Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by Unagi So . . . you can have your precious classic servers, but you'll have to by a Station Pass to get access? Man, that is poetry. I can hear the heads a'sploding all over the world. I tip my hat to whoever came up with that money maker.
Still worth every penny if we have to pay 10 bucks more a month over that abortion called the nge.
Feel free to tell your masters that.
ROFLMAO! For a group his ilk call a bunch of whining vets, the Senator from Smed sure seems to hang on our every word.
Originally posted by ShivorEhe OK well the ducks now have a help wanted ad on their forums. So clearly they are trying to continue their work...they just happen to be unable on account of the loss of talent. But let's remember that Smed did say that SOE would give jobs to anyone who could reverse eng classic SWG. Hmm, maybe?!?! might it be?!?!? Probably not, but hey, its Friday!!!
The one that suddenly disappeared (Joker) is the guy who wrote the duck core. Could be SOE hired him, haven't hired any of the other visible ones, and they are trying to continue on the open source stuff they already have.
Clearly if this were to be seriously done, they'd use the original pre-CU code.
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by Rekrul Originally posted by Malickiebloo The only reason I question rumors like this . Stems from the secrecy surrounding it . I really don't think SOE / LA would be this quiet about such plans . Especially this close to release .
Um, yea, the NGE rumor?
See, pre-cu is a slap in the face to the supporters of NGE and all those that have tried to achieve the improvement of SWG. Armor imbalances, battlefields, GCW, etc. Those things came out quite badly due to NGE, but many have and still do live in hope that one day those will come through and they accept NGE because of it.
So despite some not believing it, there is a lot of players from CU and NGE generation, who do not want pre-cu.
The nge rumor IMO was a bit different , They knew it was going to cost them a lot doing NGE . Where is the big secret to be held in a pre-cu server ? I don't see any reason for secrecy . With the flak they are taking for doing two make overs , And alienating an entire player base . WHy would they keep it a secret they plan to give into that playerbase ?
A classic server , IS a way to clear the bad press IMO . Thats not hurting the NGE crowd at all . It is actually the best thing that could happen for both crowds . I still see no reason to be quiet about it .
Maybe the reason they would be quiet about it is because of, imagine this, they are planning on dumping the NGE and its players and reinstating classic servers. It would be a risky move in order to gain more subscribers...but SOE hasn't shown any fear in doing that before...
Maybe the reason they would be quiet about it is because of, imagine this, they are planning on dumping the NGE and its players and reinstating classic servers. It would be a risky move in order to gain more subscribers...but SOE hasn't shown any fear in doing that before...
*this post meant to be a cynical joke*
Release it after SWG:Complete.
Why? Remember TooW bait-and-switch?
Well, have the players buy SWG:Complete for the "special one-time-only reward", then announce release of classic servers, and have them buy that one extra.
The more we talk about it, the more I think someone's just f-ing with me.
Why? because it makes too much damn sense. NOTHING $OE has done EVER made sense.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by Rekrul Originally posted by KenshuAni
Maybe the reason they would be quiet about it is because of, imagine this, they are planning on dumping the NGE and its players and reinstating classic servers. It would be a risky move in order to gain more subscribers...but SOE hasn't shown any fear in doing that before...
*this post meant to be a cynical joke*
Release it after SWG:Complete.
Why? Remember TooW bait-and-switch?
Well, have the players buy SWG:Complete for the "special one-time-only reward", then announce release of classic servers, and have them buy that one extra.
Originally posted by Rekrul Originally posted by Shayde The more we talk about it, the more I think someone's just f-ing with me.
Why? because it makes too much damn sense. NOTHING $OE has done EVER made sense.
Why don't you e-mail Smed?
He no longer responds to me. After a page-long "Do you realize the insanity of not starting at least one pre-cu server" letter that he'll probably quote when he finally DOES announce it.
Let me see if it is still in my sent file.
I bet I'm in his spam filter now.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by Shayde The more we talk about it, the more I think someone's just f-ing with me.
Why? because it makes too much damn sense. NOTHING $OE has done EVER made sense.
TBH, this really does not make sense, simply because of the inclusion of the DUCKS in the plot. I am not saying it is possible, but like you said before shayde, its just highly improbable. Unless hiring a quacker is a PR move.
"i'm just thinking lawsuit, charging extra for a game most of us already bought"
Not sure how you sould sue them.. They wouldn't be forcing you to buy anything. IF this was true you would at your option pay more...
The only thing that even sounds remotely true is that idea of Station Access. I could definitely see them doing that.
The EMU guys just doesn't float.
Now if as Smedley once claimed about them showing progress that they would be willing to hire them. Then they actually were "soe" employees and not the "emu" guys I could see it..
I already have station access on my eq2 account for the extra slots... I just don't see me firing up all 9 accounts my household had for that price.
So in that sense depends on how it would balance out. How many would pay the price compared to how many wouldn't. Compared to the cost of doing it...
It sounds "almost" true but just kinda not quite true.
I searched all over the Duck board... The people who left had good excuses and mostly left before the big "LA Phonecall"
So therefore, I believe that it is B.S.
Sure, it makes sense a bit, but I think they left on their own accord. This has to be B.S.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by Unagi Originally posted by Shayde
The people who left had good excuses and mostly left before the big "LA Phonecall"
What would constitute an unacceptable excuse?
What they call a "real life".
Look into one Mr "Senator"
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by Shayde Ok, I never have recieved an e-mail from this person before. I don't know who it is, what they are doing, I'm thinking it's just someone throwing me a hoax. I'm just throwing it out there, not believing it is real.
Just saying it again, NOT believing it is real. Just sharing it. If it IS real, yay. But I don't believe it AT ALL. Don't share it as gospel.
Just to be clear... I DON'T BELIEVE IT....NOT AT ALL. (copied as typed, excuse the errors)
Shayde,
Hi. I am sending you this important leak info about SWG. I can't say who I am because of my employers but I thought you would be a good person to tell this so others could get the info.
The release of the new box in the stores will also coencide with the release of classic servers. You will have to subscribe to Sony's all-access pass to get on the classic servers, and will be considered a bonus to SWG players like the extra character slots are to EQ2 players. It wasn't clear if you'd have to buy the new box too so I can't tell you that part for sure.
Sony won't be supporting the classic servers but it will be the guys from the emulator thing. It is supposed to be their job to add any new content or bug fixes to the game since the NGE game is what Sony is using their developers for. It will be pre-cu based right before they did the cu since it seems that is what the players want. Sony is treating it like their classic EQ server, as a bonus item to SWG players.
I don't know when they plan to release this to the public, probably closer to the box release.
Don't respond to me because this is a fake e-mail account I used to send it to you. Thank you...
...for your time.
Honestly, it would be funny if it wasnt so obvious. Poor attempt in my eyes, to bad i didnt think of it first.
_____________________ I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
But the question is not to have a cu server or before publish 9 server or classic server.
Someone give a a good reason to trust Sony or Smedley again that they will fix the bugs and not to change the game again at least 3 or more years and will add new content.
We will buy, we will play yes we will have fun but I am sure after 6 or 7 months people will start to get bored because they will have to do what they did for years, nothing will be new besides there will be some more next generation games ( they call it like that not me ) and the market will be more challanging.
What will sony will to then, they will change the game again for better ?:)
Give the old good SWG a break and let it rest in peace.
Maybe SWG2 or sth is a better idea, sometimes to correct sth is more difficult to make a brand new one, we lived it during the period of SWG, every damn thing they changed was worse (except JTL in my opinion).
I dont play MMORPGs anymore, because none of them is good as SWG ( old one ).
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I would do the station pass if this were true.
Not that I even liked pre-CU that much, but it would be nice to take a ride in the way-back machine.
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"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb." -- Batman
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
Feel free to tell your masters that.
ROFLMAO! For a group his ilk call a bunch of whining vets, the Senator from Smed sure seems to hang on our every word.
Clearly if this were to be seriously done, they'd use the original pre-CU code.
Hauken Stormchaser
I want pre-CU back
Station.com : We got your game
Yeah?, Well i want it back!!!
See, pre-cu is a slap in the face to the supporters of NGE and all those that have tried to achieve the improvement of SWG. Armor imbalances, battlefields, GCW, etc. Those things came out quite badly due to NGE, but many have and still do live in hope that one day those will come through and they accept NGE because of it.
So despite some not believing it, there is a lot of players from CU and NGE generation, who do not want pre-cu.
The nge rumor IMO was a bit different , They knew it was going to cost them a lot doing NGE . Where is the big secret to be held in a pre-cu server ? I don't see any reason for secrecy . With the flak they are taking for doing two make overs , And alienating an entire player base . WHy would they keep it a secret they plan to give into that playerbase ?
A classic server , IS a way to clear the bad press IMO . Thats not hurting the NGE crowd at all . It is actually the best thing that could happen for both crowds . I still see no reason to be quiet about it .
Maybe the reason they would be quiet about it is because of, imagine this, they are planning on dumping the NGE and its players and reinstating classic servers. It would be a risky move in order to gain more subscribers...but SOE hasn't shown any fear in doing that before...
*this post meant to be a cynical joke*
Maybe the reason they would be quiet about it is because of, imagine this, they are planning on dumping the NGE and its players and reinstating classic servers. It would be a risky move in order to gain more subscribers...but SOE hasn't shown any fear in doing that before...
*this post meant to be a cynical joke*
Release it after SWG:Complete.
Why? Remember TooW bait-and-switch?
Well, have the players buy SWG:Complete for the "special one-time-only reward", then announce release of classic servers, and have them buy that one extra.
<mrburns>Excellent!</mrburns>
Why? because it makes too much damn sense. NOTHING $OE has done EVER made sense.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Maybe the reason they would be quiet about it is because of, imagine this, they are planning on dumping the NGE and its players and reinstating classic servers. It would be a risky move in order to gain more subscribers...but SOE hasn't shown any fear in doing that before...
*this post meant to be a cynical joke*
Release it after SWG:Complete.
Why? Remember TooW bait-and-switch?
Well, have the players buy SWG:Complete for the "special one-time-only reward", then announce release of classic servers, and have them buy that one extra.
<mrburns>Excellent!</mrburns>
Lol, forgot about that!
He no longer responds to me. After a page-long "Do you realize the insanity of not starting at least one pre-cu server" letter that he'll probably quote when he finally DOES announce it.
Let me see if it is still in my sent file.
I bet I'm in his spam filter now.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
I dont beleive this to be true, altough i hope.
It would be great if SOE people did some basic math.
Sure 7 million > 300 k
but...
300 k > 50 k is just as true.
TBH, this really does not make sense, simply because of the inclusion of the DUCKS in the plot. I am not saying it is possible, but like you said before shayde, its just highly improbable. Unless hiring a quacker is a PR move.
"i'm just thinking lawsuit, charging extra for a game most of us already bought"
Not sure how you sould sue them.. They wouldn't be forcing you to buy anything. IF this was true you would at your option pay more...
The only thing that even sounds remotely true is that idea of Station Access. I could definitely see them doing that.
The EMU guys just doesn't float.
Now if as Smedley once claimed about them showing progress that they would be willing to hire them. Then they actually were "soe" employees and not the "emu" guys I could see it..
I already have station access on my eq2 account for the extra slots... I just don't see me firing up all 9 accounts my household had for that price.
So in that sense depends on how it would balance out. How many would pay the price compared to how many wouldn't. Compared to the cost of doing it...
It sounds "almost" true but just kinda not quite true.
"With times comes awnsers..."
Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.
I searched all over the Duck board... The people who left had good excuses and mostly left before the big "LA Phonecall"
So therefore, I believe that it is B.S.
Sure, it makes sense a bit, but I think they left on their own accord. This has to be B.S.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Oh, well, nobody like that on a forum related to SWG ...........
I forgot to turn off the iron.
What they call a "real life".
Look into one Mr "Senator"
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
I agree, but, you forget Sonymath: 50k + silent majority + fanbois > 7 million.
_____________________
I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
Too big to swallow,
But the question is not to have a cu server or before publish 9 server or classic server.
Someone give a a good reason to trust Sony or Smedley again that they will fix the bugs and not to change the game again at least 3 or more years and will add new content.
We will buy, we will play yes we will have fun but I am sure after 6 or 7 months people will start to get bored because they will have to do what they did for years, nothing will be new besides there will be some more next generation games ( they call it like that not me ) and the market will be more challanging.
What will sony will to then, they will change the game again for better ?:)
Give the old good SWG a break and let it rest in peace.
Maybe SWG2 or sth is a better idea, sometimes to correct sth is more difficult to make a brand new one, we lived it during the period of SWG, every damn thing they changed was worse (except JTL in my opinion).
I dont play MMORPGs anymore, because none of them is good as SWG ( old one ).
Cya