oh well) and eve online. the community realy pulls together in this aspect and you will almost never find yourself alone when you are in need. however starting off you have a serries of "quests" that are designed to help you learn the game. the reality is that they just have you do things and dont realy teach jack.

despite these failings roma victor redeems itself through a few areas, these pieces of gold make me believe that over time roma victor will inprove and become a good product for anyone to buy, not just the hardcore gamer like it is currently.

the first place that the game redeems itself is the player wiki. i wish every mmorpg had one of these. some people may laugh at a "player made manual" but in the end the players learn the game better than the devs. most game manuals ive read are almost pointless, they are simplistic and dont cover much. roma victor's wiki will cover almost everything you could ever want to know about the game. the wiki is continually updated(unlike most "manuals") and has all sorts of things that NEVER wind up in normal game manuals. have a question about just terminology in game? use the wiki search engine! dont know how to make an item? search the wiki. its an incredibly powerfull tool and it helps the community work together instead of bickering. in fact in roma victor for realism you dont have a map, but if you realy get lost you can check the wiki for a couple player made maps and find your way around(one even includes the "board" wich shows when you will cross over to a new zone)

the second place it redeems itself is the sheer ammount of potential it has. right now the ammount of things you can craft can seem astronomical, however they arent even a 10th of what the full system will likely have. an example is right now i believe you can only build roundhouses, the plan in the future is to allow players to have villa and pretty much any building they want that would have shown up in the ancient world. players currently can do alot of things, including farming. the very project itself is continually being updated and there will be more content added over time, though i dont believe much will show up in the form of quests.

the game's combat system is also refreshing. in other rpgs you just click attack and you watch your character swat away. in rv tactics come into play alot more, fighting is just something that both your character in game and you yourself learn in roma victor. a skilled low level player can do pretty good against every oponent(though a higher level still will kick serious ass). when missle weapons get included the combat will be pretty damn inpressive.

overall i will give the game a 6. potentially it can earn a 9 or a 10. however right now it needs alot of work and it has to make that long treck to the top of the list. roma victor's staff is one of the most dedicated teams ive seen and they allready have realy gotten to work. they have fixed alot of the issues in lag, every day the logins get better, in game bugs decreese and overall things get better. they do need to spend some time and effort upgrading the sounds(its a real let down) and fixing some graphical annomilies.

-bottom line-

if you arent hardcore and willing to "work" dont buy the game now. wait a year, then buy it. by then alot of the major kinks will have been worked out and the game will have gotten on the highway to sucess and got the game acellerating in progress

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acmtalk · August 2006

I had high hopes for this game, But the devs seemed to have made the worse mistake: realease the game before its done!!! , Bugs/lag it's all part of a realease of any mmo, But lack of skills, animals, NPC that are named with numbers etc..., Thats just beeing lazy in my book. I will wait a few months, and if there is a free trial, I will see for myself..

Loona35 · August 2006

ok here some nice points...

- Lag... servers can't handle it
- Engine... this game uses a higher % of your CPU and memory then WoW while the graphics look 10 years old.
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- Empty world.. the world is simply empty! In total 2 small dead settlements and a forest.

- Terrain.. the terrain is built up from flat green textures. Simply flat ground textures for LONG distances.

- Vigiour.. its sorta stamina.. your energy bar. It takes so much energy to walk you can hardly walk 1km when you start the game. What has that guy been doing his whole life before you started playing? And you cannot talk either when resting 'coz that takes to much enegry. So when you've to run longs distances (you've coz everything is far away like clay pits) ... you've to rest a lot and you cannot talk to your mates 'coz that would take lots of energy away.

- bugs.. the game is still full of bugs. Fanboys say thats no problem.. they're patient. Decide for yourself.. do you wanna pay for something on which everyone agrees isn't finished yet? Even the fanboys agree it isn't finished.

- fanboys.. only guys who play it seem to be fanboys.. all they say is "the devteam only exists outta 3 or 4 persons so therefor the game isnt that good yet but it will be!" .. the game hasnt been good for years of devolpment i don't know why it should be better in 3 months? The facts the devs are only with couple guys doenst make a game good. I would rather sponsor the Red Cross 20 bucks then the devs.

- No free trial.. good games have free trials.. RV is so bad it hasn't a free trial.

- Fighting.. they state on their website this game has a advanced fighting system and you can fight in huge battles. Nothing is true of that. They just fixed the collisionbug.. when i played you could simply walk trough others, whats the use of a formation then? There are no missions and the couple NPC guards seem to be pretty über warriors. The NPC's dont seem to have vigiour? 'coz you will probally have the change to hit them twice (takes about 20% vigiour total) but when they hit you it also takes vigiour (and wounds). Besides.. the server and engine can't handle to many players so big battles are just a dream.

- heaven...they call it elysium or something.. i call it crap! if you end up in heaven you've to walk up a hill to some guy and talk to him. Then you're teleported back to earth. But don't forget! you've just been slain and with a bit of unluck you will have stamina wounds. And with stamine wounds you can only walk 100 meters LOL. Think of that.. you've to walk up that hill with stamina wounds.. then you've to walk all the freaking way back to your villages with the same wounds. then heal (takes a lotta time!) ... AAAaaah.. die and wait for freaking half a day before fighting again. Thats no fun for no one.

- crafting...seems the only good thing about RV is the stuff you can craft. But crafting is boring and hardcore. You've to walk for ages to get to rivers and claypits etc. Then ofcourse there are no carts so you've to carry it yourself which means you can only take about 30 clay per run. Creating a simple claypile right next to a pit takes 40-60 minutes.

- almost everything the main site states is a big fat lie.. check the forum good. The reason so many are complaining is not for fun.

- this list can be endless

wild_child9 · August 2006

Originally posted by Loona35
ok here some nice points...

- Lag... servers can't handle it
- Engine... this game uses a higher % of your CPU and memory then WoW while the graphics look 10 years old.
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- Empty world.. the world is simply empty! In total 2 small dead settlements and a forest.

- Terrain.. the terrain is built up from flat green textures. Simply flat ground textures for LONG distances.

- Vigiour.. its sorta stamina.. your energy bar. It takes so much energy to walk you can hardly walk 1km when you start the game. What has that guy been doing his whole life before you started playing? And you cannot talk either when resting 'coz that takes to much enegry. So when you've to run longs distances (you've coz everything is far away like clay pits) ... you've to rest a lot and you cannot talk to your mates 'coz that would take lots of energy away.

- bugs.. the game is still full of bugs. Fanboys say thats no problem.. they're patient. Decide for yourself.. do you wanna pay for something on which everyone agrees isn't finished yet? Even the fanboys agree it isn't finished.

- fanboys.. only guys who play it seem to be fanboys.. all they say is "the devteam only exists outta 3 or 4 persons so therefor the game isnt that good yet but it will be!" .. the game hasnt been good for years of devolpment i don't know why it should be better in 3 months? The facts the devs are only with couple guys doenst make a game good. I would rather sponsor the Red Cross 20 bucks then the devs.

- No free trial.. good games have free trials.. RV is so bad it hasn't a free trial.

- Fighting.. they state on their website this game has a advanced fighting system and you can fight in huge battles. Nothing is true of that. They just fixed the collisionbug.. when i played you could simply walk trough others, whats the use of a formation then? There are no missions and the couple NPC guards seem to be pretty über warriors. The NPC's dont seem to have vigiour? 'coz you will probally have the change to hit them twice (takes about 20% vigiour total) but when they hit you it also takes vigiour (and wounds). Besides.. the server and engine can't handle to many players so big battles are just a dream.

- heaven...they call it elysium or something.. i call it crap! if you end up in heaven you've to walk up a hill to some guy and talk to him. Then you're teleported back to earth. But don't forget! you've just been slain and with a bit of unluck you will have stamina wounds. And with stamine wounds you can only walk 100 meters LOL. Think of that.. you've to walk up that hill with stamina wounds.. then you've to walk all the freaking way back to your villages with the same wounds. then heal (takes a lotta time!) ... AAAaaah.. die and wait for freaking half a day before fighting again. Thats no fun for no one.

- crafting...seems the only good thing about RV is the stuff you can craft. But crafting is boring and hardcore. You've to walk for ages to get to rivers and claypits etc. Then ofcourse there are no carts so you've to carry it yourself which means you can only take about 30 clay per run. Creating a simple claypile right next to a pit takes 40-60 minutes.

- almost everything the main site states is a big fat lie.. check the forum good. The reason so many are complaining is not for fun.

- this list can be endless

- There is not much lag anymore as the devs have been fixing the problems that were causing it

-Well I have no problem with the graphics :P

-There are more settlements and forests, but I don't think any players live in them yet.

-The empty flat terrain is likely to benefit players because you need flat empty spaces to build on and players will soon be building towns.

- It gets easier as you get better at marching and distance running (which isn't actually very hard to do). And talking doesnt take lots of energy it sometimes takes a tiny scootch of it!

-Devs are working on getting those fixed.

-Since when are only games with free trials good??LOL

- The server engine not holding a lot of players is related to the server tracking problems which the devs are working on getting fixed. Infact a lot of improvement has been made since you last played.

- Its called ELysium because it isn't heaven. Elysium is the underworld which romans would have believed in at that time (they didn't just make it up!). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium . And wounds take about 45 minutes to fully heal, not half a day.

- In the roman town the claypits are right beside the town (...i dont know where you were walking to lol...) and theres plently of rivers everywhere.

Kelkyen · August 2006

Originally posted by Kelkyen
I think I could best sum it up with..."Roma Victor.exe has encountered a problem, and needs to close."...about 10 seconds after logging in.

It also took 6 login attempts to get in game for that.

Not everyone has that problem. Some players can get in game and stay online for hours, but I am not one of them. Most evenings I try to login 2-3 times, and often give up after 15 minutes. I havn't been able to stay in game more than a few minutes when I do get in. CTD or lockups are common, when you can connect to the server.

Like many others, I have high hopes this game works out. I really want to play.

Update: I have finally had 2 good days of play. While I did have some minor ctd's the first 15 minutes or so, the 4th time I stayed in game over an hour. Minor lag spikes lasting 15 - 45 seconds. The next day I stayed in almost 3-4 hours before I logged off, and had no ctd's and only twice had 5-10 seconds of lag. I am unsure if the reduced lag and ctd's are due to something the dev's did or the fact that players seem spread out over the map more, perhaps a little of both.

Ok, this news isn't worth any awards, but its a good sign.

Jorev · August 2006

And what exciting things did you do during this extended playtime?

What exotic locations did you uncover? Did you explore bustling urban centers and engage a variety of NPCs for trade and information about the surrounding world? Which beasts did you slay? How many foes did you vanquish? Or did you just build clay piles?

Slickinfinit · August 2006

Originally posted by Jorev

And what exciting things did you do during this extended playtime?
What exotic locations did you uncover? Did you explore bustling urban centers and engage a variety of NPCs for trade and information about the surrounding world? Which beasts did you slay? How many foes did you vanquish? Or did you just build clay piles?

You really fail to see the point of the game, if building clay piles for the first few weeks or so and making all the basic stuff needed to get a virtual world going will take patience and work. The game is progressing and the small dev team is working their asses off to fix problems that occur and since they didnt add static spawns and hand spoon fed content only really dedicated people with alot of patience and good problem solving skills will make this work. They said a few times this game is not for everyone and I really havnt heard of any mmo ever made with these features so I say give em time and the fact they dont charge monthly makes is easier to bear with the early stages of what is possibly going to be a very awsome online world. I played SWG for 2 years with all the bugs and rubberband lagspikes and enjoyed it greatly until the NGE so as long as the RB devs keep it real and sanboxed they will have their dedicated fanbase.

wild_child9 · August 2006

Originally posted by Jorev

And what exciting things did you do during this extended playtime?
What exotic locations did you uncover? Did you explore bustling urban centers and engage a variety of NPCs for trade and information about the surrounding world? Which beasts did you slay? How many foes did you vanquish? Or did you just build clay piles?

What are you talking about???:P You can uncover locations, explore, trade and slay beasts if you want to. You can also build clay piles if thats what you feel like doing but you shouldn't say "just" building clay piles, some people want to build them!:P

Jorev · August 2006

Originally posted by wild_child9

What are you talking about???:P You can uncover locations, explore, trade and slay beasts if you want to. You can also build clay piles if thats what you feel like doing but you shouldn't say "just" building clay piles, some people want to build them!:P

Oh I know, I was just curious what he did when he finally was able to log on for a couple hours. He must of been excited about being able to start on his clay piles.:P

I saw this player the other day, he had the best looking clay pile, it was impressive, and it only took him 8 hours to build.:P

Kelkyen · August 2006

Originally posted by Jorev
Oh I know, I was just curious what he did when he finally was able to log on for a couple hours. He must of been excited about being able to start on his clay piles.:P
I saw this player the other day, he had the best looking clay pile, it was impressive, and it only took him 8 hours to build.:P

Well, as a poor Greek slave studing to be a medicus and owned by a Roman master, I was ordered to collect firewood for him. As I didn't want to be whipped, I set about this task. Its hungry work hauling firewood, so I collected some apples and sipped from the southern branch of the river. When I finished collecting the firewood I limped back to my master.

I was limping because it seems I forgot how to walk on the salveship from Greece. I can only go a couple blocks before I tire.

Now, having completed that adventure, I set of for the baths for a quick dip and scrape. A clean body for a clean mind to better serve my master. Returning to my master, he demanded to be fed a fresh fish fillet. I briskly hobbled down to the river with my spear and never caught a thing. Realizing my spear was getting pretty torn up by missing fish and prolly hitting fishshaped rocks at the river edge, I found a grindstone and repaired it. On my way back to the river I found a fillet of fish just sitting on the side of the road. No one seems to be near it...What luck! After brushing it off I served it up to master. He loved it, and even gave me 24 sesterces. He's such a good master.

After that brilliant display of my fishing abilities, master asked that I make him a...you guessed it...a pile of clay. What joy! I set off for the river edge, in search of clay wads to start my pile with.

My adventure will continue later today.

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