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What everyone thinks of lineage II...

hey, i'm in need of some help. I'm a SWG refugee, and so far no MMO has really appealed to me crafting and role-playing wise, and a buddy of mine told me to try lineage II. My question is; What is eveyone's opinion on lineage II? think it will appeal to a SWG vet?

-Kerbouchard


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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Lineage 2 is a great game.

    But it won't appeal to a SWG vet, far from it. the game is completely diffrent.

    I think its better if you have a look at Saga of Ryzom, or maybe EVE.

    But don't play Lineage 2 expecting a SWG. you will be dissapointed.


  • HorashioHorashio Member Posts: 33

    I can't give you the SWG angle (never played it).

    Lineage II is a pretty hard core PvP game.     I found the character models, the animations and the game world beautiful and well done.   Guilds can control Cities and then in turn set taxes on NPC merchants.  When you die to a Player character you have a chance to drop any item in your inventory (or equipped).   You also take an experience hit (which in a game that is pretty hard to level hurts considerably).   Chinese loot farmers were often complained about when I played but I treated them like NPC mobs with uber AI.  You never knew when one was going to try to gank you.   The bots were a little more aggravating.    Despite some of these shortcommings.  Lineage is in my top 5 mmorpgs of all time.  

  • SONOFAGUNNSONOFAGUNN Member Posts: 414

    I had pretty much the same experience as EvilC... nobody wants to be  a healer in a group, while I did play as that sometimes it was not fun for me and few people wanted that powerful battle mage only.

    The community by and large is decent but there are a lot of real @!$holes there also..but what games doesn't have those.

    On a scale of 1-10, I give it a solid 7.5......

    great graphics in the game

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  • KerbouchardKerbouchard Member Posts: 106
    thanks, i think i'll give it a try. I tryed playing WoW prior, but then i realized how much effort you really have to devote to the game in order to get at least decent gear at 60.. i'm not much of a group guy. i like to solo, but i also like raids and such. but you really have devote at least 2-3 years of going on the same run a billion times to get gear, and tolarate eveyone's bitching when you win the role.

    thanks for the imput

    -Kerbouchard


  • SwiffSwiff Member Posts: 28

    Hope you like to grind, because thats all you'll ever do in L2. Economy is fubar. Open PVP, except no one wants to PVP because they're afraid of losing their equipment. In short, a waste of time.

  • KerbouchardKerbouchard Member Posts: 106
    can you ubild houses in lineage II? house/buildings/etc.?

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Check out the library at http://www.lineage2.com/ 

    Make sure understand how PvP works and how the economy works (manor system) also read up on all the new player benefits. Look over the classes at level 20 and at lvl 40 so you have an idea where to start.

    Check out the L2 forums. They are a better source of info then this board. http://boards.lineage2.com/ubbthreads.php 

    No house building, sorry. L2 is a mass combat game, its not a sandbox.

  • ShuleiShulei Member Posts: 26

    Nope. You can only 'own' one of the castles - Aden, Giran - and only as part of a clan, after successfully sieging a castle, which you then have to defend against future sieges. However owners of castles may charge taxes in certain towns.

    L2 doesn't have any housing. The crafting system is also kinda painful. It's very much a group game (you can solo but it's not half as fun or effective). I don't think there is a single really soloable character aside from summoners, and maybe shilien knights.

    I tried and liked both healer (elven oracle) and nuker (elf wizard), though my main chars were bladedancer and swordsinger (buffer/fighter classes).

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  • PraorPraor Member Posts: 519
    Great game ( really is ) but difficult if your a solo or even a casual player (not impossible ). Other then that beautiful graphics and sound and overall good community. On the same note SWG fans don't take to well to Lin2,different styles in both games. Don't forget to look at Saga of Ryzom,lot's of SWG refugees there :)

    Waiting on Guild Wars 2

  • Eol-Eol- Member UncommonPosts: 274

    L2 is a terrible game... a terrible game that could have been quite good. I have seen a game so overrun by bots and farmers... and in a game where gear is key, and gold is the key to getting good gear, having lots of gold farmers selling on ebay is a disaster. The monitors did virtually nothing to control this, you would see a bot, report it, and the bot would still be there doing the same thing a week later. You would see a player doing exploits, report it, and nothing would happen, and the players would just laugh at the people reporting them.

    The PvP component is broken - because if you attack someone, you can be attacked yourself and are likely to drop items - items you worked weeks to afford to buy. So instead of fighting, people would have alts they would log on to attack you, hoping that if/when you attacked back, their friends would jump you and take your dropped items.

    And the community was the most immature, pvp punk community you can imagine. Although in saying that, I realize that a good portion of the mmorpg.com crowd would fit right in ;)

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  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188
    Actually the weird thing was, I remember at one point, I saw a bunch of people coming from SWG to Lineage 2, maybe around the time the new SWG came or something.

    I say try it out, but give it more than just a few hours, try it for a few weeks.


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  • HerkmeckHerkmeck Member Posts: 206

    I did'nt like the graphics...sorry not into young girls.  Other then that I liked the way you could progress, not too much into grind 1-10 seemed to be set up just right.  spells were so-so.  weapons and armor were good.  If you did'nt pay attention some PK'er would come buy and kill you to quickly, but the rest of the comunity was pretty decent.

  • r0hnr0hn Member Posts: 185

    Overall I liked L2.  I played it for 5 months from the day it was released.  The game is a hardcore MMO, most hardcore I have played.  If you play L2, plan on a 4 year timeframe for finishing 1 character.  Yes, that is 4 years.  The grind is unbelievable.  You'll spend months using the same gear until you can get new stuff.  You'll have to kill the same monsters so many times that it ends up being monotonous.

    Lacks item diversity. 

    Grind is unbelievable.

    Join now and you are 2 years behind everyone else.

    Otherwise, it has nice graphics and is a solid game.  Entertaining for awhile.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905


    Originally posted by r0hn

    Overall I liked L2.  I played it for 5 months from the day it was released.  The game is a hardcore MMO, most hardcore I have played.  If you play L2, plan on a 4 year timeframe for finishing 1 character.  Yes, that is 4 years.  The grind is unbelievable.  You'll spend months using the same gear until you can get new stuff.  You'll have to kill the same monsters so many times that it ends up being monotonous. The grind is still tough but lightened up below level 40 or so, depending on what you call hard grind. You can hit level 20 and do your first class transfer over a casual weekend now. People hit cap in 6 to 8 months now a days. If you are slow like me, maybe a year. I've seen guildies hit 50 in 2 months. (of course they are twinked)
    Lacks item diversity.  somewhat agree. the customization thing is sort of sacrificed for the mass combat. I would rather have the huge sieges then 10 different hairstyles and 40 swords to choose from that no one looks at / cares about anyway. The game needs cloaks and more variety in items like jewelry.
    Grind is unbelievable. Its lightened up since that 1st year. C5 is bringing more enhancements to soloing and making a bit easier again to level up.
    Join now and you are 2 years behind everyone else. There is a new Euro server opening Sept 6. Everyone will be naked lol.  I started playing last Oct and never got the impression I was "behind everyone else".
    Otherwise, it has nice graphics and is a solid game.  Entertaining for awhile. Come try the new server next month


  • JaziaJazia Member Posts: 584


    Originally posted by Horashio
     When you die to a Player character you have a chance to drop any item in your inventory (or equipped).   You also take an experience hit (which in a game that is pretty hard to level hurts considerably).   

    1. Players do NOT drop anything when die to another players. The chance of dropping items in such situation is 0% ! Players do have a chance to drop stuff when die to a MOB, and it is completely random!

    The PKers, if they kill players who did not fight back. Those pkers' names will become red, and when these red name Pkers die, they have a high chance to drop items.


    2. Players lose 4% xp when die. Same 4% apply to both dying to player or a mob. If you respawn to the nearest village, you will lose this 4% xp for real. If you get a % revive from a healer, you get some XP back. The higheset % revive is 90%. And if your clan is in a clan war with another clan, you lose only 1% xp per death when you die to the enemy clan. You still can use % revive to save more XP. Clan hall owning clans can respawn inside clan hall for a 50% rez, so they basicly only lose 0.5% xp from clan war by respawning. If they have a high level correctly setup healer, they can still use 90% rez and lose only 0.1% xp per death in clan war.


  • JaziaJazia Member Posts: 584

    [quote[Originally posted by r0hn
    Overall I liked L2.  I played it for 5 months from the day it was released.  The game is a hardcore MMO, most hardcore I have played.  If you play L2, plan on a 4 year timeframe for finishing 1 character.  Yes, that is 4 years.  The grind is unbelievable.  You'll spend months using the same gear until you can get new stuff.  You'll have to kill the same monsters so many times that it ends up being monotonous.
    Lacks item diversity. 
    Grind is unbelievable.
    Join now and you are 2 years behind everyone else.
    Otherwise, it has nice graphics and is a solid game.  Entertaining for awhile.[/quote]

    First hit level 75 was 7 months since Open Beta.

    And now there are lots lots lots of level 75+, and it's only 2 years. Many people actually PvP a lot, which they lose lots of XP in process. If you don't PvP until max out, you can do it in 6 months if you do it right.

    L2 is all about buffs. Buffs make huge difference. Buffed you can beat 3 unbuffed yourself. Back in the early days, everyone was low level. Healers level slow, which is why there was no high level buffs. One Perfect buffed 9-man party can easily beat 50 other same level players who aren't buffed.

    Not to mention C3 introduced several new rules that make level much easier.
    1. 30% duo bonus
    2. 20% open field bonus
    3. green mobs give full xp

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905


    Originally posted by Horashio

    I can't give you the SWG angle (never played it).
    Lineage II is a pretty hard core PvP game.     I found the character models, the animations and the game world beautiful and well done.   Guilds can control Cities and then in turn set taxes on NPC merchants.  When you die to a Player character you have a chance to drop any item in your inventory (or equipped).   You also take an experience hit (which in a game that is pretty hard to level hurts considerably).   Chinese loot farmers were often complained about when I played but I treated them like NPC mobs with uber AI.  You never knew when one was going to try to gank you.   The bots were a little more aggravating.    Despite some of these shortcommings.  Lineage is in my top 5 mmorpgs of all time.  


    He either didn't understand the PvP rules or didn't play long enough to figure them out.

    Here are the PvP rulesets

    http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/cp.html 

    Players who are not Red do not drop items in PvP. Its that simple.

    The only way to get red is to kill another player who doesn't fight back.

    So basically if you gank, you are rewarded with a very high chance of item drop, reds have the best loot in the game. Also killing Reds gives no karma/penalty. 

    L2 punishes gankers harshly.

  • Synyster777Synyster777 Member Posts: 301
    dam straight Torak I wish people would read about the game instead of just talking trash then maybe lineage II would have a higher rating

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