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Eat THIS all you who puke the "vaporware" bile in this forum! Perhaps you all should "vapor" on out of here and get yourselves ready for a REAL GAME.....a real game called Darkfall.
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It is great to see a small company rocking the boat of a multi billion dollar industry
so what does that mean? you think just because someone visits people makin a game that its not vaporware? someone else visited them too YEARS ago and that interview doesnt say anything new from what the other guy reported YEARS ago.
Darkfall has lots of great ideas and thats ALL this game has been for the last who knows how many years. Lots of good ideas with nothin behind any of it.
Hundreds of skills and spells?? , siege systems?? , city building and more???. Have you ever seen any of this stuff? I havent.. a feature list that rivals games that come out of blizzard itself.
They got all the great ideas but where is the substance? all this game has shown over the years is the same recycled information and screenshots over and over and some alpha videos showing nothing more than some poorly animated and textured models running around engaged in the most basic gameplay you can possibly have with music that sounds like it belongs in a low budget porn movie.
thats what they have shown after 6 full years. People arent following darkfall because of what it REALLY IS , they follow it because of what they think or hope it is. All blind faith.
Like it or not - THOSE ARE THE COLD HARD FACTS which spells nothing but 100% vaporware.
"It is great to see a small company rocking the boat of a multi billion dollar industry"
rocking them with what? A 6 year old outdated game that looks like it's maybe 10% done? c'mon no one can be this dumb. Darkfall missed its launch date 2 years ago. it's just fading into history now after each year goes by.
I mean when you have other devs (age of conan) posting on your boards just to make fun of your game than you know somethings gotta be wrong. darkfall is like the biggest joke of the industry by now.
EDIT: it seems like I cannot get rid of the second repeat at the bottom. Oh well.
"so what does that mean? you think just because someone visits people makin a game that its not vaporware? someone else visited them too YEARS ago and that interview doesnt say anything new from what the other guy reported YEARS ago." A good summary of said visit is that it's a 'synposis' of what most people already know (and to new followers like myself,perhaps new info),and in a way a re-assurance that the company are still working hard towards the end product. They took 4 HOURS out of their busy schedule to talk about the game? Now that's some commitment,don't you think? Especially since they're not a big company in the first place.
Darkfall has lots of great ideas and thats ALL this game has been for the last who knows how many years. Lots of good ideas with nothin behind any of it.
Hundreds of skills and spells?? , siege systems?? , city building and more???. Have you ever seen any of this stuff? I havent.. a feature list that rivals games that come out of blizzard itself.
They got all the great ideas but where is the substance? all this game has shown over the years is the same recycled information and screenshots over and over and some alpha videos showing nothing more than some poorly animated and textured models running around engaged in the most basic gameplay you can possibly have with music that sounds like it belongs in a low budget porn movie.
thats what they have shown after 6 full years. People arent following darkfall because of what it REALLY IS , they follow it because of what they think or hope it is. All blind faith.
Like it or not - THOSE ARE THE COLD HARD FACTS which spells nothing but 100% vaporware. Just because a game does not release after 6 years does not make it VAPORWARE. Likewise,the fact that they've continued for 6 LONG years and haven't quit is re-assuring. Do you think if it was vaporware on their minds at some point that they would have given up by now? The fact they then acquired a publisher in 2003 and kept going is a sign that someone saw something decent in the game.
Granted,the point about 'recycled' information and screenshots has some merit (holy shit,sounds like you've done some research),but they do show something new every now and again. The latest 'Mahirim' update with a FULL description of the race re-assured people that they existed after much doubt. It's only a matter of time before the Alfar update,a new skill system update among more to come. There's an update coming out tomorrow,so who knows what that will contain. The updates keep coming; recycled or not,and that's something. And enough for many of us following the game.
Regardless,for us 'new followers' we praise these updates a lot. (I joined the forums and started following big-time in July 2006) Maybe that is why they are doing them in the first place; showing visual evidence to the new followers (and maybe some of the long-runners too) and re-assuring people they haven't stopped what they are doing. At one point I believe updates were few and far between; now we get one every week! A sign of life in the game,imo.
The gameplay trailer was quite impressive among itself; it showed scenes of combat,what I believe to be the Orc capital,ranged and magic shots being manually AIMED,good mounted animations and the variety of landscape. The screenshots also look impressive; blood details,armor details,landscape details,etc. What Darkfall REALLY IS we don't know,but we like what we have seen and heard and watched enough to believe in it. I haven't seen any poor animations yet,even on the bootleg alpha gameplay video which alone got me into Darkfall in the first place,just because I saw MANUAL AIMED SPELLS! (seriously)
Blind faith perhaps,but I feel it's 'blind faith' that is starting to bear fruit. Just like your 'blind faith' in ToC. That game has had 3 name changes,accusations of being made of the same scam-ridden developers as Age of Mourning,YET people continue to follow the game,to believe in it,under in my opinion,WORSER conditions. You have a release date in Q2 2007 to live by. There have been no gameplay videos,only facial animations and one finishing move animation and a description of the engine. Yet you and your ToC followers continue to believe in 'blind faith',and I bet you base most on it on that release date alone. I've signed up to the ToC forums myself,and will be keeping an eye on it on its individual merits,forgetting the 'mistakes' of the past. I hope to see more promising stuff from ToC though.
"It is great to see a small company rocking the boat of a multi billion dollar industry"
rocking them with what? A 6 year old outdated game that looks like it's maybe 10% done? c'mon no one can be this dumb. Darkfall missed its launch date 2 years ago. it's just fading into history now after each year goes by. I believe Darkfall acquired a publisher in 2003 and thus decided to redo the graphics engine (and the whole game) to what you see today. I don't think Darkfall had a release date back then,but if I'm told otherwise (with proof) I guess you have a point there. Even so,from the screenshots I saw back then it looks like they did so for the better. I'm probably not one to talk about how people felt about the 2000-2003 period,so I'll leave that to someone who followed it back then. Perhaps try raising this point or looking it up on the Archive section of the Darkfall forums,which is probably something I should do myself.
As for 'fading into history'; I doubt it. This site alone still keeps the forums for it; people are still joining the forums and getting involved in the Darkfall clans already,like myself. If anything,Darkfall is keeping a steady,if not growing presence among the MMORPG community,whether people like the ideas or not,but I think a lot of people like the ideas Darkfall has and would love to see them done right. Darkfall has a following.
Granted,a lot of the older followers are perhaps starting to become disilusioned after many years,but I wouldn't know if that meant they'd quit following it at all. And plenty of new people are getting into it to fill their shoes anyway if that was the case.
I mean when you have other devs (age of conan) posting on your boards just to make fun of your game than you know somethings gotta be wrong. darkfall is like the biggest joke of the industry by now. I'm sorry,but that seems very unprofessional by the AoC dev to do that in the first place. They issued a swift apology but it still reeks of stupidity. If they don't like the game they don't need to be doing things like that; it just makes their game look bad and the people behind it. The only thing wrong is on that developer's end for doing such an action in the first place.
Biggest joke in the industry? That's probably reserved for 'Age of Mourning' and 'Dark and Light'. I won't say 'ToC' because it's only a joke when they release a crap/buggy game.
Despite all this KidWicked,I get the feeling you'd be impressed the moment Darkfall was on beta release and you started playing it. You sound like those people who are cynical that because the game has been worked on for 6 years it won't come out,but the moment it does you'll be praising the game. Or hating it,but not because of the time spent making it.
rocking them with what? A 6 year old outdated game that looks like it's maybe 10% done? c'mon no one can be this dumb. Darkfall missed its launch date 2 years ago. it's just fading into history now after each year goes by. I believe Darkfall acquired a publisher in 2003 and thus decided to redo the graphics engine (and the whole game) to what you see today. I don't think Darkfall had a release date back then,but if I'm told otherwise (with proof) I guess you have a point there. Even so,from the screenshots I saw back then it looks like they did so for the better. I'm probably not one to talk about how people felt about the 2000-2003 period,so I'll leave that to someone who followed it back then. Perhaps try raising this point or looking it up on the Archive section of the Darkfall forums,which is probably something I should do myself.
As for 'fading into history'; I doubt it. This site alone still keeps the forums for it; people are still joining the forums and getting involved in the Darkfall clans already,like myself. If anything,Darkfall is keeping a steady,if not growing presence among the MMORPG community,whether people like the ideas or not,but I think a lot of people like the ideas Darkfall has and would love to see them done right. Darkfall has a following.
Granted,a lot of the older followers are perhaps starting to become disilusioned after many years,but I wouldn't know if that meant they'd quit following it at all. And plenty of new people are getting into it to fill their shoes anyway if that was the case.
I mean when you have other devs (age of conan) posting on your boards just to make fun of your game than you know somethings gotta be wrong. darkfall is like the biggest joke of the industry by now. I'm sorry,but that seems very unprofessional by the AoC dev to do that in the first place. They issued a swift apology but it still reeks of stupidity. If they don't like the game they don't need to be doing things like that; it just makes their game look bad and the people behind it. The only thing wrong is on that developer's end for doing such an action in the first place.
Biggest joke in the industry? That's probably reserved for 'Age of Mourning' and 'Dark and Light'. I won't say 'ToC' because it's only a joke when they release a crap/buggy game.
Despite all this KidWicked,I get the feeling you'd be impressed the moment Darkfall was on beta release and you started playing it. You sound like those people who are cynical that because the game has been worked on for 6 years it won't come out,but the moment it does you'll be praising the game. Or hating it,but not because of the time spent making it.
Seen you edited out ToC/Mourning from some of your threads, to cover your tracks and try on continuing bashing Darkfall without making yourself look blatantly like a moron as of boasting Mourning/ToC at the same time?
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Guys, you are sounding like a small group of fanatics. I'll reply to the threadstarter who thinks he discovered the truth by quoting from Ismini's article:
"They've kept their game fairly low on the PR radar until this year."
indeed, very low on the PR radar, like 7 years low
"They know they're catering to a niche market and they're content doing so."
Yet, they are easily claiming like 10.000 players online per server.... btw, can someone send me a PHOTO of just 100 men fighting scene? Please?
"And if they don't get a publisher, they are prepared to self-publish to see this vision become a reality."
This sounds a bit suspicious to me. Any reasonable rational human being would worry about this. So, Suitepee the 2003 publisher to whom you are referring to, is now just a memory.
Come on my child, open your eyes and accept the truth
Suitepee/IIRL show me a link of a movie in which there are 100+ players that fight, instead of commenting/quoting and long posting.Let's see where the truth ends and myth/rumours begin
...from a team that uses cheapo 30$ fans instead of airconditioners if not anything, to cancel the heat that is accumulating from all these 20" CRT monitors :p I don't see CRTs in the stores anymore btw...
Can you guys imagine the heat???
Originally posted by ddev
Yea they really rock the multibillion industry.
Blizzard is soo scared...
...from a team that uses cheapo 30$ fans instead of airconditioners if
not anything, to cancel the heat that is accumulating from all these
20" CRT monitors :p I don't see CRTs in the stores anymore btw...
Can you guys imagine the heat???
ok, maybe youre not an alt of lysanding but you definetly make just as stupid posts.
They don't have to look at all. They are a team of 20-30
They can easily get another 50 from friends, relatives, wives whatever and finally
They can come here and pick you and your pals that almost work for them already.
Job done 100 players.
Seriously, is this your answer? Then how do they claim their engine can handle 10000+ players ?????!!!!!
You dont have to necessarily test everyting to know it might work. They might have servers that will easily hold 10k people, or they might have another Mourning code that can barely hold 10 people.
I dont know the truth, you dont know the truth. Just sit back, wait and see whether they can make it happen or not. Making troll posts here certainly doesnt help.
Unless, of course, you have to fill the void in your life by trolling, just like lysanding/alts.
If you'd read my post,I admitted I needed to look into the archive forums myself. My bad!
All I know is that they found Razorwax to help them with their game,which is enough for me...for now. They can worry about publishers when there's a GAME to be released later on. Regardless of if you are right,the fact is Darkfall is still going ahead. Right now I'm a little more concerned that they don't screw anything major up in the beta.
Show me ANY video of an in-development game that shows 100+ people fighting at once. And has strong PvP in the game. Good luck.
We are not benchmarking "other games" here. You already said, these are inferior.
They already have a bad reputation of "promiseware" for 7 years now and if I was them, I would have trying to give something more than just a static video and some joke fights. Now they are moving to naval combat, as if they are done with the rest. In this article they claim the engine is nearly done. Well why dont they roll another video showing the true capabilities of their wonder?
There is no Razorwax, and as I have clearly show to you there is no Aventurine either. It's just a small and remote team of programmers trying to make the impossible. It's as if you and another pal of yours, were set out to make the Twin Towers2 of NY. The funny thing is, that these assumptions is what THEY are telling you already but you dont want to see. Or many of you have your own personal motives to create fuss about something that is nonexistent for 7 years.
You claim that 32000+ are subscribed in those forums for this game, yet its just a handfull of people that reply and keep this forum alive, and some of the 4-5 of you like IIRL intentionally flame just to provoke.
Furthermore I find the whole thing pointless, I just said what I wanted to say, I wish you all to finally get your game (but I highly doubt) and not get disappointed by what it might finally turn out to be
I'll agree to that.
It has certianly but a burr up your backside. What is the real reason you are here?
"Let's track the history of Mourning/ToC shall we?"
no lets not and say we did. mmkay? I am talking about DARKFALL here. not any other game.
Mourning DOESNT EVEN EXIST and hasnt existed for over a year. come up with a better rebuttal because constantly saying that Thrones of chaos is mourning is blah blah blah makes you sound like a complete fool.
Thanx "atari"& thank you darkfall team!
Actually, at this stage, saying ToC is NOT Mourning makes a person look like a fool.
Mentioning that piece of crap in the same sentence with Darkfall is blasphemy.
Guys, don't even respond to these anti-DF trolls. Talk about negativity. People who focus on negativity in their lives draw you into their own negative reality. I'm a positive person. I don't go to the other MMORPG forums and bash their carebear games in development. I'm positive that one day we'll have a great PvP MMORPG to play. Right now, Darkfall is our greatest hope. And there's nothing wrong with believing or hoping for something... even if it is just an idea. We all wouldn't even be using computers if no one believed in ideas.
So you prefer to follow Realms of Krell (http://krelslibrary.org/interview.html)? Ah yes makes sense, since that game has got alot of cold hard facts to backup how uber it will be!!!? NOT.. actually all the facts on that game points towards failure and yet you are the biggest fanboi. Just shut up KidWicked, go back to your Mourning boards...
Of course there are rivalry between the age of conan and darkfall devs, both companies are from Norway. I must say if I should choose to laugh at one, it'd definitely be AoC with all their instances and barfights and controlled pvp environments.. lol, how carebear can you be. No wonder they are jealous of the innovative and ambitious project that Darkfall is, when they themselves don't seem to be able to make anything new.
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What?? Actually saying TOC is not mourning makes you sound like a complete idiot. Stay off these boards with your idiotic posts, thanks.
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QFT.
Shame about the flagrant trolling. Why aren't these board trolls banned from this forum already? It's obvious they're multiple accounts of the same guy posting here for a while now.