Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
What I liked most about old swg.
phennexion
Member Posts: 63
Hey all,
I was thinkin while i was drivin to work, and The reason I miss old swg so much, was cause it was SOO DAMN BIG, and like, you could travel 10km out in the middle of nowhere and be, in the middle of nowhere.
Every other mmorpg I played is all areas that have meaning, like every area has a quest or a mob in it that someone has been in before and killed before.
SWG has awesome scenery, and I used to go exploring by foot all over dantooine and dathomir before vehicles were even implemented... like to have a little lake in the middle of nowhere you can go sit beside or put a house beside that has no value, no loot, no quests, not even for eyecandy, just there for you to make the best of it, that's a sandbox type game thats truely awesome. I
I think of WoW and how each division of their landmass is basicly just another level of grinding quests and exp, how EQ and EQ2 were the same. SWG was just 1 big planet and you hadda go travel to get somewhere, sure the game was like 70% time spent travelling mission to mission, or harvester to harvester, but atleast the sights were good!
It's the random pointlesness of stuff being where it was that was making it so much fun. Having a near infinite amount of land mass to explore and build upon. Where you can go to the top of a mountain and setup camp, just cause it's a fun thing to do not cause it'll gain you exp or loot.
Comments
Being able to camp, and inevitably someone would happen by, and stop and say hi. Again not because they got XP to do so, just because.
I really miss all my old guild friends, and all of you I might have met in a camp, out in the middle of nowhere.
Personally, I enjoyed a lot of traveling to see what I'd find. The "random adventure spawn" concept Raph had was a great idea that was never fully realized, but pre-CU was the perfect platform for it. I did do an awful lot of the "run around, find a lake, set up a house and just chill" thing too though.
There's a sucker born every minute. - P.T. Barnum
Things simple like that invited , conversation. It was 100 times more of a MMO then.
I enjoyed those alot, Ranger was my First out of beta profession, with CH to boot. I was a Ranger/CH on Bria which was just insane with people and community.
We would crash due to server load all the time then, people were fun, had depth and there was a sense of "WORLD" with risk SIM feel to it.
It was your saga, your Star Wars world, not Nancy's, not SOE's not LEC's -- yours... Of course some fanboi NGE will ruin this post I am sure.. but know that he either failed or was not in the game back then.
Getting a 20 man group to go camp and kill one Giant Krayt Dragon was fun... now that is a one man gig, with no loss or even risk of dying. You can get right back up or even fly right back almost instantly. whoo hoo for progress in the name of taking out complexity!
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAmbryZealot/
You obviously didn't read the post.
It didn't even say "WE want (insert something here) back" It said what the guy missed about his favorite game. Read and think before you post.
To the OP, Yes, this was one of the best parts. Exploring, finding that interesting rock formation, or that crashed ship. Placing houses where you want them, Starting cities next to that nice lake on Naboo, or outposts on Rori where no one would find them. It was truely your own life.
We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment;
We are choosing to be here right now -Tool, Parabola
You obviously didn't read the post.
It didn't even say "WE want (insert something here) back" It said what the guy missed about his favorite game. Read and think before you post.
To the OP, Yes, this was one of the best parts. Exploring, finding that interesting rock formation, or that crashed ship. Placing houses where you want them, Starting cities next to that nice lake on Naboo, or outposts on Rori where no one would find them. It was truely your own life.
Judging from his other posts, Mastermartz isn't accustomed to "thinking" before he does so, as is the same story with every other NGE fanboi.
Things simple like that invited , conversation. It was 100 times more of a MMO then.
I enjoyed those alot, Ranger was my First out of beta profession, with CH to boot. I was a Ranger/CH on Bria which was just insane with people and community.
We would crash due to server load all the time then, people were fun, had depth and there was a sense of "WORLD" with risk SIM feel to it.
It was your saga, your Star Wars world, not Nancy's, not SOE's not LEC's -- yours... Of course some fanboi NGE will ruin this post I am sure.. but know that he either failed or was not in the game back then.
Getting a 20 man group to go camp and kill one Giant Krayt Dragon was fun... now that is a one man gig, with no loss or even risk of dying. You can get right back up or even fly right back almost instantly. whoo hoo for progress in the name of taking out complexity!
Ever have that experience of setting up camp to heal between lairs and people got to chatting and showing off all their pets and stuff so that people were healed and finished with bio breaks long before the group went back to hunting?
And speaking of pets...I had a few CHs too but I remember going through Coronet at night and another CH started showing me the different pets the person had in inventory. At that point I hadn't explored the galaxy much because I was still rather new so seeing someone pull out pets other than the kimogila that looked taller than the buildings was rather amazing.
And speaking of memories, ever go looking for a certain pet, not because it had great stats but because it was a difficult to find pet or completed a certain "collection" of pets?
Meh...he is on a crusade to clean up the forums tonight. He'll find that even more difficult than getting SOE to release a Classic Server methinks. I'm not certain he is a 100% fanboi either, time will tell. Personally I think an internal battle is raging, and he wants the NGE to win, because if it doesn't he will become like us: Bored and Bitter. And every post he sees here tells him the game is getting worse.
"The pre-CU people are talking and I'm not listening....lalalalalalala" (covers his ears).
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
And speaking of pets...I had a few CHs too but I remember going through Coronet at night and another CH started showing me the different pets the person had in inventory. At that point I hadn't explored the galaxy much because I was still rather new so seeing someone pull out pets other than the kimogila that looked taller than the buildings was rather amazing.
And speaking of memories, ever go looking for a certain pet, not because it had great stats but because it was a difficult to find pet or completed a certain "collection" of pets?
And speaking of pets ......
Sitting on a CuPa in Theed with two trained/mount CuPas flanking me, ready to sell a trusty mount to non-CH's. Didn't need the money, it was probably *costing* me money considering the time I was taking out from my metals & ores business, but the pleasure of selling that new guy a mount and asking what he wanted the commands for Attack, Stay and Come to be ... seeing the thrilled new owner experience his first CuPa gallop ....
Good stuff. Obviously they had to get rid of that.
And speaking of pets...I had a few CHs too but I remember going through Coronet at night and another CH started showing me the different pets the person had in inventory. At that point I hadn't explored the galaxy much because I was still rather new so seeing someone pull out pets other than the kimogila that looked taller than the buildings was rather amazing.
And speaking of memories, ever go looking for a certain pet, not because it had great stats but because it was a difficult to find pet or completed a certain "collection" of pets?
And speaking of pets ......
Sitting on a CuPa in Theed with two trained/mount CuPas flanking me, ready to sell a trusty mount to non-CH's. Didn't need the money, it was probably *costing* me money considering the time I was taking out from my metals & ores business, but the pleasure of selling that new guy a mount and asking what he wanted the commands for Attack, Stay and Come to be ... seeing the thrilled new owner experience his first CuPa gallop ....
Good stuff. Obviously they had to get rid of that.
It was neither "Star Warsy" **God readies a fierce kick** nor "Iconic" **God kicks a puppy with all his might**.
Water cooled Intel Corei7 920 D0 Stepping OC'd 4.3GHz - 6GB Corsair Dominator GT RAM 2000Mhz - ASUS RAGE II EXTREME X58 Mobo - 2x HD 5870 in Crossfire X, OC'd 0.9Ghz core 1.3Ghz RAM - Dell 2407WFP Flat Panel LCD 24" 1920x1200
Meh...he is on a crusade to clean up the forums tonight. He'll find that even more difficult than getting SOE to release a Classic Server methinks. I'm not certain he is a 100% fanboi either, time will tell. Personally I think an internal battle is raging, and he wants the NGE to win, because if it doesn't he will become like us: Bored and Bitter. And every post he sees here tells him the game is getting worse.
"The pre-CU people are talking and I'm not listening....lalalalalalala" (covers his ears).
Actually, he doesn't play the game and never has...so I'm not 100% sure why he's here :P
To the OP: I still do that from time to time. When I'm in "tell hell" or I'm doing my daily order reply emails on my AS, I'll sometimes pick a planet and travel aimlessly until I find a great spot and deal with it all there. I still find stuff that I hadn't seen before, even after 3 years.
And speaking of pets...I had a few CHs too but I remember going through Coronet at night and another CH started showing me the different pets the person had in inventory. At that point I hadn't explored the galaxy much because I was still rather new so seeing someone pull out pets other than the kimogila that looked taller than the buildings was rather amazing.
And speaking of memories, ever go looking for a certain pet, not because it had great stats but because it was a difficult to find pet or completed a certain "collection" of pets?
And speaking of pets ......
Sitting on a CuPa in Theed with two trained/mount CuPas flanking me, ready to sell a trusty mount to non-CH's. Didn't need the money, it was probably *costing* me money considering the time I was taking out from my metals & ores business, but the pleasure of selling that new guy a mount and asking what he wanted the commands for Attack, Stay and Come to be ... seeing the thrilled new owner experience his first CuPa gallop ....
Good stuff. Obviously they had to get rid of that.
/nods at the 'first gallop' .
I had a few dewies on hand one afternoon when I wandered into Eisley. This was before it was Newb Central so there was usually a decent mix' of players there unlike now. I overheard a guy being told about mounts and he was saying how he'd like to get one 'one day' when he could afford it.
He just about corked himself when I traded him a fully trained dewie, gratis. Just so I could see somebody chuffed to bits.
We went round to front of the theater so I could teach him how to call, mount, store, etc. Named his mount and then we had a friendly mounted duel, just for a laugh.
But it looked GOOD, it was FUN and it was ICONIC.
Still, there y'go.
*********************
So, you all sat in camps and that was fun?
*********************
Man, all these great stories...
Did I ever tell you how I got my dancing cat?
I've told the story of how I tried to roleplay a 'troubador' in SWG. Not gonna bore you with all that again. Anyway, I was just getting the whole act down, macroing the few dance moves I picked up at the Coro cantina to be in step with the lyric break that the /sing emote gave me. I was having a little luck in Coro, but in Theed it was a different story. After an hour of singing around the star-port, I'd been slapped, challenged to numberous duels, spit upon, and accused of spamming. The Empire is a tough room!
Then this little CH steps up and says, "You need a dancing cat...". Her name was Cheetara, and she was a master CH but I didn't know it. She has me go through the act a couple of times, and I send her my little dance macro. Bout ten minutes later we make a 'trade' (cost me 10 credits and a poem) and little Woebegone is in my datapad. He was a little, white cat, I can't remember his breed. But she shows me these two 'tricks' he knows, and then sends me a little macro she made for him. Next when I bring out the cat and go into my act, the cat now does this neat little frontpaw walk and shuffle at the lyric breaks when I do my little softshoe! It was great!
Now Theed warms up to my dog and pony show, and I'm killing myself thanking everyone for all the tips they throw at me.
And now there are no CHs, and there will never be a cat like Woebegone in SWG ever again...
What a game it was....
- Jode
Yeah, I think you were talkin about a Jinx, cats from endor lol.
I one of my most memorable times in SWG was when i found a way to slice a weapon more then once. We'd open slicing window and opentrade and pass the weapon around then we'd go backwards in the circle and everyone would get a weapon/armor sliced like 9 times. It felt like we were being real smugglers doin a crime lol.
I remember we had like 90% comp with 5/13/4 encumberances, and LLS's that do liek 2000dmg at 0.9spd. 7000dmg saber lol.
CSR's caught up with us and banned some of us, but man it was fun, i could takeout anchorhead by myself lol.
My favorite exploration location with Lok Volcano, I always tried to go there by foot, usually diehalf way across the planet and then start walkin from imperial outpost. I'd always get killed cause i was by myself usually, lol. But it was fun dodgin aggro and stuff.
In the old game, I used to threaten my recruits and troopers with "kimo village".
If they messed up, they would be handed a survival knife, and had to run lapses, nekkid, unbuffed, unfood/drinked around the Kimo Villaga.
That was a hoot. From the full templated to the novices, they all ran around, trying their best to avoid ANY contact with the Kimos...Not one EVER made it...They all ended up eaten and spat out.
In todays game, that's rather impossible...Kimos are no threat and their aggro is FUBAR.
Heck, when we had our fort on Lok, we usually had 1-3 Kimogila invasions a day, where everyone and their mommy had to fight and die to get the blasted Kimogilas out of town, so we could actually "live" in the town.
Random spawn for the win! Enough of this "Zone" crap.
Things simple like that invited , conversation. It was 100 times more of a MMO then.
I enjoyed those alot, Ranger was my First out of beta profession, with CH to boot. I was a Ranger/CH on Bria which was just insane with people and community.
We would crash due to server load all the time then, people were fun, had depth and there was a sense of "WORLD" with risk SIM feel to it.
It was your saga, your Star Wars world, not Nancy's, not SOE's not LEC's -- yours... Of course some fanboi NGE will ruin this post I am sure.. but know that he either failed or was not in the game back then.
Getting a 20 man group to go camp and kill one Giant Krayt Dragon was fun... now that is a one man gig, with no loss or even risk of dying. You can get right back up or even fly right back almost instantly. whoo hoo for progress in the name of taking out complexity!
Ever have that experience of setting up camp to heal between lairs and people got to chatting and showing off all their pets and stuff so that people were healed and finished with bio breaks long before the group went back to hunting?
And speaking of pets...I had a few CHs too but I remember going through Coronet at night and another CH started showing me the different pets the person had in inventory. At that point I hadn't explored the galaxy much because I was still rather new so seeing someone pull out pets other than the kimogila that looked taller than the buildings was rather amazing.
And speaking of memories, ever go looking for a certain pet, not because it had great stats but because it was a difficult to find pet or completed a certain "collection" of pets?
My two were the "frensied Grauls" I had two --- lol luck, pure luck" --
BUT the one I always wanted, always missed or could never freaking get was the Gaping Spider QUEEN.. which was so freaking rare, I think they did stop the baby of it being even avl. I did want it , it was HUGE and just rare.
I had all the Rancors, Grauls.. etc.. Hell I missed being to call three GSPs with light armor -- oh man they ruled. lol.
Getting my first Kamurra was cool, it was good ole level 15 max with light armor --- lol NOT TO MENTION the Sand beetles... oh man a hot seller thats for sure.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
you can roleplay without even noticing it:)
space combat:
turet1 hey pilot stop moving the ship so i can shoot
pilot: easier said than done when you have 4 ship shooting at you!
copilot shields down:
turet 1 IM ON IT!
Turet 2: turn the ship so i can shoot!!!
pilot: oh yeah oops
turet1: ok shields are repaired going back in turet.
copilot: slow down ship i give more power to weapons
pilot: YOU CRAZY take of power from front shields instead!
copilot dude cant you see the station in front of us... scanners say that tey have 21 guns!!!
pilot: ok tell that to the 18 ships with 2 sets of guns each behind us...
turet 1: THERE ARE TO MANY!!!!!
turet2 DAMN IT PILOT TURN THE SHIP SO I CAN SHOOT!
yup there is nothing like true roleplay and universe imersion
same thing could hapen in ground wars.
ok every one concentrate firepower on the jedi.
OH IM SHOT!.. MEDIC!!!!
on my way!!! (gets killed on the way) *commando drags medic back to safe location* as he shoots a small stim at the fallen soldier who gets up runs away but get cut down by a saber throw.
what i really miss thogh is the GCW.. when you actually had BOTH FACTIONS (not 2 guilds) at war with eachother. i mean 4-5 guilds vs 4-5 guilds with 20-30 members in each guild. fighting over a active base...
It was hard, I agree but damn it did weed out alot of goofballs. I know that profit mattered though... I just never thought we would lose it all in the name of progress and simplicity.
So many things to learn and do, I mean the MMO part of it was huge... getting trained from someone instead of a NPC Trainer-- they removed them all together... THAT part alone was time and effort, to see what you could learn from them etc...
It was magic back long before the village to find your Jedi trainer or see the NPCs different then the normal players did.
You guys would see a Weaponsmith or Ranger trainer... we would see a Force Trainer... they hid from you..etc.. It just had so much more room to grow and go deep. Instead it ended up in the 2 foot section of the pool so nobody could drown or die.
Bah.. yall made me get mad again... suck!
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
You shoulda been with <ST> on their patrols. Thats how our chat went when the shit hit the fan...Including "MEEEEEDIIIIC!" and "On my way, hang in there rookie, medi....MEEEEEDIIIIC!!!"
Always in character in spatial, almost always in character on guild and groupchat...And ya know what? It really made the game for us. It was Star Wars to us, we were there, Stormtroopers in Star Wars.
I was never a CH, but always thought it was kinda cool to see them running around with the various pets that they aquired.
I miss my house the most. I had that thing decorated really nicely. Alot of my reason for playing was to find rare items to put in it.
I also liked going and looking at other peoples houses and shops. I would spend hours going from city to city, planet to planet, looking at all the goods available for sale. I remember this one guy made a shuttle out of engine parts in the back room of his shop. It looked really good.
I miss pre-cu.
--------------------
SWG - Killed by $OE
WOW - Retired
Playing WAR
In our old fort(bria, lok), we had built the city like a fort.
It came complete with prison, mess hall, showers, shooting range, torture chamber..errr..interrogation chamber, military bar and a "illegal" bar(one was strict with 2 can rules and more, the other had topless dancing
and as much as you could drink), barracks complete with 2 story bunkbeds and footlockers. Officers offices with nametags..
We had a regular military operation going on. Ofcourse, then we had the private bunkhouses, for the veteran troopers..most had locked doors cuz they were wery..civilian decorated hehe.
You shoulda been with <ST> on their patrols. Thats how our chat went when the shit hit the fan...Including "MEEEEEDIIIIC!" and "On my way, hang in there rookie, medi....MEEEEEDIIIIC!!!"
Always in character in spatial, almost always in character on guild and groupchat...And ya know what? It really made the game for us. It was Star Wars to us, we were there, Stormtroopers in Star Wars.
bria right? heh i was debating weather i should join them or not... instead i became leader of TIE allied with Ghost that was called something else i cant remember.. was 2 years ago... one of the 5 imperial faction leaders
(for those who where not there the imperials had united and formed an alliance of guilds controled by 1 guild and managed by 4 others.) every other guild leader for other imp guild folloed orders from the 1 leader guild who decided the attack pvp raids on bases on weekely meeting... the whole imperial faction was working as 1 guild (sort of like cells and clusters squadrons legions wtv yo uwant to call it) ive never seen that in any other game.