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Official forums activity double over April

RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961
Anyway, the official forums apear to be open again, so I decided to run the analyzer again.

There are now twice as many subscribers logged in as in April, averaged over the prime-time.

The number of guests (people browsing but not logged in) is same as it was.

Take it as you will.


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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    They were closed?

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  • Concord7Concord7 Member Posts: 125

    How do you tell how many people are logged in? Or am I missing a info page on the SOE forums. I have been (off and on) keeping an eye on the length of time between the 1st post and last post on the 1st page of the general forum. It has shown a slow down. Last week it was up to 55 minutes at its worst. Generally through the day there is a 20 minute span.

    Course Pre-CU it was under a ONE minute. The jedi Forums were similar.

  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Concord7

    How do you tell how many people are logged in? Or am I missing a info page on the SOE forums. I have been (off and on) keeping an eye on the length of time between the 1st post and last post on the 1st page of the general forum. It has shown a slow down. Last week it was up to 55 minutes at its worst. Generally through the day there is a 20 minute span.

    Course Pre-CU it was under a ONE minute. The jedi Forums were similar.


    http://soe.lithium.com/swg/users_online
  • FikusOfAhaziFikusOfAhazi Member Posts: 1,835



    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Anyway, the official forums apear to be open again, so I decided to run the analyzer again.

    There are now twice as many subscribers logged in as in April, averaged over the prime-time.

    The number of guests (people browsing but not logged in) is same as it was.

    Take it as you will.

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    I've also noticed twice as many posts calling for a roll back.

    See you in the dream..
    The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi




    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Anyway, the official forums apear to be open again, so I decided to run the analyzer again.

    There are now twice as many subscribers logged in as in April, averaged over the prime-time.

    The number of guests (people browsing but not logged in) is same as it was.

    Take it as you will.

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    I've also noticed twice as many posts calling for a roll back.

    And twice as many btching about restuss/expertise.

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi




    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Anyway, the official forums apear to be open again, so I decided to run the analyzer again.

    There are now twice as many subscribers logged in as in April, averaged over the prime-time.

    The number of guests (people browsing but not logged in) is same as it was.

    Take it as you will.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I've also noticed twice as many posts calling for a roll back.

    And twice as many btching about restuss/expertise.


    To be technical, any post about Restuss or Expertise is infinity more then what was back in April since it hadn't been announced/showen at that point

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489

    I noticed twice as many of these ---->

    Please, someone tell me WTH this is??? It bothers me now...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • maxantomaxanto Member Posts: 778


    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Anyway, the official forums apear to be open again, so I decided to run the analyzer again.

    There are now twice as many subscribers logged in as in April, averaged over the prime-time.

    The number of guests (people browsing but not logged in) is same as it was.

    Take it as you will.




    "run the analyzer"?  Is this some wonderous software you devolped? Is this something you can share with the community? If so I will create you an FTP account to one of my servers, you can upload it and share it with this community.

    If your answer is "no" to any of these questions, I would guess that you have no "analyzer" and are therefore full of dingo's kidneys!
  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by maxanto

    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Anyway, the official forums apear to be open again, so I decided to run the analyzer again.

    There are now twice as many subscribers logged in as in April, averaged over the prime-time.

    The number of guests (people browsing but not logged in) is same as it was.

    Take it as you will.



    "run the analyzer"?  Is this some wonderous software you devolped? Is this something you can share with the community? If so I will create you an FTP account to one of my servers, you can upload it and share it with this community.

    If your answer is "no" to any of these questions, I would guess that you have no "analyzer" and are therefore full of dingo's kidneys!


    import Str, Files, Java;

    var f = "c:\forumlog.txt";

    var process = fun()
      var s = "";
      var D = Java_New("java.util.Date");
     
      s = s + D.toString() + " : ";

      var P = GetURL("http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/users_online");
      var userBlock = Parent(Pat(P, "Showing Members online")[0]);
      var totalOnline = Elem(userBlock, "b");
     
      s = s + Text(totalOnline[1]) + " ";
      s = s + Str_Split(Text(PCData(userBlock)[4]), " (")[1] + "
    ";
     
      Print(s);
     
      Files_AppendToFile(f, s);
    end;

    while true do
      Trap(process());
     
      Sleep(120000);
    end;


    You'll need WebL from compaq and Java 1.3 or higher.

    Do not change the sleep to less than 2 minutes, preferably not less than 30, since you could be banned for spamming their webserver.

    Setting it to 5 seconds will (or at least it used to), result in temporary IP ban.
  • maxantomaxanto Member Posts: 778


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by maxanto

    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Anyway, the official forums apear to be open again, so I decided to run the analyzer again.

    There are now twice as many subscribers logged in as in April, averaged over the prime-time.

    The number of guests (people browsing but not logged in) is same as it was.

    Take it as you will.



    "run the analyzer"?  Is this some wonderous software you devolped? Is this something you can share with the community? If so I will create you an FTP account to one of my servers, you can upload it and share it with this community.

    If your answer is "no" to any of these questions, I would guess that you have no "analyzer" and are therefore full of dingo's kidneys!


    import Str, Files, Java;

    var f = "c:\forumlog.txt";

    var process = fun()
      var s = "";
      var D = Java_New("java.util.Date");
     
      s = s + D.toString() + " : ";

      var P = GetURL("http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/users_online");
      var userBlock = Parent(Pat(P, "Showing Members online")[0]);
      var totalOnline = Elem(userBlock, "b");
     
      s = s + Text(totalOnline[1]) + " ";
      s = s + Str_Split(Text(PCData(userBlock)[4]), " (")[1] + "
    ";
     
      Print(s);
     
      Files_AppendToFile(f, s);
    end;

    while true do
      Trap(process());
     
      Sleep(120000);
    end;


    You'll need WebL from compaq and Java 1.3 or higher.

    Do not change the sleep to less than 2 minutes, preferably not less than 30, since you could be banned for spamming their webserver.

    Setting it to 5 seconds will (or at least it used to), result in temporary IP ban.


    I can tell you right now that doesn't work. Nice try though sorry you are not dealing with an idiot here. Thanks for proving my point.

    Little help, cause I am a nice guy, "http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/users_online" Doesn't exist any more... its a re-direct page. Save face man quit while you are behind!
  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by maxanto



    I can tell you right now that doesn't work. Nice try though sorry you are not dealing with an idiot here. Thanks for proving my point.

    Little help, cause I am a nice guy, "http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/users_online" Doesn't exist any more... its a re-direct page. Save face man quit while you are behind!

    Do you have a disconnect from reality?

    Did you even try to run the script? It's java -jar Webl.jar <scriptname>.webl

    The java html class handles redirects.

    Here, running right now:
    D:webl>java -jar WebL.jar swgforums.webl
    Tue Aug 08 14:34:14 CEST 2006 : 1128 1380
    Tue Aug 08 14:36:18 CEST 2006 : 1130 1325


  • maxantomaxanto Member Posts: 778


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by maxanto



    I can tell you right now that doesn't work. Nice try though sorry you are not dealing with an idiot here. Thanks for proving my point.

    Little help, cause I am a nice guy, "http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/users_online" Doesn't exist any more... its a re-direct page. Save face man quit while you are behind!


    Do you have a disconnect from reality?

    Did you even try to run the script? It's java -jar Webl.jar <scriptname>.webl

    The java html class handles redirects.

    Here, running right now:
    D:webl>java -jar WebL.jar swgforums.webl
    Tue Aug 08 14:34:14 CEST 2006 : 1128 1380
    Tue Aug 08 14:36:18 CEST 2006 : 1130 1325




    Why yes I must have a dissconnect from reality since I don't believe everything that comes out fo your pie hole.

    http://soe.lithium.com/users_online at least will show you how many are currently online. And hey you don't even need to run any scripts! Woot! lol

  • ReachwindReachwind Member Posts: 275

    All MMOs see an increase in users during the summer months. That's when school is out.

    That's also why you are seeing so many outraged players posting. A lot of these are players that are just now seeing these changes for the first time. When you log on looking for SWG and find Diablo 2 running you're going to be a little upset.

    Former SWG beta tester and player

  • Concord7Concord7 Member Posts: 125

    Rekrul,

    Thanks for the link. Do you know if/how station passes factor into the users online or guests? Or do you log into each games forums separately?

  • Concord7Concord7 Member Posts: 125
    Just noticed a big problem with the users online - people are logged on multiple times. On the 1st page one guy is logged on 3 times at the same time another twice. On the second page it is the same.
  • maxantomaxanto Member Posts: 778


    Originally posted by Concord7
    Just noticed a big problem with the users online - people are logged on multiple times. On the 1st page one guy is logged on 3 times at the same time another twice. On the second page it is the same.

    This is just to show how many forum users are online at any given time... doesn't mean anything. These are not the facts you are looking for, move along.
  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Concord7

    Rekrul,
    Thanks for the link. Do you know if/how station passes factor into the users online or guests? Or do you log into each games forums separately?


    Station pass users have their own accounts. The number presented here does not differentiate between station pass and SWG only. It's the number of people logged into SWG forums at a given time.

    I also had scripts for number of newly registered users, but I can't find them now. That number shows directly how many new forum accounts are created over a given time span. That number is directly proportional to number of new subscriptions.

    Duplicate users are not differentiated here, but the rule of 1 account/1 subscription still applies, so it's irrelevant.

    August is peak time. During the summer of CU servers were crashing, some were capped, many were heavy. Comparing the 2000+ forum accounts to current 1100 gives a rather accurate picture of the subscription drop, and related population in the galaxies.

    This number would be in the order of 100k-150k subscriptions of unknown type (as compared to the alleged 200-250k before NGE)

    As I said, this number may mean something, or it may mean absolutely nothing. But with a little rational aproach, it's rather straightforward to come to reasonable estimates.
  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351

    Subs always increase after a new publish. Nothing new really.

    edit- of course, they (at least since the NGE) go back down by the next billing cycle

    Love, Sodapop

  • KenshuAniKenshuAni Member CommonPosts: 851


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    August is peak time. During the summer of CU servers were crashing, some were capped, many were heavy. Comparing the 2000+ forum accounts to current 1100 gives a rather accurate picture of the subscription drop, and related population in the galaxies.


    Makes sense.  Now I know why Smedley asked for 6 months in March.  To give the summer logins time to play the game and see if they enjoy it.
  • JediGeekJediGeek Member Posts: 446


    Originally posted by Reachwind

    All MMOs see an increase in users during the summer months. That's when school is out.
    That's also why you are seeing so many outraged players posting. A lot of these are players that are just now seeing these changes for the first time. When you log on looking for SWG and find Diablo 2 running you're going to be a little upset.


    Don't insult Diablo 2 like that.  Diablo 2 is more fun than the NGE now.

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  • pirrgpirrg Member Posts: 1,443
    i wouldnt be surprised if swg had around 260-300k subscriptions to date. If the forum activity has doubled that means the subscription rate has doubled.

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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by pirrg
    i wouldnt be surprised if swg had around 260-300k subscriptions to date. If the forum activity has doubled that means the subscription rate has doubled.



    From april.

    In april forum activity was 1/3 of what it used to be before NGE.
  • FormathorFormathor Member Posts: 53


    Originally posted by pirrg
    i wouldnt be surprised if swg had around 260-300k subscriptions to date. If the forum activity has doubled that means the subscription rate has doubled.

    so when the NGE hit and when the forum use expanded 10 times to what it was. This was because people where in fact flooding in to the game.

    My turn to spin.

    No it just means what player they do have are complaining not playing The wheels of the spin go round an round!!!

  • almagillalmagill Member Posts: 279
    Fun page users online sorted by time logged on to the forums.

    Even scanning down that you can see multiple entries where the same player is counted twice. It's not even as though these are sperate forum accounts, it's the same account.

    If 4 from the first 30 entries contain duplicates, tha tputs the total logged on in some doubt.

    Odd. I've not signed on but I've been there for 24 minutes already....

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  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351


    Originally posted by Formathor

    Originally posted by pirrg
    i wouldnt be surprised if swg had around 260-300k subscriptions to date. If the forum activity has doubled that means the subscription rate has doubled.

    so when the NGE hit and when the forum use expanded 10 times to what it was. This was because people where in fact flooding in to the game.

    My turn to spin.

    No it just means what player they do have are complaining not playing The wheels of the spin go round an round!!!



    I didn't register for the forums until the CU came along.

    Love, Sodapop

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