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"Bully" video game to be released in October

reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173
"Bully" video game to be released in October

I wonder who will buy this kind of video game?  I wonder if it could cause an increase in bullying?


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  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509


    Originally posted by reavo
    "Bully" video game to be released in October

    I wonder who will buy this kind of video game?  I wonder if it could cause an increase in bullying?


    I doubt any more than crazy postal workers increased when Postal 2 came out all those years ago, or massive murdering rampages when GTA1 was released.

    Their games, they cause their little hooplah then people go on and see them for what they are, entertainment. Crazy, boring and repetetive games most of the time, but just game none the less.

  • ArremusArremus Member Posts: 656
    Over-dramatised by the Media? Probably.

    But I think the question is "Is a game like this necessary?" I say no, not at all.


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  • Driver8Driver8 Member Posts: 81


    Originally posted by shae

    Originally posted by reavo
    "Bully" video game to be released in October

    I wonder who will buy this kind of video game?  I wonder if it could cause an increase in bullying?

    I doubt any more than crazy postal workers increased when Postal 2 came out all those years ago, or massive murdering rampages when GTA1 was released.

    Their games, they cause their little hooplah then people go on and see them for what they are, entertainment. Crazy, boring and repetetive games most of the time, but just game none the less.


    Bullying is a little different from being a crazed postal worker or carjacking.  It's something that is a little lower on the inhibition scale.  In other words, bullying is something that someone is more proned to do because the repurcussions aren't as high. 

    Kids in school are at an impressionable age.  When they hear teachers telling them bullying is wrong but then go home and see it as a fun activity and something acceptable in the game, they're not as good at discerning reality from fiction in that sense. 

    I think it will increase bullying in kids that play it.  I don't see how it could decrease it.
  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509


    Originally posted by Driver8

    Bullying is a little different from being a crazed postal worker or carjacking.  It's something that is a little lower on the inhibition scale.  In other words, bullying is something that someone is more proned to do because the repurcussions aren't as high. 

    Kids in school are at an impressionable age.  When they hear teachers telling them bullying is wrong but then go home and see it as a fun activity and something acceptable in the game, they're not as good at discerning reality from fiction in that sense. 

    I think it will increase bullying in kids that play it.  I don't see how it could decrease it.


    Then the parents of said children should really be making sure their kids aren't playing M rated games, dont you think? The ESRB goes to great lengths to make sure these is overly obvious on all game related packaging and the rating system is pretty clear.

    Liny: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

    Let's face it, this game isn't ment for an 11 year old who still doesn't know her butt from her elbow, it's meant for a 17+ gamer that happens to know it's just that, a game.

    If what you say happens, then we can't blame the developer, blame the parents that either dont' care what their kids are playing or aren't paying enough attention in the first place to make sure it doesn't happen.

  • Driver8Driver8 Member Posts: 81


    Originally posted by shae


    Originally posted by Driver8


    Bullying is a little different from being a crazed postal worker or carjacking.  It's something that is a little lower on the inhibition scale.  In other words, bullying is something that someone is more proned to do because the repurcussions aren't as high. 

    Kids in school are at an impressionable age.  When they hear teachers telling them bullying is wrong but then go home and see it as a fun activity and something acceptable in the game, they're not as good at discerning reality from fiction in that sense. 

    I think it will increase bullying in kids that play it.  I don't see how it could decrease it.


    Then the parents of said children should really be making sure their kids aren't playing M rated games, dont you think? The ESRB goes to great lengths to make sure these is overly obvious on all game related packaging and the rating system is pretty clear.

    Liny: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

    Let's face it, this game isn't ment for an 11 year old who still doesn't know her butt from her elbow, it's meant for a 17+ gamer that happens to know it's just that, a game.

    If what you say happens, then we can't blame the developer, blame the parents that either dont' care what their kids are playing or aren't paying enough attention in the first place to make sure it doesn't happen.


    Sure it's the parents fault.  I didn't say that.  But that's only half the story. 

    It's also the fault of the people that put this stuff out.  It's a game about bullying.  Who do you think is going to be attracted to a game about school bullying?  Now if you were a game developer and knew that you were making a violent game that appealed to impressionable school age kids and knew also that there were parents out there that don't give a rats ass about what their kids play, wouldn't you at some point look at what you are doing and let your conscience speak up?  Or is that something that is muted over the money they make?
  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718

    I know what all of you mean and I do agree that it could increase bullying, but there are many, many factors to how. ESRB, parents, children. I don't know why RockStar wanted to use elementary school kids, when they could have done highschool or college.

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  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065

    How about just posting the link to your news source in your signature and stop with the constant link threads about stuff?  I know you just find something on the site you wander on and post links to stories you find, interesting and spam it back here to make yourself look I don't know... informed.

    Oh and bout the videogame bully, single mother parents will only buy them.

  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173


    Originally posted by Vercades

    How about just posting the link to your news source in your signature and stop with the constant link threads about stuff?  I know you just find something on the site you wander on and post links to stories you find, interesting and spam it back here to make yourself look I don't know... informed.
    Oh and bout the videogame bully, single mother parents will only buy them.


    I'm terribly sorry.  I didn't mean to grab your mouse and make you click on the topic.  Geez, man.  How can I make it up to you?

    How about this way, the next time you see a topic that was started by "reavo", I don't grab your mouse again and make you go to it?  Will that clear things up. 
  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by reavo

    Originally posted by Vercades

    How about just posting the link to your news source in your signature and stop with the constant link threads about stuff?  I know you just find something on the site you wander on and post links to stories you find, interesting and spam it back here to make yourself look I don't know... informed.
    Oh and bout the videogame bully, single mother parents will only buy them.

    I'm terribly sorry.  I didn't mean to grab your mouse and make you click on the topic.  Geez, man.  How can I make it up to you?

    How about this way, the next time you see a topic that was started by "reavo", I don't grab your mouse again and make you go to it?  Will that clear things up. 


    Or how bout just post your news source in your signature instead of giving off the influence that you find these links to stories from your vast knowledge of the internet?  People here aren't smart and, you know it.

    I'd much rather click on the news source site you get this stuff off instead of a thread you make about it.

  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718
    Chill Vercades. It would be best that you just copy and paste the news in the topic then give the link.

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  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586


    Originally posted by reavo
    "Bully" video game to be released in October

    I wonder who will buy this kind of video game?  I wonder if it could cause an increase in bullying?




    People who buy this game will be the same ones who thought it was ok to buy GTA for their 8 year old. Then when the kid does something and gets national attention they will use the game as a scapegoat for their poor parenting skills.

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  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646
    I thought this was cancelled?

  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by reavo

    Originally posted by Vercades

    How about just posting the link to your news source in your signature and stop with the constant link threads about stuff?  I know you just find something on the site you wander on and post links to stories you find, interesting and spam it back here to make yourself look I don't know... informed.
    Oh and bout the videogame bully, single mother parents will only buy them.

    I'm terribly sorry.  I didn't mean to grab your mouse and make you click on the topic.  Geez, man.  How can I make it up to you?

    How about this way, the next time you see a topic that was started by "reavo", I don't grab your mouse again and make you go to it?  Will that clear things up. 


    Or how bout just post your news source in your signature instead of giving off the influence that you find these links to stories from your vast knowledge of the internet?  People here aren't smart and, you know it.

    I'd much rather click on the news source site you get this stuff off instead of a thread you make about it.


    The next time you see a topic that was started by "reavo" just don't click on it.  Problem solved.
  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by reavo

    Originally posted by Vercades

    How about just posting the link to your news source in your signature and stop with the constant link threads about stuff?  I know you just find something on the site you wander on and post links to stories you find, interesting and spam it back here to make yourself look I don't know... informed.
    Oh and bout the videogame bully, single mother parents will only buy them.

    I'm terribly sorry.  I didn't mean to grab your mouse and make you click on the topic.  Geez, man.  How can I make it up to you?

    How about this way, the next time you see a topic that was started by "reavo", I don't grab your mouse again and make you go to it?  Will that clear things up. 


    Or how bout just post your news source in your signature instead of giving off the influence that you find these links to stories from your vast knowledge of the internet?  People here aren't smart and, you know it.

    I'd much rather click on the news source site you get this stuff off instead of a thread you make about it.


    Dang, I know somebody who doesn't need to be playing the "Bully" game. 

    Relax dude, if you don't like the way somebody does something move on.  Don't be so manipulative.

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  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509


    Originally posted by Driver8

    Originally posted by shae


    Originally posted by Driver8



    Bullying is a little different from being a crazed postal worker or carjacking.  It's something that is a little lower on the inhibition scale.  In other words, bullying is something that someone is more proned to do because the repurcussions aren't as high. 

    Kids in school are at an impressionable age.  When they hear teachers telling them bullying is wrong but then go home and see it as a fun activity and something acceptable in the game, they're not as good at discerning reality from fiction in that sense. 

    I think it will increase bullying in kids that play it.  I don't see how it could decrease it.


    Then the parents of said children should really be making sure their kids aren't playing M rated games, dont you think? The ESRB goes to great lengths to make sure these is overly obvious on all game related packaging and the rating system is pretty clear.

    Liny: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

    Let's face it, this game isn't ment for an 11 year old who still doesn't know her butt from her elbow, it's meant for a 17+ gamer that happens to know it's just that, a game.

    If what you say happens, then we can't blame the developer, blame the parents that either dont' care what their kids are playing or aren't paying enough attention in the first place to make sure it doesn't happen.


    Sure it's the parents fault.  I didn't say that.  But that's only half the story. 

    It's also the fault of the people that put this stuff out.  It's a game about bullying.  Who do you think is going to be attracted to a game about school bullying?  Now if you were a game developer and knew that you were making a violent game that appealed to impressionable school age kids and knew also that there were parents out there that don't give a rats ass about what their kids play, wouldn't you at some point look at what you are doing and let your conscience speak up?  Or is that something that is muted over the money they make?


    Yup, your right, that's an awefully good point that I will agree with you on. Violence, just like sex, sells games and your probably right that the money they will make off this game probably far outwheigh's any moral dilema they have with making a game like this in the first place.

    It is unfortunate, however a part of reality. I mean seriously, we're talking about a developer that makes game where you can whore out prostitutes on the streets and cause massive amounts of carnage on an entire city and be "rewarded" for it no less.

    Certainly we can make an argument for the morality of the games themselves, I'm just saying we should just as equally point out that these games are not supposed to be for children and at the very least encourage parents to pay attention to the ratings.

    But again, good point.
  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by gnomexxx

    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by reavo

    Originally posted by Vercades

    How about just posting the link to your news source in your signature and stop with the constant link threads about stuff?  I know you just find something on the site you wander on and post links to stories you find, interesting and spam it back here to make yourself look I don't know... informed.
    Oh and bout the videogame bully, single mother parents will only buy them.

    I'm terribly sorry.  I didn't mean to grab your mouse and make you click on the topic.  Geez, man.  How can I make it up to you?

    How about this way, the next time you see a topic that was started by "reavo", I don't grab your mouse again and make you go to it?  Will that clear things up. 


    Or how bout just post your news source in your signature instead of giving off the influence that you find these links to stories from your vast knowledge of the internet?  People here aren't smart and, you know it.

    I'd much rather click on the news source site you get this stuff off instead of a thread you make about it.


    Dang, I know somebody who doesn't need to be playing the "Bully" game. 

    Relax dude, if you don't like the way somebody does something move on.  Don't be so manipulative.


    People used to make money off of information.  Since the internet was developed it's purpose was free information.  This setting is free information with a personal opinion.  If I post a news thread, now I just post the news with no opinion till after more post within.  But, oh well, I guess you can acuse me of bullying if bullying mean's challenging another's posting habits.  Most the time people don't know what to say because they cannot develop a valid opinion whereas theirs has already be taken.
  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X
    It would be best that you just copy and paste the news in the topic then give the link.

    I agree.
  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by gnomexxx

    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by reavo

    Originally posted by Vercades

    How about just posting the link to your news source in your signature and stop with the constant link threads about stuff?  I know you just find something on the site you wander on and post links to stories you find, interesting and spam it back here to make yourself look I don't know... informed.
    Oh and bout the videogame bully, single mother parents will only buy them.

    I'm terribly sorry.  I didn't mean to grab your mouse and make you click on the topic.  Geez, man.  How can I make it up to you?

    How about this way, the next time you see a topic that was started by "reavo", I don't grab your mouse again and make you go to it?  Will that clear things up. 


    Or how bout just post your news source in your signature instead of giving off the influence that you find these links to stories from your vast knowledge of the internet?  People here aren't smart and, you know it.

    I'd much rather click on the news source site you get this stuff off instead of a thread you make about it.


    Dang, I know somebody who doesn't need to be playing the "Bully" game. 

    Relax dude, if you don't like the way somebody does something move on.  Don't be so manipulative.


    People used to make money off of information.  Since the internet was developed it's purpose was free information.  This setting is free information with a personal opinion.  If I post a news thread, now I just post the news with no opinion till after more post within.  But, oh well, I guess you can acuse me of bullying if bullying mean's challenging another's posting habits.  Most the time people don't know because they cannot develop a valid opinion because theirs has already be taken.

    It looks like the OP posted to try to see what other people thought about this story (not trying to speek for anyone, just guessing).  That's valid.  Posting something out of curiosity seems fine to me.  He asked two valid questions.  Maybe he didn't have an opinion but found the whole thing interesting. 

    Just don't click on his links anymore if it makes you that mad. 

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  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065

    I posted a link with my opinion under the news.  The thread was filled up and I would get most active topic many times, it would then start filling with flames and many more things.  Way I see it, News then discussion, not News w/discussion.

  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X
    It would be best that you just copy and paste the news in the topic then give the link.
    I agree.

    Riki knows how to request something in a mannerly way.  If you would have said it like that, no problem.   I actually would have done it and not been bothered one bit.

    When you ask something the way you did in your original request, then I am not doing it for you.  No way.  I'm just weird like that.  You insult me and then want me to do what you ask?  B.S.!!! 

    If you don't like it then don't read my posts.

    Now, back to the topic, please...
  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050


    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X

    I know what all of you mean and I do agree that it could increase bullying, but there are many, many factors to how. ESRB, parents, children. I don't know why RockStar wanted to use elementary school kids, when they could have done highschool or college.


    Bullies don't exist in high school and college...If you were bullied in high school, you greatly lacked maturity and self-esteem, and so did your peers. Assholes didn't have friends at my high school.
    Now bullies in college, I have no clue. I'd love to hear about it.
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  • britocabritoca Member Posts: 1,484


    Originally posted by modjoe86

    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X
    I know what all of you mean and I do agree that it could increase bullying, but there are many, many factors to how. ESRB, parents, children. I don't know why RockStar wanted to use elementary school kids, when they could have done highschool or college.
    Bullies don't exist in high school and college...If you were bullied in high school, you greatly lacked maturity and self-esteem, and so did your peers. Assholes didn't have friends at my high school.Now bullies in college, I have no clue. I'd love to hear about it.

    yeah, I had no problems with bullies in high school as well. Maybe it's because I was myself one of the main bullies? hmmm, I wonder...

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453

    Well Modjoe, I'm happy for you that you live in a wonderful society where there are no bullies in high school. Where I come from there are bullies in high school, they most often travel in large packs, and they do ostricise, rob, and beat up on their peers. Why? I don't know, but I highly doubt it has anything to do with the lack of maturity or self etseem of those who are being bullied.

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050


    Originally posted by Theodoryk

    Well Modjoe, I'm happy for you that you live in a wonderful society where there are no bullies in high school. Where I come from there are bullies in high school, they most often travel in large packs, and they do ostricise, rob, and beat up on their peers. Why? I don't know, but I highly doubt it has anything to do with the lack of maturity or self etseem of those who are being bullied.


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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    Ah, so the whole point was to get under someone's skin? Good to know that you're just a sad a little forum troll. 

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