Originally posted by Jixxala DD, I am curious and just trying to get to the truth of this too. I see a few people asking Pix to post his contract here. Unless you are a lawyer in the county/region that pix is incorporated there is precious little you could do with a posted international contract. Becuase I am curious and want to get to the truth of the matter would you please be so kiind as to:
1.Post your birth certificate in triplicate with authorizing .jpg of your fingerprint and retinal scan so we can be sure you are who you say you are.
2.Please post you legal information such as drivers licence and/or country ID card. Be sure your signature is clearly visable as is your address and ID numbers.
3.Post any formal education certificates, diplomas etc. from certified universities along with your student ID number so that we can cross check with the intitution. Also please post a current photo including a daily newspaper along with a dated photo from the institution, such as can easily be found on your ID card.
4.Finally please post you real world address so that we can contact you at our pleasure. And the names and addresses of three close family members and three non-family references.
Don't want to do this? Hmmm sounds fishy to me. If you would expect me to post one of my contracts on this site I would expect the site to be secure enough that you could post all of that information so I knew who was perusing my personal private contracts. Your request is a little rediculous. Even if he justifies the situation to your satisfaction it will not influence his court case. Your (or my) approval or disaproval is irrelevant.
look i am a fan of DnL the idea behind the game. trust me i not NP3 or Farlan.
PIX i know IKshadow in game not well he is the leader of a Dark guild in DnL.
i think he is taken his hate out on you. becouse he believes most of the problems in the game where becouse of you leaving the team.
he thinks it all your falt he was looking forward to this game like so many. and your the one person that could have made the game work.Yet you pulled the plug and left.
now as for what is in the contract i do not know. If all is like you say then they have done you wrong, and have done us the same way.
Ikshadow is upset that becouse they did you wrong, and that you also gave up on us as well as them. again If all is as you say i can not blame you at all for leaving the game. i wish you would fixed the game make it work and make everyone happy. then wile there making money and lots of money sue them. you should get more or at least get what you asked for.
its just sad its all worked out this way.
hope you under stand way some people are pissed off at you. they see the resion the game does not work is becouse you left.
look i am a fan of DnL the idea behind the game. trust me i not NP3 or Farlan.
I played EQ and EQ2 SWG toons name "Dekamore"
I know DD, and I am not really challenging you on that. I am only pointing out that in reality if Pix were to post his contract here it, or likely any specific details about it, it could completely invalidate his case. Public disclosure is often looked at rather dimly. It could in fact be illegal for him to do so and then Farlan could sue him. I know it is silly, but sometimes that is how things work. Further, lets say he could do it and did it. Then what? He could fake a contract easily, so just because he post something does not make it real. IK will tear it apart even if it is the real contract and others will doubt.
The bottom line is you can believe him or not. He could be a 14 year old kid having a great guffaw at us arguing over the whole thing, then again he could be what he says he is. Either way, I doubt you will get any proof until the case is finalized, and even then the only way to really find out what went down is to petition the public court records. It should only cost a few hundred US dollars to get the transcript. They are not avalable in digital format, of any form, so don't bother trying to get that. But the court records are almost always made public after the hearing is over, so you can get them. In one of the post here, I think he list the case number. Find where it is filed and do some digging if you are that interested.
Jixxala Pegasus Foundation -Leadership team -Chapter leader
_Pix_ , I am not familiar with IP law in France, and I understand that International IP tends to be a legal free-for-all. However, IP/Trademark laws in the United States REQUIRES that Patent/Trademark holders to actively protect their IP. Therefore, a lot of seemingly petty lawsuits are conducted to maintain a firm legal grip on their IP and strengthen their position against future challenges.
As for IKShadow, I believe there are still individuals on this forum that are still waiting for those links backing up your earlier assertions. Wouldn't it be better to settle those issues first, before making even more unsubstantiated claims. This is not a personal attack but a statement of fact that I can back up with links if need be.
Originally posted by DeadDOG PIX i know IKshadow in game not well he is the leader of a Dark guild in DnL. i think he is taken his hate out on you. becouse he believes most of the problems in the game where becouse of you leaving the team. he thinks it all your falt he was looking forward to this game like so many. and your the one person that could have made the game work.Yet you pulled the plug and left. now as for what is in the contract i do not know. If all is like you say then they have done you wrong, and have done us the same way. Ikshadow is upset that becouse they did you wrong, and that you also gave up on us as well as them. again If all is as you say i can not blame you at all for leaving the game. i wish you would fixed the game make it work and make everyone happy. then wile there making money and lots of money sue them. you should get more or at least get what you asked for. its just sad its all worked out this way. hope you under stand way some people are pissed off at you. they see the resion the game does not work is becouse you left.
So this is what it was all about from the start. Deaddog, you are an idiot. To believe that one person and one person only is the one responsible for the shitty azz game that was produced is hilariously idiotic. To believe that one person and one person only can make this game work is another hilariously idiotic thought. To believe that all of this falls on just one member of the team leaving is yet another hilariously idiotic thought.
Must you be reminded that not ONLY did _Pix_ leave but so did SEVERAL OTHER TEAM MEMBERS???????? It doesnt take ONE person to make a game work. Resting this load of crap of a game on one mans shoulders is completely idiotic and only shows how much you DONT understand about how games are made nor run.
Get off his back. Get off the idea that its all because only he left. SEVERAL TEAM MEMBERS LEFT!!!!!!!!! Get it?
The game is a piece of crap because the ones that know their work, have experience, have good business morals as well as personal morals ALL LEFT NP3/FARLAN. The ones responsible for managing all of it are the ones you should be pissed off at. Lay the blame where it belongs. Vuuar owns the blame. ALL of it.
Originally posted by Ahotare _Pix_ , I am not familiar with IP law in France, and I understand that International IP tends to be a legal free-for-all. However, IP/Trademark laws in the United States REQUIRES that Patent/Trademark holders to actively protect their IP. Therefore, a lot of seemingly petty lawsuits are conducted to maintain a firm legal grip on their IP and strengthen their position against future challenges. As for IKShadow, I believe there are still individuals on this forum that are still waiting for those links backing up your earlier assertions. Wouldn't it be better to settle those issues first, before making even more unsubstantiated claims. This is not a personal attack but a statement of fact that I can back up with links if need be.
Which ones hasnt he shown? You trying to pull crap outta the handle now too? You asking for bs you can find by READING HIS SITE???? READING THE OTHER THREADS??? READING THE DAMN FORUM BEFORE pushing your bull here? If you HAD READ, you would have seen IK even stated himself hes only doing it for kicks. He doesnt give a f**** about the answers. Stop the frickin drama. You look stupid as hell.
No matter how much you try, no matter how you try to say it, you will NOT discredit this man nor his work. It dips now to the NP3/Farlan BS hole of scumbags such as these recent posts. ITs the only thing they got left to try to hit.
READ. and like Cholayna says, COMPREHEND what the hell you are reading and you will see just how messed up these posts by you and others like you make it even more evident of the NP3 unethical and sleazy ways.
BadT you must be really bright to no see that i did not say he was the only one to blame but that most of the people in the game blame him for all of it.
so now you shown your age BadT by flying off and calling names like a child.
with out reading what is said. maybe next time you will hold your tongue. becouse if you try to start a "Flame war" here all you will do i prove to everyone that your IQ is less then your age. i have not started calling PIX names.
...........................................do not try to Hijack my Discussion....................................
PIX these forums are full of Flamers and spamers. thanks for your posts and again if all you say is true Good luck in Court, If it has to go that far.
Originally posted by DeadDOG BadT you must be really bright to no see that i did not say he was the only one to blame but that most of the people in the game blame him for all of it. so now you shown your age BadT by flying off and calling names like a child. with out reading what is said. maybe next time you will hold your tongue. becouse if you try to start a "Flame war" here all you will do i prove to everyone that your IQ is less then your age. i have not started calling PIX names. ...........................................do not try to Hijack my Discussion.................................... PIX these forums are full of Flamers and spamers. thanks for your posts and again if all you say is true Good luck in Court, If it has to go that far.
Since you find it well enough to speak for IK, I think I will take the liberty and speak for BadT. Your reply to his post is even more disjointed. As far as "most of the ppl in the game" I think you ought to ask around a bit more. There happens to be a few still in the game here who have responded to the threads regarding _Pix_. They dont blame him at all. They understand how things work. They have at least a more tangible idea of how a mmorpg is made than you and the "most ppl in the game" seem to. SO technically, your statement is false.
I also dont see where he called you any names at all. SO again, another one of your statements is false.
I do believe he read the entire thread by his reply post. IT wasnt a "flame war". IT was a sensible and logical post. AGain, since you find it well to speak for IK , even though you state you know him not well yet seem to know what/how/why he is attacking _Pix_ and you have jumped on the bandwagon. I agree with BadT, if you yourself had read the posts, read the other threads, you would have seen IK is doing it for his own jollies. Not for any sense of anger venting (which btw is also idiotic and inappropriate) but solely for the purpose of "having fun".
I also do not see where you were accused of calling others names. I do see tho you yourself have called ppl names- those like me and him, you called us all flamers and spammers. Any name calling here is done all by you yourself.
As far as his attempt to "hijack" this discussion, I do believe you started this on an open forum, in an open thread and have responded to several open posts within this thread. This is part of the discussion. A discussion, a mature discussion, is where both sides of the coin are heard. Simply because you have essentially and with great effort shown that this thread and your accusations framed as questions could only possibly have one motive. The fact that you did NOT research as much as your claim to wish to understand this situation shouts loudly of the baseless and trolling thread you yourself started. That was his reply post. People here are entitled to their own opinions here. His I do believe showed much more sense, much more cohesion and much more forethought than your entire reason and your own false accusations more clearly than his does. Remember, a discussion is both sides.
This topic has been discussed several times. There are a few open threads as you wrote this about this very topic. There is no need to harass this man. His answers are there, have been there and he has explained all he needs to. New threads such as yours are merely and clearly harassment of this man as a member of this forum.
Originally posted by BadT Originally posted by Ahotare _Pix_ , I am not familiar with IP law in France, and I understand that International IP tends to be a legal free-for-all. However, IP/Trademark laws in the United States REQUIRES that Patent/Trademark holders to actively protect their IP. Therefore, a lot of seemingly petty lawsuits are conducted to maintain a firm legal grip on their IP and strengthen their position against future challenges. As for IKShadow, I believe there are still individuals on this forum that are still waiting for those links backing up your earlier assertions. Wouldn't it be better to settle those issues first, before making even more unsubstantiated claims. This is not a personal attack but a statement of fact that I can back up with links if need be.
Which ones hasnt he shown? You trying to pull crap outta the handle now too? You asking for bs you can find by READING HIS SITE???? READING THE OTHER THREADS??? READING THE DAMN FORUM BEFORE pushing your bull here? If you HAD READ, you would have seen IK even stated himself hes only doing it for kicks. He doesnt give a f**** about the answers. Stop the frickin drama. You look stupid as hell.
No matter how much you try, no matter how you try to say it, you will NOT discredit this man nor his work. It dips now to the NP3/Farlan BS hole of scumbags such as these recent posts. ITs the only thing they got left to try to hit.
READ. and like Cholayna says, COMPREHEND what the hell you are reading and you will see just how messed up these posts by you and others like you make it even more evident of the NP3 unethical and sleazy ways.
Whoa, chill out...
I have read these forums - did you think I was referring to IK or _Pix_ when I referred to unsubstantiated assertions?
I said, I have read posts from people on this forum looking for evidence to back up their assertions - _Pix_ has more than delivered. So, that just leaves one other person...
Secondly, my post is intended to inform others that whatever _Pix_ or anyone else may feel about the matter, he may be compelled to sue anyways, if only to prevent having to go through the mess all over again in the future.
Originally posted by DeadDOG Originally posted by Jixxala DD, I am curious and just trying to get to the truth of this too. I see a few people asking Pix to post his contract here. Unless you are a lawyer in the county/region that pix is incorporated there is precious little you could do with a posted international contract. Becuase I am curious and want to get to the truth of the matter would you please be so kiind as to:
1.Post your birth certificate in triplicate with authorizing .jpg of your fingerprint and retinal scan so we can be sure you are who you say you are.
2.Please post you legal information such as drivers licence and/or country ID card. Be sure your signature is clearly visable as is your address and ID numbers.
3.Post any formal education certificates, diplomas etc. from certified universities along with your student ID number so that we can cross check with the intitution. Also please post a current photo including a daily newspaper along with a dated photo from the institution, such as can easily be found on your ID card.
4.Finally please post you real world address so that we can contact you at our pleasure. And the names and addresses of three close family members and three non-family references.
Don't want to do this? Hmmm sounds fishy to me. If you would expect me to post one of my contracts on this site I would expect the site to be secure enough that you could post all of that information so I knew who was perusing my personal private contracts. Your request is a little rediculous. Even if he justifies the situation to your satisfaction it will not influence his court case. Your (or my) approval or disaproval is irrelevant.
look i am a fan of DnL the idea behind the game. trust me i not NP3 or Farlan.
I played EQ and EQ2 SWG toons name "Dekamore"
0.0 Ayup, that explains alot and answers the posters question thoroughly.
Originally posted by Ahotare I said, I have read posts from people on this forum looking for evidence to back up their assertions - _Pix_ has more than delivered. So, that just leaves one other person...
You got that right
IK as well as a few others have NEVER come through with their own evidence of the ridiculous crap they throw out. Pure harrassment through and through.
_Pix_ OWNS AND CREATED the technology used in the DNL game. www.pourieux.com that the devs as well as a few of the AD gang insists belong to NPFleece/Farceland. VWORLDTerrain is and always has been _Pix_'s creation.
Farceland/NPfleece/Allchemical Dreams have more than shown their complete and utter disregard to their own community as well as the mmorpg community as a whole by their deceptive, unethical and ill-conceived practices.
Originally posted by Cholayna Originally posted by Ahotare I said, I have read posts from people on this forum looking for evidence to back up their assertions - _Pix_ has more than delivered. So, that just leaves one other person...
You got that right
IK as well as a few others have NEVER come through with their own evidence of the ridiculous crap they throw out. Pure harrassment through and through.
_Pix_ OWNS AND CREATED the technology used in the DNL game. www.pourieux.com that the devs as well as a few of the AD gang insists belong to NPFleece/Farceland. VWORLDTerrain is and always has been _Pix_'s creation.
Farceland/NPfleece/Allchemical Dreams have more than shown their complete and utter disregard to their own community as well as the mmorpg community as a whole by their deceptive, unethical and ill-conceived practices.
IK has been shown to be a bit on the soft side when it comes to the obvious in many things. Reminds me of the leader of the Farlan gang. Moronic statements and inane questions slides a little too much to not be a family member of Vuuar LOL
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look i am a fan of DnL the idea behind the game. trust me i not NP3 or Farlan.
I played EQ and EQ2 SWG toons name "Dekamore"
www.DigitalMindz.com
PIX i know IKshadow in game not well he is the leader of a Dark guild in DnL.
i think he is taken his hate out on you. becouse he believes most of the problems in the game where becouse of you leaving the team.
he thinks it all your falt he was looking forward to this game like so many. and your the one person that could have made the game work.Yet you pulled the plug and left.
now as for what is in the contract i do not know. If all is like you say then they have done you wrong, and have done us the same way.
Ikshadow is upset that becouse they did you wrong, and that you also gave up on us as well as them. again If all is as you say i can not blame you at all for leaving the game. i wish you would fixed the game make it work and make everyone happy. then wile there making money and lots of money sue them. you should get more or at least get what you asked for.
its just sad its all worked out this way.
hope you under stand way some people are pissed off at you. they see the resion the game does not work is becouse you left.
www.DigitalMindz.com
look i am a fan of DnL the idea behind the game. trust me i not NP3 or Farlan.
I played EQ and EQ2 SWG toons name "Dekamore"
I know DD, and I am not really challenging you on that. I am only pointing out that in reality if Pix were to post his contract here it, or likely any specific details about it, it could completely invalidate his case. Public disclosure is often looked at rather dimly. It could in fact be illegal for him to do so and then Farlan could sue him. I know it is silly, but sometimes that is how things work. Further, lets say he could do it and did it. Then what? He could fake a contract easily, so just because he post something does not make it real. IK will tear it apart even if it is the real contract and others will doubt.
The bottom line is you can believe him or not. He could be a 14 year old kid having a great guffaw at us arguing over the whole thing, then again he could be what he says he is. Either way, I doubt you will get any proof until the case is finalized, and even then the only way to really find out what went down is to petition the public court records. It should only cost a few hundred US dollars to get the transcript. They are not avalable in digital format, of any form, so don't bother trying to get that. But the court records are almost always made public after the hearing is over, so you can get them. In one of the post here, I think he list the case number. Find where it is filed and do some digging if you are that interested.
Jixxala
Pegasus Foundation
-Leadership team
-Chapter leader
_Pix_ , I am not familiar with IP law in France, and I understand that International IP tends to be a legal free-for-all. However, IP/Trademark laws in the United States REQUIRES that Patent/Trademark holders to actively protect their IP. Therefore, a lot of seemingly petty lawsuits are conducted to maintain a firm legal grip on their IP and strengthen their position against future challenges.
As for IKShadow, I believe there are still individuals on this forum that are still waiting for those links backing up your earlier assertions. Wouldn't it be better to settle those issues first, before making even more unsubstantiated claims. This is not a personal attack but a statement of fact that I can back up with links if need be.
So this is what it was all about from the start. Deaddog, you are an idiot. To believe that one person and one person only is the one responsible for the shitty azz game that was produced is hilariously idiotic. To believe that one person and one person only can make this game work is another hilariously idiotic thought. To believe that all of this falls on just one member of the team leaving is yet another hilariously idiotic thought.
Must you be reminded that not ONLY did _Pix_ leave but so did SEVERAL OTHER TEAM MEMBERS???????? It doesnt take ONE person to make a game work. Resting this load of crap of a game on one mans shoulders is completely idiotic and only shows how much you DONT understand about how games are made nor run.
Get off his back. Get off the idea that its all because only he left. SEVERAL TEAM MEMBERS LEFT!!!!!!!!! Get it?
The game is a piece of crap because the ones that know their work, have experience, have good business morals as well as personal morals ALL LEFT NP3/FARLAN. The ones responsible for managing all of it are the ones you should be pissed off at. Lay the blame where it belongs. Vuuar owns the blame. ALL of it.
Which ones hasnt he shown? You trying to pull crap outta the handle now too? You asking for bs you can find by READING HIS SITE???? READING THE OTHER THREADS??? READING THE DAMN FORUM BEFORE pushing your bull here? If you HAD READ, you would have seen IK even stated himself hes only doing it for kicks. He doesnt give a f**** about the answers. Stop the frickin drama. You look stupid as hell.
No matter how much you try, no matter how you try to say it, you will NOT discredit this man nor his work. It dips now to the NP3/Farlan BS hole of scumbags such as these recent posts. ITs the only thing they got left to try to hit.
READ. and like Cholayna says, COMPREHEND what the hell you are reading and you will see just how messed up these posts by you and others like you make it even more evident of the NP3 unethical and sleazy ways.
What happens when people talk about PiX and Mafate 2 on the DnL forums and that PiX intervenes to say that it will never be ready for september?
The answer here: http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67592&page=4&pp=20
BadT you must be really bright to no see that i did not say he was the only one to blame but that most of the people in the game blame him for all of it.
so now you shown your age BadT by flying off and calling names like a child.
with out reading what is said. maybe next time you will hold your tongue. becouse if you try to start a "Flame war" here all you will do i prove to everyone that your IQ is less then your age. i have not started calling PIX names.
...........................................do not try to Hijack my Discussion....................................
PIX these forums are full of Flamers and spamers. thanks for your posts and again if all you say is true Good luck in Court, If it has to go that far.
www.DigitalMindz.com
Since you find it well enough to speak for IK, I think I will take the liberty and speak for BadT. Your reply to his post is even more disjointed. As far as "most of the ppl in the game" I think you ought to ask around a bit more. There happens to be a few still in the game here who have responded to the threads regarding _Pix_. They dont blame him at all. They understand how things work. They have at least a more tangible idea of how a mmorpg is made than you and the "most ppl in the game" seem to. SO technically, your statement is false.
I also dont see where he called you any names at all. SO again, another one of your statements is false.
I do believe he read the entire thread by his reply post. IT wasnt a "flame war". IT was a sensible and logical post. AGain, since you find it well to speak for IK , even though you state you know him not well yet seem to know what/how/why he is attacking _Pix_ and you have jumped on the bandwagon. I agree with BadT, if you yourself had read the posts, read the other threads, you would have seen IK is doing it for his own jollies. Not for any sense of anger venting (which btw is also idiotic and inappropriate) but solely for the purpose of "having fun".
I also do not see where you were accused of calling others names. I do see tho you yourself have called ppl names- those like me and him, you called us all flamers and spammers. Any name calling here is done all by you yourself.
As far as his attempt to "hijack" this discussion, I do believe you started this on an open forum, in an open thread and have responded to several open posts within this thread. This is part of the discussion. A discussion, a mature discussion, is where both sides of the coin are heard. Simply because you have essentially and with great effort shown that this thread and your accusations framed as questions could only possibly have one motive. The fact that you did NOT research as much as your claim to wish to understand this situation shouts loudly of the baseless and trolling thread you yourself started. That was his reply post. People here are entitled to their own opinions here. His I do believe showed much more sense, much more cohesion and much more forethought than your entire reason and your own false accusations more clearly than his does. Remember, a discussion is both sides.
This topic has been discussed several times. There are a few open threads as you wrote this about this very topic. There is no need to harass this man. His answers are there, have been there and he has explained all he needs to. New threads such as yours are merely and clearly harassment of this man as a member of this forum.
Which ones hasnt he shown? You trying to pull crap outta the handle now too? You asking for bs you can find by READING HIS SITE???? READING THE OTHER THREADS??? READING THE DAMN FORUM BEFORE pushing your bull here? If you HAD READ, you would have seen IK even stated himself hes only doing it for kicks. He doesnt give a f**** about the answers. Stop the frickin drama. You look stupid as hell.
No matter how much you try, no matter how you try to say it, you will NOT discredit this man nor his work. It dips now to the NP3/Farlan BS hole of scumbags such as these recent posts. ITs the only thing they got left to try to hit.
READ. and like Cholayna says, COMPREHEND what the hell you are reading and you will see just how messed up these posts by you and others like you make it even more evident of the NP3 unethical and sleazy ways.
Whoa, chill out...
I have read these forums - did you think I was referring to IK or _Pix_ when I referred to unsubstantiated assertions?
I said, I have read posts from people on this forum looking for evidence to back up their assertions - _Pix_ has more than delivered. So, that just leaves one other person...
Secondly, my post is intended to inform others that whatever _Pix_ or anyone else may feel about the matter, he may be compelled to sue anyways, if only to prevent having to go through the mess all over again in the future.
look i am a fan of DnL the idea behind the game. trust me i not NP3 or Farlan.
I played EQ and EQ2 SWG toons name "Dekamore"
0.0 Ayup, that explains alot and answers the posters question thoroughly.
You got that right
IK as well as a few others have NEVER come through with their own evidence of the ridiculous crap they throw out. Pure harrassment through and through.
_Pix_ OWNS AND CREATED the technology used in the DNL game. www.pourieux.com that the devs as well as a few of the AD gang insists belong to NPFleece/Farceland. VWORLDTerrain is and always has been _Pix_'s creation.
Farceland/NPfleece/Allchemical Dreams have more than shown their complete and utter disregard to their own community as well as the mmorpg community as a whole by their deceptive, unethical and ill-conceived practices.
You got that right
IK as well as a few others have NEVER come through with their own evidence of the ridiculous crap they throw out. Pure harrassment through and through.
_Pix_ OWNS AND CREATED the technology used in the DNL game. www.pourieux.com that the devs as well as a few of the AD gang insists belong to NPFleece/Farceland. VWORLDTerrain is and always has been _Pix_'s creation.
Farceland/NPfleece/Allchemical Dreams have more than shown their complete and utter disregard to their own community as well as the mmorpg community as a whole by their deceptive, unethical and ill-conceived practices.
IK has been shown to be a bit on the soft side when it comes to the obvious in many things. Reminds me of the leader of the Farlan gang. Moronic statements and inane questions slides a little too much to not be a family member of Vuuar LOL