will be moderated. EI Horizons Forums are provided in support and for
Subscriber Community.
the further developement and promotion of Horizons and its community.
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Additionally, the goodbye and rant sections have been removed. The also intend to impliment the forums so that only active subs can submit posts to be reviewed before posting. Here is the IRC log courtesy of Imayo.
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... = non-game related chat cut out [15:52] <@DANU_EI> E I team
have been working hard to get billing and customer service into
shape....I hope the outcome will be good for all players when concluded
sorry ithas taken so long…[15:53] <Imayo> Danu: will we once again be able to add additional subscriptions to the same account?[15:53] <@DANU_EI> aye you will be abel toadd as before…[15:57] <Khoal> DANU, will EI keep TG's policy of not deleting character data if the sub runs out?[15:58] <@DANU_EI> Aye our policy has always been and will continue to be to never wipe chars….[16:16] * Peaches sets mode: +m
[16:16] <
@Peaches> ok any questions please send me pm and I will post them
[16:17] <
@DANU_EI> Frid try not to be rude....the point is
historically there was only one person able to do maintenance and
repair servers, now there are tow
[16:17] <
@Peaches> danu they cannot respond in here to you now,
so I have asked them to field questions to me, they can see us type
[16:17] <
@DANU_EI> Unix is a new opportunity for Jeff to grow ,
this make s happy employees , he also can go ski with greater freedoma
nd less risk to servers'
[16:18] * Hal`cyon is now known as Hal|Muted
[16:18] * Khoal is now known as Khoal|silenced
[16:18] <
@DANU_EI> Khoal a new confectioner fix was agreeed upon
by David and I last week when I was in Phoenix it is a priority
[16:19] * Hal|Muted is now known as Hal|CantDoConfWOSimChanges
[16:19] * Hal|CantDoConfWOSimChanges is now known as Hal|CantDoSimChangesWOAdrian
[16:19] <
@DANU_EI> Guys I want to communicate ....but silenced means you arent trying
[16:19] <
@Peaches> danu they cant talk, I moderated the rooom
[16:19] <
@DANU_EI> I am sure I missed a few inquiries
[16:19] * Lex is now known as LexWeDIdNotChooseToBESIlenced
[16:20] * Khoal|silenced is now known as Khoal|gagged
[16:20] <
@DANU_EI> ok so I wish to listen
[16:20] * Hal|CantDoSimChangesWOAdrian is now known as Hal`cyon
[16:20] <
@Peaches> they have to field their questions to me and I can post for you to answer
[16:20] <
@DANU_EI> but i type slowly like an old guy
[16:20] <
@DANU_EI> ok
[16:20] <
@Peaches> here is your first question
[16:20] <
@DANU_EI> fire questions
[16:20] <
@Peaches> *Lex* Does the statement that you have more
than one game mean that Horizons has no special priority in your agenda?
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[16:22] <
@DANU_EI> lex if you have read my posts yo would know
that I love the Horizons game and its potential personally, from a
business standpoint it is job one......the unix platform is th ereason
Hal needed to understandthat we have a need for unix and windows
[16:22] <
@DANU_EI> methinks we go to ventrillo I speak much faster than type
[16:22] <
@Peaches> please indicate done too danu, so I can post the next question
[16:22] <
@DANU_EI> doen
[16:23] <
@Peaches> *Hal`cyon* How will the game be developed when
the most experienced developer only worked for Tulga remotely for about
a month?
[16:23] <
@DANU_EI> Hal as my kids can be assumptive so are you
[16:23] * LexWeDIdNotChooseToBESIlenced is now known as Lex
[16:24] * Hal`cyon is now known as Hal|SpeaksWithTheOldTeamDaily
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@Peaches> any more questions?
[16:24] <
@DANU_EI> The game development process will be moved
forward with a lot of discipline by a team that will be interested in
long term employment and contractors who will support them if they need
to grow
[16:26] <
@Peaches> Lex* Danu, will we see a more definitve
locationo for inofrmation from the developers and owners, such as the
login page or launcher?
[16:26] <
@DANU_EI> One of the changes a number of players and dev
staff have suggested is a reworking of forums and concentration of
threads in an easier to ue fashion
[16:27] <
@DANU_EI> forum membership will be for subscribers only going forward so the input is by people who
have a stake in the game and truly care
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[16:27] * Hal|SpeaksWithTheOldTeamDaily is now known as Hal|WhatAboutPotentialPlayersA
[16:27] * Hal|WhatAboutPotentialPlayersA is now known as Hal|AskingQuestions
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@Peaches> hal send in questions to me please
[16:28] <
@Peaches> ready for next question danu?
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@Peaches> ok posting next question
[16:29] <
@Peaches> *Soresha* hi Peaches, can you ask Danu what
progress has been made towards an agreement with GN? folks on Unity
want to know what's happening
[16:29] <
@DANU_EI> aye'
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@DANU_EI> Sor amongst the joy of billing, I have had a dialogue with GN
[16:30] <
@DANU_EI> I have comeforward with a fresh proposal and hope to build a relationship a new
[16:31] <
@DANU_EI> Being a creative sort, which you would only
understand if you knew the whole story of Horizons acquisition
[16:31] <
@DANU_EI> I have tried a number of avenues to work with Digital Brothers
[16:31] <
@DANU_EI> Unfortunately,
[16:32] <
@DANU_EI> there is a lot of history that they need to cope with,
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[16:33] <
@Peaches> ok another question
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@Peaches> *Cerjar* now that the Evolution Engine is
still in the hands of Tulga, how will new features that need
improvement in this engine be developed? will Tulga do these stuff?
[16:34] <
@DANU_EI> The future status of the engine ownership is
not clear, however we are excited to work with Ricka nd his group for
special engine modifications as necessary
[16:35] <
@DANU_EI> clearly
[16:35] <
@DANU_EI> if the engine is not being maintained for any reason we have rights to hire others to work source code
[16:35] <
@DANU_EI> done
[16:35] <
@Peaches> *Frid`s-laptop* Does that mean all existing
forum accounts will be dissabled then membership will be automatic
based on account logins?
[16:37] * Brothers_Chap is now known as Plink
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@DANU_EI> Frid the details of how that will be done have
not been set....if you have ideas tell dark or peaches and they will
get them to right team member
[16:37] <
@Peaches> *Warsong* With the Forums being People who
truly care about the game only wouldnt that be like Burning Books you
only get one side of the story?
[16:38] <
@DANU_EI> warsong I loved asherons call and logged into the forum rarely
[16:38] * Plink is now known as Plink|Appauds[16:39] <@DANU_EI> I think
the forums today are populated by a lot of people with mixed agendas
and upset, some real concern and some imagined, I wish to have all
sides of the story[16:39] <@DANU_EI> however[16:39] * Hal|AskingQuestions is now known as Hal|Concerned[16:39] <@DANU_EI> if someone does not play the game[16:39] <@DANU_EI> like many consultants on the boards[16:40] <@DANU_EI> their voice is not as important as those who play[16:40] <@DANU_EI> done [16:40] <@Peaches> *Lex* How long was the Horizons acquition in a planning stage?[16:40] * dYn|wertzui has joined #Horizons[16:40] <@DANU_EI> does hal have questions [16:40] <@Peaches> chekcing the list now[16:40] <@DANU_EI> I was first approached at E3[16:40] <@Peaches> yes I have one[16:41] <@DANU_EI> the sale and circumstances of the situation were a bit odd[16:41] * maiyr is now known as potential_sub|unimportant_voic[16:41] <@DANU_EI> but I saw
such great potential that I took a very aggressivve stance to do things
that were undoable in many eyes[16:41] <@Peaches> please stop changing nicks[16:42] <@DANU_EI> doen[16:42] <@Peaches>
*Hal|AskingQuestions* Did you notify the people who's credit card
numbers were compromised by the old billing form that posted them to a
publically accessable text file?[16:42] <@DANU_EI> potential subs can read not post in may game forums[16:42] * Fidri has quit IRC (Quit: )[16:43] * dYn|wertzui has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer)[16:43] <@DANU_EI> Hal we are
communicating in multiple channels with all subscribers who have been
in billing maintenance in one way or another[16:44] * Hal|Concerned is now known as Hal|SoNoThen-Sigh[16:44] <@Peaches> hal please stop changing nick[16:45] <@DANU_EI> Hal You have made a few assumptions and not listened maybe you should try a direct dialogue [16:45] * Khoal|hearscrickets is now known as Khoal|lastnickIswear[16:45] * Hal|SoNoThen-Sigh is now known as Hal|CantTalkModeM[16:45] <@Peaches> *Imayo* If they cannot post in the forums, then how are they supposed to get their questions answered?[16:45] <@DANU_EI> answer is yes [16:46] <@DANU_EI> hal the timing of each email tro each person is not here on my desk[16:46] <@DANU_EI> mabe you do not understand roles in organizations, hopefully you will learn manners[16:46] <@DANU_EI> doen[16:47] <@Peaches>
*Solanaceae* Danu, will Unity subscribers still be able to post on the
forums, given that the Unity subscriber database is property of GN?[16:47] <@DANU_EI> I have asked Luca how he would like to handle that and need to respect his wishes[16:47] <@DANU_EI> done[16:47] <@Peaches> *Warsong*
Based on your response to my first question would you be eliminating
the possible returning player or new Sub by keeping them out of the
forums?[16:48] <@DANU_EI> I hope we will allow new subs or returning players an avenue for communication [16:48] <@Peaches> any more questions?[16:48] <@DANU_EI> but read only status is not rare[16:48] <@DANU_EI> possibly sections[16:49] <@Peaches>
<Steelclaw> Have you considered the potential subs who wish to
ask questions about the game or have trouble running the game? They
come to the forum to get their answers and tech support -- and you
can't open a ticket without an account.[16:51] <@DANU_EI> tickets
and email inquiries will need to be received ..once again structure
needs to be designed with sectios[16:51] <@DANU_EI> done[16:49] <@Peaches>
<Steelclaw> Have you considered the potential subs who wish to
ask questions about the game or have trouble running the game? They
come to the forum to get their answers and tech support -- and you
can't open a ticket without an account.[16:51] <@DANU_EI> tickets
and email inquiries will need to be received ..once again structure
needs to be designed with sectios[16:51] <@DANU_EI> done[16:51] <@Peaches> *Variol*
If the games numer of sub's were to increase a great deal would that
allow for a larger dev team...sorry if this has already been asked.[16:52] * Asteral has left #Horizons[16:52] * Seraies has quit IRC (Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)[16:52] <@DANU_EI> hal i have not seen a direct tell rom u[16:53] * Asteral has joined #Horizons[16:53] <@Peaches> I am processing all the questons in my list, some arent showing up for some reason[16:53] <@DANU_EI> dev team and content growth rate will expnd with subs[16:55] <@Peaches>
*Khoal|lastnickIswear* If only active subscribers can post on the
forums, what will you do with this IRC channel?[16:55] <@DANU_EI> I have acall coing in[16:55] <@Peaches> okies[16:57] <@DANU_EI> LOL it depends on how smished danu dragon is when he visits...[16:57] <@DANU_EI> I think integrating more dialogie by players is only point[16:58] <@Peaches> Thank you Danu, for taking the time to come in and address questions and concerns[16:58] <@DANU_EI> ty all
Comments
Nothing new there. Unless things have changed, you can't post on the AO or EQ1/2 boards without being a paying and logged in member.
They're just playing copycat.
Slight difference. I'm a paid subscriber - I've posted questions asking what's going on - none have appeared. I am not logging in as a guest. All posts regardless of who makes them are screened and then "approved" for posting.
Again, a slight difference there.
Bulgrim StoneCleaver
Dwarven Master Crafter
Reaver/Shaman/Healer/Mage
Veteran of many MMO's
Well children, please start to vent - no *VENT* your displeasure at the current state of affairs with the troubled entity known as Horizons and speak with your wallet. Cancel and quit. Nothing works so well as hitting them in the hip pocket.
Let me be egotistical here: those forums went to shit the day me and Frodric quit moderating and people like Peaches and Devilduck Dangit or whatever it calls itself took over. Who is this Rover dude anyway? What anonymous hole in Insignificance-ville did he crawl out of?
Who the hell made Peaches a moderator anyway? Geez...like making Karl Rove the moderator of a George W. Bush forum.
The forums as they stand are a haven for a circle jerk session. Same old shit being recycled and re-done in the same old yawn-worthy ways. Bunch of friends bemoaning the same bollocks over and over again.
Dangit is no longer a mod there btw he went off and is trying to make his own game now .
QFT