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why post if you dont play?

Lt.DeadendLt.Deadend Member Posts: 325

Yea,I drink my java when I get up each day an read forums.I dont just come here tho.But the thing I cant understand at MMORPG.com is why there are so many losers that post in game forums when they dont play the game.

I meen,sure come here to ask something,or just read.But why post crap that just makes me shake my head?

Theres a few that post in this RV forum alot that dont play this game,.In fact it seems like they hate the game,and every chance they get they try to remind us of possible bad points the game may have.

why do you do this?

will it make you feel good if the game just shuts down? 

why are you not posting in the game forum of the games your playing?

And yes Jorev Im talking about you,.Your all about this "no gold" idea,and I must agree that it can ruin a game,But that would be in a game "you" like ,. a game that "your" playing,.RV has a plan for this problem an it has nothing to do with you or your games balance issues.

We all hope this dam game gets up off its knee's,its really not all that bad once ya get going in it.Its clear that it cant hold players that well,.but there progrestion is consistant,and theres been alot of games that had real bad starts like this with lag an bugs,but RV really needs to start to add newbie content,.that I must admit is lacking.

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  • magicalstevemagicalsteve Member Posts: 116

    I agree with you in that it is strange how people post against a certain game when they don't play it.

    I can't imagine myself going and criticizing WoW in their forums because I feel that their game is a soulless revenue chasing cliche.


    However, strange as it may be, everyone has a right to come and bash or talk up RV, whether they play it or not.

    I think Jorev is a special case though. I think deep down he likes the idea of Roma-Victor, he probably followed the development for a while and got excited at the list of game features. But when the controversial VERM was announced, and the game was released prematurely, he coudn't take it anymore and became a bitter critic of RV.

    Poor guy.



  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111
    To warn fellow gamers of lying fanbois.( Having Played ) I guess that's what you meant.

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  • Loona35Loona35 Member Posts: 55
    Preventing others to make the same fault i did: to buy this crap.

    The forums are full of false promises from devs and lies from fanbois.

    I feel ripped € 25 .. no refund for me since i was in beta.

    ...besides there is nothing good to post about it


  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507


    Originally posted by Loona35
    Preventing others to make the same fault i did: to buy this crap.

    The forums are full of false promises from devs and lies from fanbois.

    I feel ripped € 25 .. no refund for me since i was in beta.

    ...besides there is nothing good to post about it


    Please show one false promise or lie in any of this. You are entitled to post your opinion as well as I am to post mine...but stop making shit up. Also, stay out of the threads where a new player is asking for in game help...there are plenty of of other threads to vent your spleen.
  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    well on the plus side i noticed the ranking gone up to 6.6 which puts it just behind

    http://worldofpirates.4players.de/wop/index.html

  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507


    Originally posted by hercules

    well on the plus side i noticed the ranking gone up to 6.6 which puts it just behind
    http://worldofpirates.4players.de/wop/index.html


    I will save this post for ya for a couple of months...lets see where we are then?
  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020


    Originally posted by Lt.Deadend

    why do you do this?


    Just to keep your life from getting too dull.
    You should be thankful.

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925


    Originally posted by grinreaper

    Originally posted by hercules

    well on the plus side i noticed the ranking gone up to 6.6 which puts it just behind
    http://worldofpirates.4players.de/wop/index.html

    I will save this post for ya for a couple of months...lets see where we are then?


    lol.well lets hope after all there is no monthly as you always pointed out and i find that this is the best game around espically if the newer games turn out to be a dissapointment i might give RV another look in a few months time which like i always said  when it might turn from what it is now ,a product not out of alpha, to something that resembles a final release.Lets see anything is possible.
  • AndirAndir Member Posts: 232


    Originally posted by Lt.Deadend

    why do you do this?

    Well, this may (excuse me..will) infuriate all the fanboys, but I
    signed up for a forum account here for the sole purpose of warning the
    others.  This was the site that I heard about the game, so it was the most logical place to place my warnings.

    The game is poor.  I wasted my money, and I have requested a
    refund, yet they have not even had the graciousness to send me back a
    reply as to why or why I can't get a refund.  It's been over a month
    since I notified them.  The support so far has been horrid, the game
    wasn't fun/interesting/exciting/...  I got suckered into buying the
    game and I'm not happy.  I came into it knowing the graphics were not
    that hot, but didn't realize the game was in dire need of a beat stick.  The controls are horrible, the interface is worse.

    My question is, why do people keep supporting this game?

    will it make you feel good if the game just shuts down?

    It would make me feel good if one more player was warned of the games current situation.  It definately doesn't deserve a 6.6 rating.

    why are you not posting in the game forum of the games your playing?

    I'm between games.  Looking for a place to call home and thought Roma Victor was it.  I was wrong.

    but there progrestion is consistant,and theres been alot of games that had real bad starts like this with lag an bugs,but RV really needs to start to add newbie content,.that I must admit is lacking.

    No game has been this bad.  Ever.  Even Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth
    Drannor installed...but you better not uninstall it before patching :p 
    At least the game was playable.  (Yes, I know it wasn't an MMO.  I
    couldn't find an MMO that even compared to the troubles I had with this
    game.)


  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507


    Originally posted by Andir

    I am going to take the fools errand and try to answer some of your questions and correct some of your comments:

    ...  I got suckered into buying the game and I'm not happy.  I came into it knowing the graphics were not that hot, but didn't realize the game was in dire need of a beat stick.  The controls are horrible, the interface is worse.

    In what way were you suckerd? The screen shots were posted, there was discription of gameplay, ect. How exactly were you decived?

    My question is, why do people keep supporting this game?

    Because I enjoy the free form gameplay, the subject matter and the challange.

    I'm between games.  Looking for a place to call home and thought Roma Victor was it.  I was wrong.

    I suspect that RV was the game you projected alot of hopes and dreams on, and built it up in your mind into more than it is...

    No game has been this bad.  Ever.

    Nice hyperbole...all I can say is, you must not get out much. I can name 2 MMO's off the top of my head that had way worse launches than RV.

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925


    Originally posted by Andir

    Originally posted by Lt.Deadend


    why do you do this?
    Well, this may (excuse me..will) infuriate all the fanboys, but I signed up for a forum account here for the sole purpose of warning the others.  This was the site that I heard about the game, so it was the most logical place to place my warnings.
    The game is poor.  I wasted my money, and I have requested a refund, yet they have not even had the graciousness to send me back a reply as to why or why I can't get a refund.  It's been over a month since I notified them.  The support so far has been horrid, the game wasn't fun/interesting/exciting/...  I got suckered into buying the game and I'm not happy.  I came into it knowing the graphics were not that hot, but didn't realize the game was in dire need of a beat stick.  The controls are horrible, the interface is worse.

    My question is, why do people keep supporting this game?
    will it make you feel good if the game just shuts down?
    It would make me feel good if one more player was warned of the games current situation.  It definately doesn't deserve a 6.6 rating.

    why are you not posting in the game forum of the games your playing?
    I'm between games.  Looking for a place to call home and thought Roma Victor was it.  I was wrong.

    but there progrestion is consistant,and theres been alot of games that had real bad starts like this with lag an bugs,but RV really needs to start to add newbie content,.that I must admit is lacking.
    No game has been this bad.  Ever.  Even Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor installed...but you better not uninstall it before patching :p  At least the game was playable.  (Yes, I know it wasn't an MMO.  I couldn't find an MMO that even compared to the troubles I had with this game.)


    welcome to mmorpg.com.You will find here the users have a low threshold for misinformation like some fanboys having been giving to get people to buy this product.And an even lower threshold for sub par products.

    I enourage you to use the rating in the "game list" above and rate this game as many people use this an indicator to the quality of the game.

  • AndirAndir Member Posts: 232


    Originally posted by hercules




    welcome to mmorpg.com.You will find here the users have a low threshold for misinformation like some fanboys having been giving to get people to buy this product.And an even lower threshold for sub par products.

    I enourage you to use the rating in the "game list" above and rate this game as many people use this an indicator to the quality of the game.




    Unfortunately, I can't rate the game how I feel about it because I am new here.  (You need at least 5 rating, you start at 1)  It's kind of ironic how MMORPG put me onto the game, I played it, found it in bad shape and now I can't express my opinion without someone coming on here and flaming me for not agreeing with them.  It's also ironic that I wouldn't even be here today if I weren't still waiting for my refund.  I'm not the one shooting Red Bedlam in the foot, I'm merely aiming the gun for them to shoot themselves in the foot.  If I had been given a refund, I most likely would have forgotten about this game by now and moved on.

    I only wish I could rate it, and try to help those that might be on the edge of a purchase make an informed choice.  I would give the community a WAY lower score because of all the general
    distaste of fanboy posts trying to belittle everyone that would speak
    wrong of the game.
  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507


    Originally posted by Andir

    Originally posted by hercules




    welcome to mmorpg.com.You will find here the users have a low threshold for misinformation like some fanboys having been giving to get people to buy this product.And an even lower threshold for sub par products.

    I enourage you to use the rating in the "game list" above and rate this game as many people use this an indicator to the quality of the game.



    Unfortunately, I can't rate the game how I feel about it because I am new here.  (You need at least 5 rating, you start at 1)  It's kind of ironic how MMORPG put me onto the game, I played it, found it in bad shape and now I can't express my opinion without someone coming on here and flaming me for not agreeing with them.  It's also ironic that I wouldn't even be here today if I weren't still waiting for my refund.  I'm not the one shooting Red Bedlam in the foot, I'm merely aiming the gun for them to shoot themselves in the foot.  If I had been given a refund, I most likely would have forgotten about this game by now and moved on.

    I only wish I could rate it, and try to help those that might be on the edge of a purchase make an informed choice.  I would give the community a WAY lower score because of all the general distaste of fanboy posts trying to belittle everyone that would speak wrong of the game.

    Dude, you need a thicker skin if you are going to play on the internet. Nobody is saying you are an a-hole...at best, you are being called misinformed. The community in this game is one of the best I have encountered...if you had asked about your ax, for example...you would have gotten it fixed before it broke.
  • AndirAndir Member Posts: 232
    ...but instead, I'm told the game is flawless and it's my fault for not knowing how to play.  Great community.  The game sucks.  Plain and simple.  If it had more of an intro, a better interface, and customer support that actually got back with you (still waiting on a word of my refund...one month later) the game wouldn't bother me as much as it does.

    Your type of player doesn't help matters.  You assume people must bend over backwards and accept your methods, when in fact it only helps to steer people away.  "you need a thicker skin if you are going to play on the internet"  ??  WTF.  I think it is you who must learn the way of the world.  By that one phrase, you have identified that you are an immature person.  I could care less how old you are.  Maturity isn't measured in years.  In a way, I'm glad you post on these forums so people can see the type of "community" they are getting into.  It's no wonder the world is the way it is.

  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    Kanoth replied to a similar complaint of no refund response.

    You will not recieve a refund if you have used /topup. This is written in the Eula in the Redbedlam folder. I am not 100% sure but as far as I know that is hte only thing that will stop you from getting a refund. If you have issues with your refund then PM Kanoth and he will get it straightend out.

    Andir...about the type of community and we are and hte tyoe of PR RBL has, you are so far wrong I think you have your head stuck where the sun don't shine. Most people who make RBL/RV hate posts usually get slammed very quickly on the RV forums.

    I guess thats why the all post here, its safer



  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925


    Originally posted by Virtus
    Kanoth replied to a similar complaint of no refund response.

    You will not recieve a refund if you have used /topup. This is written in the Eula in the Redbedlam folder. I am not 100% sure but as far as I know that is hte only thing that will stop you from getting a refund. If you have issues with your refund then PM Kanoth and he will get it straightend out.

    Andir...about the type of community and we are and hte tyoe of PR RBL has, you are so far wrong I think you have your head stuck where the sun don't shine. Most people who make RBL/RV hate posts usually get slammed very quickly on the RV forums.

    I guess thats why the all post here, its safer


    Actually this is something a bit debateable.

    Now lets talk about refunds.Normally players just don't scream as much as in RV for refunds.I saw much more posts asking for a refund in RV then i did in EQ2 .Considering EQ2 sold well over 200k copies in the first month and RV would have sold 5k(considering they are still taking orders and the limit is suppose to be capped) and maybe even lower.

    Thats by percentage is a high number.So unlike some fans(not you mate) have been trying to put it that people bought the game to find out its not their playstyle its more to do with it been very unfinished and basically faulty .

    mmorpg crowd are used to bad launch(probably not as bad as this) and unfinished products so they just don't spam for refunds.

    Ok that part cleared up on to the /topup.Like i said this is sort of debateable.Lots of people probably used /topup to get going in the game initally.It is pretty hard to escape that escpically when you are new.

    I seen a post somewhere on offical forum about not refunding those that used /topup NO matter the amount because it might be a way of people buying multiple accounts and asking for refunds.

    I think its easy to sort  this.First off i am sure most who are affected never topped up more then £5 at best .I highly doubt anyone would go around paying £20 to go thru the stress of cancelling and the pay another £20 to make £5.I think if they did this alone it would probably sort most people out.

    From the people i heard in such situation i spoken to 3 or 4 .And none said they took more then 1k .


  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507


    Originally posted by Andir
    ...but instead, I'm told the game is flawless and it's my fault for not knowing how to play.  Great community.  The game sucks.  Plain and simple.  If it had more of an intro, a better interface, and customer support that actually got back with you (still waiting on a word of my refund...one month later) the game wouldn't bother me as much as it does.

    Your type of player doesn't help matters.  You assume people must bend over backwards and accept your methods, when in fact it only helps to steer people away.  "you need a thicker skin if you are going to play on the internet"  ??  WTF.  I think it is you who must learn the way of the world.  By that one phrase, you have identified that you are an immature person.  I could care less how old you are.  Maturity isn't measured in years.  In a way, I'm glad you post on these forums so people can see the type of "community" they are getting into.  It's no wonder the world is the way it is.


    No, it is your fault for not asking anyone ingame about anyting, then comming here and bitching about the community. At no point did anybody say the game is flawless. Based on these fourms alone and middle of the pack rating this game has it is neither plain nor simple that this game sucks.

    If you think I am immature, that is just fine. I still think you need a thicker skin to play on the internet.

    Tell you what, lets just agree to disagree...I will only respond to your posts to correct any 'facts' you post about the game and you do the same, ok? 

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925


    Originally posted by grinreaper

    Originally posted by Andir
    ...but instead, I'm told the game is flawless and it's my fault for not knowing how to play.  Great community.  The game sucks.  Plain and simple.  If it had more of an intro, a better interface, and customer support that actually got back with you (still waiting on a word of my refund...one month later) the game wouldn't bother me as much as it does.

    Your type of player doesn't help matters.  You assume people must bend over backwards and accept your methods, when in fact it only helps to steer people away.  "you need a thicker skin if you are going to play on the internet"  ??  WTF.  I think it is you who must learn the way of the world.  By that one phrase, you have identified that you are an immature person.  I could care less how old you are.  Maturity isn't measured in years.  In a way, I'm glad you post on these forums so people can see the type of "community" they are getting into.  It's no wonder the world is the way it is.

    No, it is your fault for not asking anyone ingame about anyting, then comming here and bitching about the community. At no point did anybody say the game is flawless. Based on these fourms alone and middle of the pack rating this game has it is neither plain nor simple that this game sucks.

    If you think I am immature, that is just fine. I still think you need a thicker skin to play on the internet.

    Tell you what, lets just agree to disagree...I will only respond to your posts to correct any 'facts' you post about the game and you do the same, ok? 


    You mean bottom of the rank  ratings .its 82nd out of about 109 games.Just below astonia 3 and just above tibia.

    Also remember initally there were no mag reviews(and even now few such reviews) and the ratings took a couple of weeks to kick in as it needed 50 votes or so.There was only the words of people like  sempiternal who painted an amazing and yes near flawless picture RV which ultimately did it more harm then good.

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