Originally posted by Kyoruto Originally posted by BladeMage3 For those of you dont know, in the warhammer universe, its spelt orks, not orcs, orKs, thats cause the wow orCs are a toned down, smarter version of the cool as (and much better) orKs of warhammer. Im going to be an ork in WAR, who else is?
Nope! We are chaos.... Chaos is strong! There shall be blood for the blood god.
will ther be pizza beer and cheap floozies for teh rest of us?
what I would love to see if the ork race elected a sort of "warboss" who would get everyone together into a big WAAGHH!! (where clans form together into a huge mass of warbands under a bigger, ususaly smarter ork, and go out to loot things)
TBH, i loved DAOC so much, if they just re - released DAOC, called it Warhammer, and just changed models/world i'd play it!
I think what Mythic did with DAOC was brilliant, the RVR system, siege, RP/RA, skill points (Though ppl always choose same for classes, or 2/3 of the same combination, the idea was still brilliant), Unique item generator... etc... the list goes on.
WAR will have nothing to do with WOW, but i have faith Mythic will do a good job.
yes. i dont see how these two games are really simaler at all. the graphics are actually good. mythic rocks hardcore (DAOC) and warhammer and warhammer 40K have tons of fanbase, plus alot,alot,alot,alot of story/lore to hold it up for like a kagillion expansion packs. hell warhammer fantasy has like 12 races. WoW= like 4 each side....5 soon. So yeah WAR is just going to be better. and i know people who work for mythic (when i played daoc) and there will be no lacking of the pve/pvp/rvr on any front. the game starts like 80% pve/20%rvr/pvp. and at "end" game its like 20% pve/ and 80% pvp/rvr. they have an intruiging "trophy" desing system. check the interview here. http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=1026 just scroll down and find e3 interview.
Originally posted by BladeMage3 For those of you dont know, in the warhammer universe, its spelt orks, not orcs, orKs, thats cause the wow orCs are a toned down, smarter version of the cool as (and much better) orKs of warhammer. Im going to be an ork in WAR, who else is?
Originally posted by BladeMage3 what I would love to see if the ork race elected a sort of "warboss" who would get everyone together into a big WAAGHH!! (where clans form together into a huge mass of warbands under a bigger, ususaly smarter ork, and go out to loot things)
It's spelled orc. Orks, are the race which you find within Warhammer 40k. Orcs, are the fantasy version. That said, the Orc Warboss isn't the smartest - He is the biggest, the baddest. He hierachy within the Orc tribes is.. If you can beat your leader, you become the leader. Survival of the fittest.
Originally posted by Wolfjunkie Originally posted by BladeMage3what I would love to see if the ork race elected a sort of "warboss" who would get everyone together into a big WAAGHH!! (where clans form together into a huge mass of warbands under a bigger, ususaly smarter ork, and go out to loot things) It's spelled orc. Orks, are the race which you find within Warhammer 40k. Orcs, are the fantasy version.That said, the Orc Warboss isn't the smartest - He is the biggest, the baddest. He hierachy within the Orc tribes is.. If you can beat your leader, you become the leader. Survival of the fittest.
Originally posted by arkasi I want to warn everybody not to expect too much from WAR - I believe, for myself, the initial kick which I got when I tried the DAoC beta and the first weeks of exploring the game won't hit me again. It remembered me of the days when I was playing ELITE for the first time. WoW was completly unable to keep any advanced PvP gamer playing, this is something which WAR must achive. But there must be something completly different to get that "kick" again - and I am quite sure WAR isn't able to give it to me. The only thing I want is a liviing game which lots of active players in a unknown RvR enviroment and a smooth balance between the realms. Now there are only two realms, the same mistake as in WoW, I would say. The three realms in DAoC were quite nice, but I believe Mythic did think this point over and has a solution, at least I hope so.
sorta agree with you. I think the 3 realm thing would have made pvp better.
Empire + Elves Vs Orcs&Dark elves Vs Chaos&Dwarves
I would rather group a neutreal faction with an evil faction and create a story as to why and have 3 realm free for all, rather than stick totally to the believable storyline and have a 3v3 two sided war.
Hell I would even go so far as to have a 4 sided war or even the origionaly thought about... 6 seperate realms each at war with eachother.
First of, i agree they will have a certain simarility, BUT, i think WAR will be a whole lot better, as it has everything that WoW has plus many more amazing arigional ideas that have never been used before.
Also WAR has everything for every type of mmo player... it has the millions of pages of lore behind it, it has the awsome pvp in which u gain as much exp and money from it as pve, and the pve in the game also helps towards the greater realm verses realm fight, so every one plays a part.
The first thing that caught my eyes was "dodgy lore". You really must understand the product before you judge it man. Warhammer has alot more lore under its belt than Warcraft. Everything in warhammer is invloved in the war even the quests, but the pve is balanced with it. The graphics,if one glances at them, do look similiar, but if you actually look at the screens, there is a HUGE difference.More detailed, I like the leveling system, hopefully mythic will do a good thing and make it feel were all not in some huge grinding fest.
I agree with the previous poster about Lore. Dodgy Lore? That is WoW, they completely change lore on a whim when they want to add something. Warhammer has more lore, and has been around longer than Warcraft.
I can't compare PvE or PvP on WAR yet, because I haven't played it. Based on what I seen, PvE and PvP will be better on WAR. The jury is still out on that one until people are able to play it and comment without a NDA.
I hope that when people play WAR they don't have to compare it to WoW, they just talk about it's strengths and complain about it's weaknesses on it's on.
i think blizzard is goint to add game features like race wars,estates,keeps sieges etc. to compete war in those arsenals to,you would agree that war is long way from now and blizzard have lots of time to develop features compete against war.What im certain is that fight between wow and war gonna be bloody
While blizzard has alot of time to compete with war before they come out I doupt thier going to do anything like estates and such. Their already concetrating on their burning crusade project. Besides the world of azeroth does not have enough landmass for keeps and estates and houses controlled by players.
Originally posted by ronan32 i can finally say it...raiders this game isnt for you..pvp or die...you dont know how many times the reverse has been said to me.
I don't know why but I found that really funny.
Siehst du mich Erkennst du mich Ganz tief in meinem Herz ist noch ein Platz f?r dich Ich suche dich Ich sehne mich nach dem was ich geliebt hab doch ich find es nicht
Originally posted by kraiden I would rather group a neutreal faction with an evil faction and create a story as to why and have 3 realm free for all, rather than stick totally to the believable storyline and have a 3v3 two sided war. Hell I would even go so far as to have a 4 sided war or even the origionaly thought about... 6 seperate realms each at war with eachother.
That would have no backing with the lore at all, look at the dev diaries the reason they picked WAR was because it would be easy to incorporate the 20 years of lore. I really can't see any balenced 6-ways going on, maybe Orks v Chaos & Darkelf vs High Elf Dwarf and human, but thats a 3v2v1 and still dosent make sense with the lore. If you want a 6-way, wait for a W40k MMO, circa 2012.
Mythic proved they do have the best pvp system. They plan on implementing that in WAR to. I think will be awesome. They have been around alot longer and they even mentioned they learned alot. *cough*TOA*cough. One of the best things about WAR coming after WOW is they will learn just from there forums what the client base wants. I have faith in Mythic of creating a mmo that I will enjoy. I am a pvper hardcore. WOW is an awesome game just like mentioned above shotting pvp system with the carrot on a stick. LOL. Good one. With no lvls it can put you in to battle at the very start. I like how your char will show physical nature of your skill base. last thing to mention.
Warcrafts lore was based off warhammers lore.... basicly if you read warhammer lore and then warcraft lore its almost the same with different names and the warcraft lore is more bare bones than warhammer.
WAR similarities to WoW - Similar UI and combat, races have a lot of the same names.
Differences - Races are totally different in their lore and feel...Dark elves bathe in the blood of their victims and kill for fun, not dance the night away (unless drenched in the aforementioned blood) Chaos, nuff said. *evil laughter here* PvP has a purpose (gasp). Highly developed lore that isn't going to change over time. WAR is darker, meaner, and grittier (see dark elves for example). Competition between factions is not an option...it's a requirement. All zebras have teeth (gasp). Community quests. RvR - this is not just group pvp, *everything* you do in the game influences the war effort against your enemies...pve included. NO GNOMES! The list goes on but I'm feeling lazy.
The bottom line is that while the UI and character controls will be similar, the goals, environment, atmosphere, and overall game experience will be totally different.
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will ther be pizza beer and cheap floozies for teh rest of us?
more than possible in this game. just listen to the loudmouthed orc asking you to join a BG.
BG=DaoC term for battle group. alot of several man crews joining together to accomplish an objective.
From there just rock out;)
TBH, i loved DAOC so much, if they just re - released DAOC, called it Warhammer, and just changed models/world i'd play it!
I think what Mythic did with DAOC was brilliant, the RVR system, siege, RP/RA, skill points (Though ppl always choose same for classes, or 2/3 of the same combination, the idea was still brilliant), Unique item generator... etc... the list goes on.
WAR will have nothing to do with WOW, but i have faith Mythic will do a good job.
http://uk.games-workshop.com/orcsandgoblins/
uhm.... no? it is spelled clearly ORCS.
ORKS. are the warhammer 40k ones.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
That said, the Orc Warboss isn't the smartest - He is the biggest, the baddest. He hierachy within the Orc tribes is.. If you can beat your leader, you become the leader. Survival of the fittest.
or simply, leadership for dummies
sorta agree with you.
I think the 3 realm thing would have made pvp better.
Empire + Elves Vs Orcs&Dark elves Vs Chaos&Dwarves
Well I think the three different racial versus pairings and the 2 realms works nicely for WAR.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
I would rather group a neutreal faction with an evil faction and create a story as to why and have 3 realm free for all, rather than stick totally to the believable storyline and have a 3v3 two sided war.
Hell I would even go so far as to have a 4 sided war or even the origionaly thought about... 6 seperate realms each at war with eachother.
First of, i agree they will have a certain simarility, BUT, i think WAR will be a whole lot better, as it has everything that WoW has plus many more amazing arigional ideas that have never been used before.
Also WAR has everything for every type of mmo player... it has the millions of pages of lore behind it, it has the awsome pvp in which u gain as much exp and money from it as pve, and the pve in the game also helps towards the greater realm verses realm fight, so every one plays a part.
Dodgy Lore? That is WoW, they completely change lore on a whim when they want to add something.
Warhammer has more lore, and has been around longer than Warcraft.
I can't compare PvE or PvP on WAR yet, because I haven't played it. Based on what I seen, PvE and PvP will be better on WAR. The jury is still out on that one until people are able to play it and comment without a NDA.
I hope that when people play WAR they don't have to compare it to WoW, they just talk about it's strengths and complain about it's weaknesses on it's on.
Just Laugh No Matter What!
Siehst du mich
Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
Mythic proved they do have the best pvp system. They plan on implementing that in WAR to. I think will be awesome. They have been around alot longer and they even mentioned they learned alot. *cough*TOA*cough. One of the best things about WAR coming after WOW is they will learn just from there forums what the client base wants. I have faith in Mythic of creating a mmo that I will enjoy. I am a pvper hardcore. WOW is an awesome game just like mentioned above shotting pvp system with the carrot on a stick. LOL. Good one. With no lvls it can put you in to battle at the very start. I like how your char will show physical nature of your skill base. last thing to mention.
WAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
WAR similarities to WoW - Similar UI and combat, races have a lot of the same names.
Differences - Races are totally different in their lore and feel...Dark elves bathe in the blood of their victims and kill for fun, not dance the night away (unless drenched in the aforementioned blood) Chaos, nuff said. *evil laughter here* PvP has a purpose (gasp). Highly developed lore that isn't going to change over time. WAR is darker, meaner, and grittier (see dark elves for example). Competition between factions is not an option...it's a requirement. All zebras have teeth (gasp). Community quests. RvR - this is not just group pvp, *everything* you do in the game influences the war effort against your enemies...pve included. NO GNOMES! The list goes on but I'm feeling lazy.
The bottom line is that while the UI and character controls will be similar, the goals, environment, atmosphere, and overall game experience will be totally different.
Apples and oranges ladies and gents.
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