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Dark and Light Free for 3 months.

WolfinessWolfiness Member Posts: 41
Dear Dark and Light player,


After having assessed the first months of play in the Dark and Light game, we

agree that the main features of Dark and Light have been implemented at the

release but the game still needs to be refined.


We are reacting quickly and have already agreed with our partner Snailgame to

enlarge the production capacity by employing up to 40 people based in Shanghai.

Some major patches have already been integrated and other patches will be

applied regularly during the next three months.


To thank you for your confidence in the project, we have decided to offer you

the next three months of subscription* at no cost enabling you to experience

the regular Dark and Light updates.


Please note that paying subscriptions will restart on November 2006.


In other words, all Dark and Light activation key owners can now play Dark and

Light for free through October 2006.


Once again, we thank you for your fidelity. Please remain assured that we are

gathering all the means to answer your demands.


Best regards,


Farlan Entertainment


* Players whose August subscription has already been paid will be refunded in

the coming weeks.

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Comments

  • WolfinessWolfiness Member Posts: 41
    You guys think they can save the game before the 3 months peroid? because to be honest, they haven't made any progress during the first 2 months.

    Never the less it is too quick to make any judgement, I'll reserve my comments until after the 3 months.

    Althought note this is not mentioned on the website at the moment so will prob not apply to new subscribers.


  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020

    The problem most people have isn't that it isn't worth the monthly fee, it's that it's not worth the time to even play. Giving 3 months free doesn't solve anything, it's still the game that people didn't even want to log in to during their first month.

    And their piddily little patch fixes and bug lists can't help them, they don't have the skill nor the time required to totally fix DnL.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    omfg, is this for real?

    Do they, or anybody for that matter, honestly believe this is gonna work? Nobody friggin cares anymore. Let the damn game die a dignified death. I swear these ppl have no class at all.LOL To allow the lies, excuses, and total bs to continue is making themselves more of complete jackass jokes than ever before possible.

    More ppl does NOT guarantee a playable game. (they (the devs) have to know what the hell they are doing first before adding a bunch of ppl whom they cant even determine have the wits about them for a mmo)

    Free doesnt guarantee a playable game. (they still make out with the most expensive mmo on the market as it is not to mention that its digital download only - no box/CD)

    3 more months when they have had 7 yrs isnt going to solve a damn thing nor guarantee a playable game. (hmmm, do the math...7yrs....vs...3 months.....how many lies? how many bs stories? how many bs excuses?)

    Now that they have lost ALL of their player base, due to their own arrogance and disrespect for not only their own but the entire mmo community, they try to come out like this? Friggin lame. Sorry sorry azzes.

    **Wait, wait, wait...if we act now, in the next 30 minutes, can we also get a FREE Ginsu knife for only $19.99?

  • TaspharelTaspharel Member Posts: 8

    Also: Hiring 40 people in some company based in Shanghai will never work out. NP3 cant even manage to sort out their internal communication problems, not speaking with AD, not speaking with the community, not even speaking with their own devs it seems... does anybody really believe in them being able to work across oceans with a group of developers thats a lot larger than their own crew? Never.

    And i cant imagine they dont know that.

    So there is two possibilities:

    1) Its another PR Scam. They are talking about the group of snailgame that has been working on designing elements ingame since quite some time already... or whatever. Just like the sh* they pulled with the 318.000 Users that are actively playing they quoted in the last newspaper thingie.

    2) They are giving up. Snailgame has the money, Snailgame has a market that will accept a substandard grinding game (and dnl is nothing more, and a bad grinding game even more atm) and will adapt the features and the looks to their own market. That will leave np3 with a group of players that might even be big enough to repay them for the costs they had. And some people from the us and europe might even be amongst the users playing. So the small fanbase stays, the game takes its place amongst a long list of crap that nobody will ever remember.

  • indiramournindiramourn Member UncommonPosts: 884

    This is just a token gesture.  Everyone is already playing for free the next 3 months because everyone who has decided to stick around has changed over to the Freedom pack.

    This is classic Farlan/NP3.  Make promises and throw out carrots to keep people around as long as possible.  But it will be the same incompetent devs and coders struggling to do something right, anything right, over the next few months to try and save DnL.

  • ZvorakZvorak Member Posts: 234


    Originally posted by Wolfiness
    Dear Dark and Light player,

    After having assessed the first months of play in the Dark and Light game, we
    agree that the main features of Dark and Light have been implemented at the
    release but the game still needs to be refined.

    We are reacting quickly and have already agreed with our partner Snailgame to
    enlarge the production capacity by employing up to 40 people based in Shanghai.
    Some major patches have already been integrated and other patches will be
    applied regularly during the next three months.

    To thank you for your confidence in the project, we have decided to offer you
    the next three months of subscription* at no cost enabling you to experience
    the regular Dark and Light updates.

    Please note that paying subscriptions will restart on November 2006.

    In other words, all Dark and Light activation key owners can now play Dark and
    Light for free through October 2006.

    Once again, we thank you for your fidelity. Please remain assured that we are
    gathering all the means to answer your demands.

    Best regards,

    Farlan Entertainment

    * Players whose August subscription has already been paid will be refunded in
    the coming weeks.


    LOL.....

    I just received my e-mail tonight. I couldn't stop laughing and it morrors what I was saying about a month ago about Vuuar being in Asia.  He was garnering help from the high School techies that are taking on re-programming Dark & Light as a science prject.

    They had to announce a stunt like this, or be ready to announce that Dark & Light has just 236 Subscriber left after all the free subscription are over.

    -Zvorak

  • luileinluilein Member Posts: 3
    well i wouldnt say that they haven't made any progress in the last 2 months, they have changed a lot, but there are still so many things to fix that most people who don't play very often can't recognice it
    and the problem most players had with DNL is that they have spent many for something they haven't got
    for my part i stoped playing 3 weeks ago because it realy was a wast of time at that point


  • virtuellavirtuella Member UncommonPosts: 699
    Another 3 months of free torture.

    Joy oh joy.


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  • ArandurArandur Member Posts: 7
    Its funny to see how, in these forums, people try to demonize any Farlan's movement.
    In this mail, Farlan has made three of the things that we asked him:

    1) Comunicate
    2) Increase the number of workers.
    3) To remove the monthly payment while the game does not improve.

    I dion't know then, why people thinks that he is "Mulder" or "Scully" and try to find any conspiration in Farlan.
    If they anounce that we have three free months more, they are loosing money (not earning), there can't exist any type of conspiration to steal money and run or  "to bring them all into the Darkness of the game".

    At any point of view, this is a good initiative of Farlan, life with that.

    Oh, Sorry about my english, I know that sometimes i must be hard to understand ;).


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  • holycannoliholycannoli Member Posts: 236

    40 more people huh? That better be 40 competent, experienced devs. If it's like 10 devs, 30 interpreters it's not gonna do anything.

    There's so much work to do it's not even funny. And, once again, we'll have to wait and see...

  • nexus42nexus42 Member Posts: 288

    As I read it, they're outsourcing the majority of the game code to a third party in the hopes that the project can be saved. They're giving away 3 months free to both try and retain they're shrinking player base and give the new team the ability to test network code etc. under actual ideal circumstances.

    Pure conjecture. But if the finished product is anything like the actual coding used to create D&L, good luck. I doubt they have any/much documentation, so those "40" guys in Shanghai (there are probably 40 people on the team, sure, but one is the janitor, one is the secretary, etc.) are going to digging line by line.

    Good times, good times.

    ...Pika

  • nexus42nexus42 Member Posts: 288



    Originally posted by Wolfiness
     

    We are reacting quickly and have already agreed with our partner Snailgame to
    enlarge the production capacity by employing up to 40 people based in Shanghai.
     

    Whoops, didn't read the statement carefully enough. Yes, I could eat up to 40 t-bone steaks, but I'd probably only have room for one.

    ...Pika

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Arandur
    Its funny to see how, in these forums, people try to demonize any Farlan's movement.
    In this mail, Farlan has made three of the things that we asked him:

    1) Comunicate
    2) Increase the number of workers.
    3) To remove the monthly payment while the game does not improve.

    I dion't know then, why people thinks that he is "Mulder" or "Scully" and try to find any conspiration in Farlan.
    If they anounce that we have three free months more, they are loosing money (not earning), there can't exist any type of conspiration to steal money and run or  "to bring them all into the Darkness of the game".

    At any point of view, this is a good initiative of Farlan, life with that.

    Oh, Sorry about my english, I know that sometimes i must be hard to understand ;).


    And this entire post smacks of the typical FArlan/NP3 bs. A conspiracy? Where the heck did you get that out of the more than clear posts this has generated? It is posts like yours that fuel these ridiculous ideas of "conspiracy" as well as fuel the animosity in their own community. Insofar as "loosing' money? Hardly....charging the most expensive amount for a game in order to play free for a few months(and lets not forget the already messed up and proven track record of the account/billing area this company has already generated)  -- they arent losing a damn thing money wise. The cost of the game itself overrides any free period. Besides, most are already on the pay as you play idea so what does this really change? Nothing. Except to show how sleazy and without a clue they really are.

    The ONLY thing this thread has shown and should show anyone with their heads outta of the sand is that Farlan/NP3 have already lost any sort of credibility within the gaming industry and the gaming community.

  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006
    Well, at least they stopped charging to play Alpha.

    Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!

  • GnomadGnomad Member Posts: 377


    Originally posted by remyburke
    Well, at least they stopped charging to play Alpha.


    Now we have 3 months of free "beta" LOL

    Anyway, consider this also: if they move the game operations to Aisa, specifically China then _Pix_ will be SOL in his lawsuit against them. China could careless about pirated code, hell Hong Kong is the pirated software capital of the world.

    There may be more going on behind the scenes then we realize knowing these sleeze bags.

  • naldricnaldric Member UncommonPosts: 909
    This is probably what Farlan is thinking when giving those 3 month "To all those who said the game wont have anybody left once the "free" time is gone, GOT YOU", what they dont know is that ppl wont play it even for free... LOL
  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316

    Originally posted by remyburke
    Well, at least they stopped charging to play Alpha.
    It's still 50$ to buy.  I never pay to beta test a game.
  • ZvorakZvorak Member Posts: 234


    Originally posted by Arandur
    Its funny to see how, in these forums, people try to demonize any Farlan's movement.
    In this mail, Farlan has made three of the things that we asked him:

    1) Comunicate
    2) Increase the number of workers.
    3) To remove the monthly payment while the game does not improve.

    I dion't know then, why people thinks that he is "Mulder" or "Scully" and try to find any conspiration in Farlan.
    If they anounce that we have three free months more, they are loosing money (not earning), there can't exist any type of conspiration to steal money and run or  "to bring them all into the Darkness of the game".

    At any point of view, this is a good initiative of Farlan, life with that.

    Oh, Sorry about my english, I know that sometimes i must be hard to understand ;).


    You have it utterly WRONG....!

    That e-mail is humorious because it took Mulder & Scully 7 months to tell us... what we told THEM. How incredible is that... how inept is that..?

    We repeatedly ask... no begged Farlan when SoG was released that this game was in no way near completion, perhaps another year to go. We asked for what they just gave us.... but we asked for it when the game was on the horizons, not while the game was over... finished, a total flop.

    Dark & Light is forgotten... it's a "bad memory". It was a flop.  It doesnt even exist now, because it nothing more than a badly written alpha. We do not want a ressurected game and thats what we told Farlan 7-8 months ago in November.....!

    The game's premis alone is not exciting... let alone the flaws, glitches, bugs and inability to deliver. It's time to shut the doors, take what you've learned and move on.

    -Zvorak

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by naldric
    This is probably what Farlan is thinking when giving those 3 month "To all those who said the game wont have anybody left once the "free" time is gone, GOT YOU", what they dont know is that ppl wont play it even for free... LOL

    Heh. They better watch out. What goes around comes around and all that....the chinese COULD do the very same thing they are attempting to do with VWORLD TERRAIN and the stolen technology (www.pourieux.com) Karma sux eh?


  • RyuukoGoRyuukoGo Member Posts: 235

    You have to be kidding... it just was released.. about 2 months..and they are already offering 3 months free.

    Any idea how many Subscribers there were on the release day vs now?

  • indiramournindiramourn Member UncommonPosts: 884


    Originally posted by Zvorak
     It's time to shut the doors, take what you've learned and move on.

    -Zvorak


    The devs realized that DnL was doomed from the moment Pix and the other talented team members left early on.  From the pitiful SoG to the stillborn DnL, the devs have been driving toward this final goal: Sell DnL to the Asian market.  This "3 free months" email is a surrender letter. 
  • elitwebbelitwebb Member Posts: 342


    Originally posted by Cholayna

    omfg, is this for real?
    Do they, or anybody for that matter, honestly believe this is gonna work? Nobody friggin cares anymore. Let the damn game die a dignified death. I swear these ppl have no class at all.


    Shame on you Cholayna.  How could you use the words "dignified" and "class" in anything having to do with Farlan or DnL?  I would not even use them as in "they are not dignified, and have no class."
  • GalaxyGalaxy Member Posts: 120

    We stole from you, and we feel badly that we were caught.  The game is not out of Beta, butif we hadn't offered a Beta period, we think you'd not have noticed.

    As such, we are offering 3 free months.  In that period we promise not to steal from you.  We feel that is fair.  We stole your money, but we won't for 3 more months.  How could you ask us not to steal for a longer period?  We have wives and children to feed.

    At the end of 3 months we plan to steal from you again.  We hope to find many more pockets after this free period.  Again we thank you for supporting our effort. 

    --Farlan

  • MITSoxFanMITSoxFan Member Posts: 92

    Wow, another 3 free months to beta test for Farlan.

    At this rate, DnL will be the most extensively tested game in the history of games. 4 years and counting.

    Man, when this game comes out for reals in November I bet it will be awesome. It has so much potential!





  • CoHsucksCoHsucks Member Posts: 197

    They just do this because they want to be ready when the millions play at once. Game is not broken, very real life! You want easy game you play tictactoe, Dnl not easy, dnl like real life.

    Now get rid of venders, die fior real when charactor dies..then game is better, when all the people hear dnl free, players will be millions!! LOL, no room to move. Dnl better than 59 MMOs i played, best game!!

    -Couldn't resist, sorry

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