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More people playing Heroes and villains
newchemicals
Member Posts: 43
Funny that I am seeing more people playing city of heroes can city of villains. When Cov came out it was about 70 - 30 in favor of villains. After about 3 months that went to 50 - 50. Now its about 60-40 in favor of heroes.
I makes me think the balaince issues in cov *cough* Dominators *cough* and the limited role of Stalkers in PvE are part of the problem. It does suggest that cov needs more work as I7 which was supposed to be a big CoV update less than 2 months ago has not created the buzz the devs wanted in cov.
I hope cryptic gets their act together and not say "Working as intended" 
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Hiya,
Well, I dunno if those numbers are accurate, but dominators are like ghost, there is like none of them. Stalkers...well, between you and me, if you can play a scrapper, why play a stalker? Yes stalker do more damage, especially at start, but they are also extremely fragile. Scrappers are close to the brutes, very close indeed. And honestly, you don't need the extra damage difference between scrapper and stalker, they do plenty...just like you don't need Broadsword at all and rather take another sources, like spines.
MMs are fun, but well, when you have 3 MMs in a group, it start to be bothering everyone.
Brutes are really a mix between tankers and scrappers, they are good and nice.
Corruptors are fine as well...but I think they destroy the dominators, peoples are used that peoples who CC, they have the buffs or some nice stuff...now Corruptors are Wizards who also happen to be the best buffers. See, the battles go FAST, the enemies drop FAST, CC lose a lot of interest for a group, why CC if you can destroy instead and get XP before you proceed to the next group and gain even more XP...especially if the nuker is also a buffer, now it get droolicious. I don't blame Cryptic, they must have think in conventional ways, yes in EQ the CC was important, in CoH to CC instead of killing is...silly. Mobs die fast, so CC is pointless. Now if the dominators could CC heroes in the Recluse TF, they would start getting some use, especially if you do more circomstance where you need them to CC heroes...but atm, I don't know if they can even CC a purple boss effectively, even less a hero.
So you have Brutes and Corruptors which are fine and we have nothing to say against. MMs are fine except that they get on the nerves of their groupmates with 6 pets+ each (or only 3 if they are nice and sacrificing some damage). Stalkers would be okay, but it is just hard to get the peoples motivated to play them, yes they are fine and all, but...a thief in a FAST game, it take nerves to play them, I see wonderful stalkers, but it take constant attention and 1 mistake = dead stalker. Dominators nobody wants to play them, less damage than corruptor, no buffs, that take some dedication to stick with a dominator that only have CC and well, CC are not really useful atm.
If I would have to say what the average group I experience in CoV was...it would be somthing like:
3 brutes
1 Stalker
3 Corruptors
1 MM
You would have on the side in smaller groups/soloing: 5 others MM, 2 brutes, 1 stalker and 2 corruptors and IF you are lucky, you have 5% chance to see a Dominator!
In EQ for example, you have a character that specialised in DAMAGE like the Corruptor/Stalker/Brute, a character that specialised in tanking like the Brute (tanker and maybe scrapper fit here in heroes), a character that buff like the Corruptor and a character that heal like the Corruptor. See, the corruptor fit in 3 of the basics groups of EQ and he is the most damaging, far ahead of anyone. But again, EQ is a SLOW game, where CC is important and it would have been bestowed to the buffer the role to CC in EQ. Stuff could be done in another way, but usually, whatever class is dealing the most damage, it doesn't fill another role.
EDIT: The MM is also a buffer and/or a healer on top of been a heavy damage dealer with 6 pets.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
In the case of dominators, if you take the total # of people logged in the server and not hiding, dominators will make up between 6 and 12% of the server population depending on when you take a sample. Tonight it was just over 7% on Champion. So yeah, I can in fact believe 5% as an accurate number.
Of course Dominator fanbois will say Dominators are just fine. Sure, I can solo a mission on relentless in 10 minutes, never mind the fact my brute can do the very same mission in 3 and a half.
Well anyways, I would hope cryptic smells the coffee and tries to fix some of these issues before the hardcore fans get annoyed enough and leave.
Might be the server your on or the time of day to.Stalkers have a bit of a learning curve an semi set playstyle that doesnt fit with many.Soloed my 4th run at a stalker to 20 pretty much.Made it harder on my self with power picks but at 24 hes starting to shine.Um also many hate the stalker not just scouting a mission but opeing up the whole map .As it can become a needle in a hay stack type hunt to find missing mobs in a kill all missions
Dominaotors are another ArchType that seems to have a certian playstyle. Had a Psi/Psi one to 20 got bored with it. Was to easy solo an death/debt wish on teams.Also CoH did get a Graphic update as well,but on protector it seems about the same.Well their is more higher level Villians now in those new zones from I7.Which would make less people playing lower level Villians.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard, The Tower of the Elephant (1933)
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Exactly.
I bought CoV as an upgrade to CoH. Tried a few chars, got them into the high 20s, but at the end of the day I simply don't like it and just play CoH now. CoV is gloomy, missions are even more repetitive than CoH, it lags like hell, and I have no interest in PvP.... didn't even bother going back to it after I7
put me down against the "New Car" checklist.
Exactly, I'll still play if a few friends decide to jump over, but otherwise I just have 100x more fun on CoH.
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