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biorottbiorott Member UncommonPosts: 17

Ok, we all know the meeting between LA and the ducks.

It was to talk about what legal battles are about to happen. The ducks will fight this one in court as they believe they have done nothing wrong. LA is just protecting thier property.

Ducks: Hope you don't go to jail.

LA: Get SOE to resign

SoE: Give us pre-cu to save your game.

That is all

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  • milton1970milton1970 Member Posts: 347

    who the hell is going to pay the legal bills against SOE?

    Good luck the mighty ducks

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by milton1970

    who the hell is going to pay the legal bills against SOE?

    Good luck the mighty ducks


    It's not SOE, it's LAE from what I heard it's in the "discovery phase"

    Quote from a friend who is part of the project

    What’s involved is:
    Business interests/Copyrights
    Trademarks/Service marks and patents


    First one, is just good business sense, are we getting screwed? Is someone trying to profit from our work?

    Second one, the LAW forces you to execute a "investigation" to verify that your Intellectual property is not being infringed in your TM/SM/Patent, because if you do not, when you do want the protection the law offers you from your TM/SM/Patent the case can be lost if you are found being selective in your "investigations" of any infringements.

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  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846

    It is true that you have to move on possible copyright infringements.  If you don't then you can end up unable to protect your product.  That was part of why Mythic sued Microsoft over the Mythica game.

    I think for this project they could argue under the Fair Use laws pretty easy.  They aren't using this for a commercial product.. and can claim everything they are doing is part of an educational project and nothing more.

    Since they aren't running servers.. or charging for a service etc etc.

    Just depends on how much money you want to make someone waste in court.

  • Wind'ChillyWind'Chilly Member Posts: 22
    SOE wont do anything to the  so called "Ducks" because they know they cannot win, First off pre-cu is not availible for play anymore, 2nd they will be fightign for such sall amounts they will lsoe more money then they gain.  and 3rd there is not charging for the servers

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by Wind'Chilly
    SOE wont do anything to the  so called "Ducks" because they know they cannot win, First off pre-cu is not availible for play anymore, 2nd they will be fightign for such sall amounts they will lsoe more money then they gain.  and 3rd there is not charging for the servers


    SOE and LAE have yet to state their position on this. But if you read above the law may force them to make a move on them (duck team). Lets just hope this wont become another Napster, I would hate to see them start going after individual users as well.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by Wind'Chilly
    SOE wont do anything to the  so called "Ducks" because they know they cannot win, First off pre-cu is not availible for play anymore, 2nd they will be fightign for such sall amounts they will lsoe more money then they gain.  and 3rd there is not charging for the servers

    Also this has nothing to do with games, SOE pre cu or anything BUT the intellectual property that is Star Wars and it’s charactors, places, items ect ect. This is a bit different situation than the little WoW, UO, and so on emus out there. Recreating something someone else made with copyrighted characters like "A Stormtrooper" or "Darth Vader" in it is still infringement.

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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
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  • Zuel41Zuel41 Member Posts: 43


    Originally posted by Wind'Chilly
    SOE wont do anything to the  so called "Ducks" because they know they cannot win, First off pre-cu is not availible for play anymore, 2nd they will be fightign for such sall amounts they will lsoe more money then they gain.  and 3rd there is not charging for the servers



    Oftentimes its not about winning, but driving your opponent bankrupt.  Lawyers cost money, sometimes lots and lots of it.  LA or SoE have attorneys that are on payroll just to deal with these kinds of issues.  Soe and LA will attain their goal of stopping "the ducks" by burying them in legal fees and costs.  Unless, and this is a big one, "the ducks" are outside of the USA.  Even if they are outside the USA, the laws of that country may apply and huge corporations like LA and SoE have the resources to deal with those issues on that level. 

    Just remember, your rights are as good as the money you want to spend to enforce them. 
  • kefkahkefkah Member UncommonPosts: 832

    If memory serves me and I know it does - you were the bait for that wild night of pranks last Friday. Post count 6 and several are now gone. The only other remaining one was the prank that led people to flood a certain emu irc room looking for information that wasn't there.

    Keep your false rumors and ploys to yourself. I can only assume that your ban is up and thats why you are back.

  • SirDiesalotSirDiesalot Member Posts: 12
    What? The Emu uses no copyrited property. The Emu is just a server, all the information for Luke, Darth and all other things that are copyrited are in the client, which the Emu doesn't modify or distribute.

    I answer rehtorical questions.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by kefkah

    If memory serves me and I know it does - you were the bait for that wild night of pranks last Friday. Post count 6 and several are now gone. The only other remaining one was the prank that led people to flood a certain emu irc room looking for information that wasn't there.
    Keep your false rumors and ploys to yourself. I can only assume that your ban is up and thats why you are back.


    He's not full of it, LAE have been in contact with them over the Intellectual property that is Star Wars. All companies with large brands do this type of thing. Read back thru this whole thread. What you choose to believe is up to you but I know what is really going on and I guess all you can do is wait and see yourself.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by SirDiesalot
    What? The Emu uses no copyrited property. The Emu is just a server, all the information for Luke, Darth and all other things that are copyrited are in the client, which the Emu doesn't modify or distribute.

    again, all companies have to do this

    What’s involved is:
    Business interests/Copyrights
    Trademarks/Service marks and patents


    First one, is just good business sense, are we getting screwed? Is someone trying to profit from our work?

    Second one, the LAW forces you to execute a "investigation" to verify that your Intellectual property is not being infringed in your TM/SM/Patent, because if you do not, when you do want the protection the law offers you from your TM/SM/Patent the case can be lost if you are found being selective in your "investigations" of any infringements.

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  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by kefkah

    If memory serves me and I know it does - you were the bait for that wild night of pranks last Friday. Post count 6 and several are now gone. The only other remaining one was the prank that led people to flood a certain emu irc room looking for information that wasn't there.
    Keep your false rumors and ploys to yourself. I can only assume that your ban is up and thats why you are back.

    He's not full of it, LAE have been in contact with them over the Intellectual property that is Star Wars. All companies with large brands do this type of thing. Read back thru this whole thread. What you choose to believe is up to you but I know what is really going on and I guess all you can do is wait and see yourself.


    No...He/she, more than likely, is totally full of it.
    "It", being shit.

    Wasn't it just a week ago that he posted that official pre-cu servers are coming up? So, to believe this would also make that believable as well?
    It's simply speculation on everyone's part. The only ones that really know what is happening are the emudevs and LA/SOE.

    Until I hear something meaningful from one of these three parties, I am just assuming that everything else is purely speculation.

    Love, Sodapop

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by kefkah

    If memory serves me and I know it does - you were the bait for that wild night of pranks last Friday. Post count 6 and several are now gone. The only other remaining one was the prank that led people to flood a certain emu irc room looking for information that wasn't there.
    Keep your false rumors and ploys to yourself. I can only assume that your ban is up and thats why you are back.

    He's not full of it, LAE have been in contact with them over the Intellectual property that is Star Wars. All companies with large brands do this type of thing. Read back thru this whole thread. What you choose to believe is up to you but I know what is really going on and I guess all you can do is wait and see yourself.


    No...He/she, more than likely, is totally full of it.
    "It", being shit.

    Wasn't it just a week ago that he posted that official pre-cu servers are coming up? So, to believe this would also make that believable as well?
    It's simply speculation on everyone's part. The only ones that really know what is happening are the emudevs and LA/SOE.

    Until I hear something meaningful from one of these three parties, I am just assuming that everything else is purely speculation.


    Well I did, but I won't link outside these forums.
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  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by tillamook

    Until I hear something meaningful from one of these three parties, I am just assuming that everything else is purely speculation.

    Well I did, but I won't link outside these forums.



    Everyone seems to have these anonymous sources but me!

    Love, Sodapop

  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Until I hear something meaningful from one of these three parties, I am just assuming that everything else is purely speculation.

    Well I did, but I won't link outside these forums.



    Everyone seems to have these anonymous sources but me!

    Those voices in your head work just as well.
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Originally posted by tillamook

    Until I hear something meaningful from one of these three parties, I am just assuming that everything else is purely speculation.

    Well I did, but I won't link outside these forums.



    Everyone seems to have these anonymous sources but me!

    He's not very anonymous, but if you look around you might be able to get the site where we talked about it. I just happen to believe him over any other thing I have read.
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