Never apologise for speaking your mind ^^ Hell, at least I know I'm not the only one out here in MMO-land who would like to see Auction Houses (or at the very least MOBILE player shops) implemented in KMMO imports. It is SERIOUSLY crippling to the ability for a player to survive (never mind getting ahead) in a market that is designed on AFK-static-shops when the player cannot stay jacked into the game all hours of the year.
Seriously, though, why EXACTLY did this style of player-marketing develop and entrench itself in Korean gaming? Is it a handshake with the Internet Cafes? All these 'afk-activities' would equal a massive boost to the income of the Cafes who are charging, what, an hourly rate? I can't see ANY other reason for the gross penetration of this game mechanic in so many KMMOs. AFK resource gathering, afk fishing, afk player shops, so much time-consuming afk crapola. Great moneymaker for hourly connexion billings tho ^^
i mean, if some game doesn't fulfil my criteria i woun't play it... i sincerely doubt that someone will implement all those things u mentioned, unless a lead programmer gets the green light...
there's no point in wondering why are certain games the way they are... if u don't like it - don't play it...
I played Dekaron for awhile, played most Korean and Japanese MMORPG since Lineage/Ragnarok and subscribed to most western MMORPG's as well.
And... Dekaron is mediocre, it only has the blood that stand out from other MMORPG's.
I don't see how they'll drastically change the gameplay with this game other than translating and maybe adjust the grind.
But I guess the most appealing about this game for all of you is the M rating due to "gore" (which is not that great) and the really most appealing is the free of charge due to annoying ads that will fill your bar.
Would be nice if they make it more twitch based so it becomes really extreme action orientated not just a port which it seems to become with less grind.
Goodness gracious and Gods almighty, Girith. You are a real work of art. I was gonna shake your hand after the last exchange between us but now you have proven yourself unworthy.
'If you don't like KMMOs why play them?' There happen to be some really cool KMMOs out there. I happen to like them. The PROBLEM is that I cannot economically SURVIVE them. They have an obsolete design that frustrates the SH*T outta me and I feel that developers here need to start spending the bling to FIX them. They are currently copping out, cutting corners, and importing ANACHRONISTIC designs over to the West in order to make cheaply got profits.
I am voicing the problems and issues that need to be focused on by developers. I am challenging new devs to stop taking the easy way out. I am stating a case to bring KMMOs into a new era.
You probably are interested in the free ride that the ad-campaign in this game will offer you. I actually spend cash in these F2P games' Game Shops. I know that there are MANY who do just the same as I.
You want me to leave your sandbox coz I don't like the fact that it is too small and the monkey bars are rusted. You're telling me to get out if I want shiny new ones. I'm telling you, fix the monkey bars and widen the sandbox and more people will spend money in there.
Your way of thinking is BAD business, my friend. Take some management classes.
this is my way of thinking: -i see a game -if the screens and etc. on the official website is interesting i try it -if i like it i keep playin and IF NOT I DON'T PLAY IT
nobody is forcing u too play if u can't handle the economical side of the KMMOs (I wonder how millions of ppl are managing to make some money, becouse u make it sound immposible)...
i think most ppl who play games are like me, and not "trying to change the world" - who are u too "voice the problems and issues that need to be focused on by developers. Too challenge new devs to stop taking the easy way out. I am stating a case to bring KMMOs into a new era." i wonder what have u achieved by arguing here with me... sure, u have some grate ideas, but they will never get to see the sunlight becouse you sad so, rather becouse somebody else (with the right position in the gaming market) will get too it also...
as i said in my first post - go grab a beer and chill couse there's nothing u can do about it...
And we are gonna continue this off-topic chat here, kenji, if you can't handle it then go check out another forum.
Girith, I have a parable for you. Imagine this: the Koreans decide to make some really really cool cars. Sexy as all get out. They have really nice chassis. Everything about em is a dream.
Except: they have no power steering. You ever drive a car without power steering? Or power brakes? Do you realise that those two innovations and modernisations are what made cars accessible to the greater public back in the day?
So, since I am too weak to drive a car w/o power steering or power brakes, your answer is 'go buy a Ford'. Then, when I take issue with you for your bullshit answer, you tell me 'If you don't like Korean Cars then why drive them?'
But, the point is, I LIKE the Korean Cars, but I can't enjoy driving them, I can't drive them PERIOD, coz they have no power steering. So, why do these cars have no modern controls that allow the larger population to be able to drive them? The Western car distributors are to bloody cheap to update the cars they are importing from Korea.
Once again, you are WAY off base with your assault on me. I don't give a goddamn that KMMOs are designed this way, it is outdated and BROKEN. You, Sir, are arguing for stagnation. You, Sir, are arguing in defence of lazy and corner-cutting publishing practices.
You guys do realise that you can be reported for hijacking threads and sending them way off topic, this is my topic for people who are excited about the game to post in, it is not a thread for you two to have your childish disputes in.
So your off topic ranting is over here, go make your own thread or argue with each other over instant messenger.
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well said. i've been to many forum and i cant believe you guys dont know basic rules back to topic, im very much looking forward in this game that im playing the dekaron atm
Id have to agree with Stalinfalcon... I dont see why they dont implement Auctions in these Korean games. I dont get it. Auctions are a great way to make money and helps the economy bigtime. Some of the sole reasons of why I never bothered to go afk with my stall in the KMMO's is because i either couldnt go afk at the time or was actually playing the game.
This is one thing Id like to see gone in 2moons. Being an asian game is a blessing and a curse.
Another thing id like to see is more flexibility on classes. I personally hate classes, and there are very few MMO's that are completely skill based. There are supposed to be a ton of skills in this game, so maybe I can customize it that way.
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nothing will happen with your aguement. i do like that idea, auction or maybe a walking store, but as far as ive seen, that wont happen soon, unless the gonna remake the whole game. Maybe you could conntact developer and suggest that. hope the release it and upda te it constant ly, 1year is long to wait
Hey I just started looking at this game today, I recently quit world of warcraft because it just took up too much time, is there going to be a monthly payment for this? And whats the gameplay going to be like, I have been trying to look around for this info but I havent really been able to find much of anything
Originally posted by Garrik The main thing thats anoying me right now is all these morons around going on about how its going to be a korean grindfest, if they actually listened to the Pod cast they would know it wont be. These trolls need to get a life.
Hmmm.. the first time i read about this game i think (" ...hm...cool this gone be a nice game ") Then some mounths later i saw " FREE " Then i start to think (" oh no.....i have to play it kids...and gone be free soooo more ppl ... more ppl more lag ... dam ..when they put this game free ... they kill this game for many ppl like me ....") Then i think (" oh well this gone be a game to play some weeks and go to other game ")
kids= ppl calling noobs saying S**** F*** and other stufs that kind a kids stufs ( Some yuong players know what is play a mmorpg whitout do that , i got nothing vs the kids )
Originally posted by Dragao55 Hmmm.. the first time i read about this game i think (" ...hm...cool this gone be a nice game ") Then some mounths later i saw " FREE " Then i start to think (" oh no.....i have to play it kids...and gone be free soooo more ppl ... more ppl more lag ... dam ..when they put this game free ... they kill this game for many ppl like me ....") Then i think (" oh well this gone be a game to play some weeks and go to other game ")
kids= ppl calling noobs saying S**** F*** and other stufs that kind a kids stufs ( Some yuong players know what is play a mmorpg whitout do that , i got nothing vs the kids )
Originally posted by IIRL Originally posted by lainey i'm glad that it'll be 18+! don't have to play with them 13 year olds...
Well... I don't think the rating possess some kind of magical powers which denies anyone below the age of 18 to play the game though.
Exactly. Since the game will be F2P I don't see the restriction being enforced.
And when you tell a 13-year old he's too little to play this game, guess what? He's going to find a way around it and share it with all his friends. I expect loads of younger gamers to be in this game. We shall see though.
But if they admit that they are less than 18 in the game, and we screen shot...can we report to gm and get them booted? lol
Maybe, but then they can turn around and create a new account with a new name and an age over 18. With it being F2P there's no real way they can prevent kids from getting into the game. And even if it was P2P you'd have kids still playing, getting permission and the credit card number from their parents first.
I'm only 11 and I'm told that I act kinda old for my age I think you shouldn't blame all kids like me... You know there are some people who are mature and nice! I'm just one of the lucky few hehe... And you know, kids can play this game if they get permission from their parents.... but I'm probably sure not much will ask
And if you didn't mean all kids, then forget this
Yeah and uhhh BOOM HEADSHOT... sorry just had to get that out
Originally posted by assassinboi7 Wow you people are so mean... I'm only 11 and I'm told that I act kinda old for my age I think you shouldn't blame all kids like me... You know there are some people who are mature and nice! I'm just one of the lucky few hehe... And you know, kids can play this game if they get permission from their parents.... but I'm probably sure not much will ask And if you didn't mean all kids, then forget this Yeah and uhhh BOOM HEADSHOT... sorry just had to get that out
I personally don't have a problem with younger gamers in MMO's, so long as they act with a little sense in their head and respect one another. Of course, even older gamers sometime have this issue.
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yea i probibaly should have not said anything
sorry about that,
Never apologise for speaking your mind ^^ Hell, at least I know I'm not the only one out here in MMO-land who would like to see Auction Houses (or at the very least MOBILE player shops) implemented in KMMO imports. It is SERIOUSLY crippling to the ability for a player to survive (never mind getting ahead) in a market that is designed on AFK-static-shops when the player cannot stay jacked into the game all hours of the year.
Seriously, though, why EXACTLY did this style of player-marketing develop and entrench itself in Korean gaming? Is it a handshake with the Internet Cafes? All these 'afk-activities' would equal a massive boost to the income of the Cafes who are charging, what, an hourly rate? I can't see ANY other reason for the gross penetration of this game mechanic in so many KMMOs. AFK resource gathering, afk fishing, afk player shops, so much time-consuming afk crapola. Great moneymaker for hourly connexion billings tho ^^
if u don't like KMMOs, why do u play them?
i mean, if some game doesn't fulfil my criteria i woun't play it...
i sincerely doubt that someone will implement all those things u mentioned, unless a lead programmer gets the green light...
there's no point in wondering why are certain games the way they are... if u don't like it - don't play it...
And... Dekaron is mediocre, it only has the blood that stand out from other MMORPG's.
I don't see how they'll drastically change the gameplay with this game other than translating and maybe adjust the grind.
But I guess the most appealing about this game for all of you is the M rating due to "gore" (which is not that great) and the really most appealing is the free of charge due to annoying ads that will fill your bar.
Would be nice if they make it more twitch based so it becomes really extreme action orientated not just a port which it seems to become with less grind.
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Goodness gracious and Gods almighty, Girith. You are a real work of art. I was gonna shake your hand after the last exchange between us but now you have proven yourself unworthy.
'If you don't like KMMOs why play them?' There happen to be some really cool KMMOs out there. I happen to like them. The PROBLEM is that I cannot economically SURVIVE them. They have an obsolete design that frustrates the SH*T outta me and I feel that developers here need to start spending the bling to FIX them. They are currently copping out, cutting corners, and importing ANACHRONISTIC designs over to the West in order to make cheaply got profits.
I am voicing the problems and issues that need to be focused on by developers. I am challenging new devs to stop taking the easy way out. I am stating a case to bring KMMOs into a new era.
You probably are interested in the free ride that the ad-campaign in this game will offer you. I actually spend cash in these F2P games' Game Shops. I know that there are MANY who do just the same as I.
You want me to leave your sandbox coz I don't like the fact that it is too small and the monkey bars are rusted. You're telling me to get out if I want shiny new ones. I'm telling you, fix the monkey bars and widen the sandbox and more people will spend money in there.
Your way of thinking is BAD business, my friend. Take some management classes.
lol
we are on different wave lenghts...
this is my way of thinking:
-i see a game
-if the screens and etc. on the official website is interesting i try it
-if i like it i keep playin and IF NOT I DON'T PLAY IT
nobody is forcing u too play if u can't handle the economical side of the KMMOs (I wonder how millions of ppl are managing to make some money, becouse u make it sound immposible)...
i think most ppl who play games are like me, and not "trying to change the world" - who are u too "voice the problems and issues that need to be focused on by developers. Too challenge new devs to stop taking the easy way out. I am stating a case to bring KMMOs into a new era."
i wonder what have u achieved by arguing here with me... sure, u have some grate ideas, but they will never get to see the sunlight becouse you sad so, rather becouse somebody else (with the right position in the gaming market) will get too it also...
as i said in my first post - go grab a beer and chill couse there's nothing u can do about it...
And we are gonna continue this off-topic chat here, kenji, if you can't handle it then go check out another forum.
Girith, I have a parable for you. Imagine this: the Koreans decide to make some really really cool cars. Sexy as all get out. They have really nice chassis. Everything about em is a dream.
Except: they have no power steering. You ever drive a car without power steering? Or power brakes? Do you realise that those two innovations and modernisations are what made cars accessible to the greater public back in the day?
So, since I am too weak to drive a car w/o power steering or power brakes, your answer is 'go buy a Ford'. Then, when I take issue with you for your bullshit answer, you tell me 'If you don't like Korean Cars then why drive them?'
But, the point is, I LIKE the Korean Cars, but I can't enjoy driving them, I can't drive them PERIOD, coz they have no power steering. So, why do these cars have no modern controls that allow the larger population to be able to drive them? The Western car distributors are to bloody cheap to update the cars they are importing from Korea.
Once again, you are WAY off base with your assault on me. I don't give a goddamn that KMMOs are designed this way, it is outdated and BROKEN. You, Sir, are arguing for stagnation. You, Sir, are arguing in defence of lazy and corner-cutting publishing practices.
I'll have that beer now. Cheers ^^
You guys do realise that you can be reported for hijacking threads and sending them way off topic, this is my topic for people who are excited about the game to post in, it is not a thread for you two to have your childish disputes in.
So your off topic ranting is over here, go make your own thread or argue with each other over instant messenger.
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
well said. i've been to many forum and i cant believe you guys dont know basic rules
back to topic, im very much looking forward in this game that im playing the dekaron atm
But it is on topic.
Id have to agree with Stalinfalcon... I dont see why they dont implement Auctions in these Korean games. I dont get it. Auctions are a great way to make money and helps the economy bigtime. Some of the sole reasons of why I never bothered to go afk with my stall in the KMMO's is because i either couldnt go afk at the time or was actually playing the game.
This is one thing Id like to see gone in 2moons. Being an asian game is a blessing and a curse.
Another thing id like to see is more flexibility on classes. I personally hate classes, and there are very few MMO's that are completely skill based. There are supposed to be a ton of skills in this game, so maybe I can customize it that way.
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Steelarm, Doctor of MMO gaming, ethics, and ideas.
nothing will happen with your aguement. i do like that idea, auction or maybe a walking store, but as far as ive seen, that wont happen soon, unless the gonna remake the whole game. Maybe you could conntact developer and suggest that. hope the release it and upda te it constant ly, 1year is long to wait
go to the official site, register and log in to the forums there
the game will be f2p
Then some mounths later i saw " FREE "
Then i start to think (" oh no
Then i think (" oh well this gone be a game to play some weeks and go to other game
kids= ppl calling noobs saying S**** F*** and other stufs that kind a kids stufs
Ps: sorry bad english
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Exactly. Since the game will be F2P I don't see the restriction being enforced.
And when you tell a 13-year old he's too little to play this game, guess what? He's going to find a way around it and share it with all his friends. I expect loads of younger gamers to be in this game. We shall see though.
But if they admit that they are less than 18 in the game, and we screen shot...can we report to gm and get them booted? lol
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Wow you people are so mean...
I'm only 11 and I'm told that I act kinda old for my age
I think you shouldn't blame all kids like me... You know there are some people who are mature and nice! I'm just one of the lucky few hehe... And you know, kids can play this game if they get permission from their parents.... but I'm probably sure not much will ask 
And if you didn't mean all kids, then forget this
Yeah and uhhh BOOM HEADSHOT... sorry just had to get that out
BOOM HEADSHOT
