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makkah · August 2006

So what's the deal here? Has the schedule changed considerably in HJ updates? I admit that I have always looked forward to Tuesdays, but now, I'm worried about HJ

Techleo · August 2006

Generally speaking when Simurtonics has something big in the works they go silent. There deffinetly not one of the most "get that info out!" sorta groups. that said they just signed a deal with Bio-ware. Id be amazed if they get much of anything out for a few weeks. Dude! You gota see the lowlands too!

Amathe · August 2006

For some reason new info has kind of dried up.

I am still stoked about the game because I am 100% sure it will rock, but I wish they would throw us a bone or something lol.

HJ-DEZORIN · August 2006

Don't worry. Busy... sooo busy.

DeserttFoxx · August 2006

Originally posted by HJ-DEZORIN
Don't worry. Busy... sooo busy.

Expecting something big from all this busy work, talking screenshots maybe even videos. A lot of us want so much from this game, but its hard to follow when the game is a year away from release with so few details availible to us to.

HJ-DEZORIN · August 2006

Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

Originally posted by HJ-DEZORIN
Don't worry. Busy... sooo busy.

Expecting something big from all this busy work, talking screenshots maybe even videos. A lot of us want so much from this game, but its hard to follow when the game is a year away from release with so few details availible to us to.

Not sure what to say, really. Simu did just announce a pretty huge thing with HeroEngine being licensed to BioWare Austin. I know HeroEngine developments do not directly show HJ progress, but the engine has come very far (far enough to be licensed out!), and thus, HJ development continues to benefit from that.

I'm in no position to make announcements or anything, I just don't want anyone to worry. We're still trucking along.

Agent_X7 · August 2006

Here's a question everyone needs to ask themselves:

Which do you like more; A game like EQII where they hype the hell out of it, send new screenshots all the time, movies appear weekly, the developers are constantly talking it up, and you get info all the time. Then whe it comes out, it sucks. Bugs beyond what you'd expect in a beta, let alone a release, broken quests, missing features, and countles little irritations. To this day they still have a lot of the launch bugs.

Or would you rather have a game where the information is a little sparse, since the devs are busy working on the game. Sure, there's pictures and movies, but not many, and we don't hear from the team too much. But when the game omes out, it's polished, most of the features are in AND working, it doesn't crash every few minutes, and it is basically fun as hell to play.

I would much rather let the Simu people work and get this thing done right than see new pics every week.

DeserttFoxx · August 2006

I would like a game company that managed to find a happy medium. I dont care for flase promises, but not a fan of bein in the dark either.

Not asking for constant stream of hyping and screen shots. But at least 1 official video.

Its great that a big company wants to use heroengine, it means that this game wont be using some washed up gaming engine not only that, the engine they created is so good, other companies want to use it even before the game its being created for has been released. That is very good to know, it means i havent choosen to invest my time in the wrong game.

I just would like to see an article or something saying how the progress is going. So we dont get threats like this, wondering why there are cobwebs growing on our forums.

raccoon · August 2006

You can't expect much information to be released while everything is still in development. Once the NDA gets lifted, they're in the home stretch and don't have to worry so much about anyone else "borrowing" their ideas. You'll see tons new screenshots, videos, and all the various websites listing all the classes and abilities will start cropping up. It's the same for nearly every group, especially one that's doing something they consider quite new for the MMO market. City of Heroes was very hush-hush about things for the two years before it came out, and it was going to be the only Superhero MMO on the market.

Amathe · August 2006

Originally posted by Agent_X7
Here's a question everyone needs to ask themselves:

Which do you like more; A game like EQII where they hype the hell out of it, send new screenshots all the time, movies appear weekly, the developers are constantly talking it up, and you get info all the time. Then whe it comes out, it sucks. Bugs beyond what you'd expect in a beta, let alone a release, broken quests, missing features, and countles little irritations. To this day they still have a lot of the launch bugs.

Or would you rather have a game where the information is a little sparse, since the devs are busy working on the game. Sure, there's pictures and movies, but not many, and we don't hear from the team too much. But when the game omes out, it's polished, most of the features are in AND working, it doesn't crash every few minutes, and it is basically fun as hell to play.

I would much rather let the Simu people work and get this thing done right than see new pics every week.

I think it's a function of expectations. For example, I am looking forward to Star Trek Online, but boy what a dry well of info that is. They haven't told us hardly anything about that game (of course it is in a nascent stage). I could give many other examples of games in development where information is a scarce as hen's teeth.

But traditionally HJ has not been like that. They release screenshots, give interviews, and write articles. Their Devs posted frequently on these boards. So a lot of us have gotten very excited by that. And then, all of a sudden, they practically go dark. It's more a function of the change from past practices to current ones than them falling short of what is customary.

By the way, the people who post screenshots, dole out blurbs of info, etc. are typically not the same people who are coding the game. So this false dichotemy (where if they stay in touch with the community they just have to unplug the computers and stop making the game) isn't accurate. They can do both. Lots of companies do.

makkah · August 2006

Originally posted by parrotpholk
Hopefully some more info will start to slowly leak out soon. Its been awhile since I last heard anything major on the game but looking forward to it either way. Least it isnt over hyped.

Although it could be said that we're feeling the effects of overhype right now. I've seen games hyped overmuch at announcement only to dwindle until beta. I remain hopeful for HJ (as a GS player for 9 years, I pretty much have to), but it's somewhat disheartening seeing such a nice slowing to a trickle.

HJ-Rowell · August 2006

At the moment, the gang is gearing up for the AGC (Austin Game Convention), so I'm sure that there will be more information publicized in and around that timeframe.

If ya'll are worried about work slowing down, trust me, nothing could be farther from the truth. People are working like busy little bees making some really jaw dropping environments and such.

okay, time to find a richer source of caffeine. Espresso made with caffinated water, with a Jolt chaser, is no longer cutting the mustard. ;p

phosphoros · August 2006

Originally posted by HJ-Rowell
okay, time to find a richer source of caffeine. Espresso made with caffinated water, with a Jolt chaser, is no longer cutting the mustard. ;p

How about this? and an Espresso IV?

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Agent_X7 · August 2006

Originally posted by Amathe

Originally posted by Agent_X7
Here's a question everyone needs to ask themselves:

Which do you like more; A game like EQII where they hype the hell out of it, send new screenshots all the time, movies appear weekly, the developers are constantly talking it up, and you get info all the time. Then whe it comes out, it sucks. Bugs beyond what you'd expect in a beta, let alone a release, broken quests, missing features, and countles little irritations. To this day they still have a lot of the launch bugs.

Or would you rather have a game where the information is a little sparse, since the devs are busy working on the game. Sure, there's pictures and movies, but not many, and we don't hear from the team too much. But when the game omes out, it's polished, most of the features are in AND working, it doesn't crash every few minutes, and it is basically fun as hell to play.

I would much rather let the Simu people work and get this thing done right than see new pics every week.

I think it's a function of expectations. For example, I am looking forward to Star Trek Online, but boy what a dry well of info that is. They haven't told us hardly anything about that game (of course it is in a nascent stage). I could give many other examples of games in development where information is a scarce as hen's teeth.

But traditionally HJ has not been like that. They release screenshots, give interviews, and write articles. Their Devs posted frequently on these boards. So a lot of us have gotten very excited by that. And then, all of a sudden, they practically go dark. It's more a function of the change from past practices to current ones than them falling short of what is customary.

By the way, the people who post screenshots, dole out blurbs of info, etc. are typically not the same people who are coding the game. So this false dichotemy (where if they stay in touch with the community they just have to unplug the computers and stop making the game) isn't accurate. They can do both. Lots of companies do.

Typically, they are not. But Simu is anything but typical, and I know for a fact that Steph and others who have posted are all actually doing work on the game itself.

HJ-KURRASOE · August 2006

I wouldn't worry much, really.

The input impact of Hero's Engine and licensing stuff will directly impact what we are able to output.

Be assured that we are constantly working on all aspects of the game's development. A week does not go by without stuff happening. Regardless of anybody's opinion, we have the motiviation and talent (both are necessary) to do the absolute best job out there. In fact, Simutronics has been doing so for a long time, and you should expect no less.

But that expectation, and our own ideals, also mean that we WILL take the time to do it right. That's the general opinion I get from everyone involved, and matches my own.

I'd say more, but then I'd have to alert my spies and have you all killed. Sorry.

Besides. Just think of it like this - the less you know, the more you get to explore later.

Delayed gratification, oh noes!

Really, what fun is it having read all lore, mechanics, and monkeyness about a game outside of said game, when you can do so inside said game as you develop your character? That's like allowing gamefaqs.com to play your games for you. Why rent somebody else's brain, when I've got a perfectly good one? That's just my opinion, I
suppose.

I understand you want to understand the role before you roleplay. Trust me, I do. I'm sure we'll have some stuff for you here and there. Just don't expect a whole lot.

In short - I think you'll all love what you see, when you see it. I know I do.

REALLY want to know more? Got that imaginative itch? Feels like it isn't satisfied? Go fill out an application and join us.

I'll even have one of my sla - - - er, one of those silly Suwari guys bake you a cookie or two.

RemyVorender · September 2006

You guys have already given out way more info/screens/videos than I ever would have asked for. I just wish certain, other games I'm following would use you guys as an example on how to handle their community.

Cheers guys, can't wait to play this next year. Don't let us down.

DeserttFoxx · September 2006

Thats prolly the reason i can follow this game. Even though there isnt a crazy amount of press, you can find gms that are activly being apart of communties, whether it is a database site like this, or fan sites and the official sites, you have gms taking part in discussions, asking questions to find out what will influenece the game and activily seeking their communities insight.

Once this game is released i hope that this will continue.

Dyng-Johan · September 2006

Originally posted by remyburke

You guys have already given out way more info/screens/videos than I ever would have asked for. I just wish certain, other games I'm following would use you guys as an example on how to handle their community.
Cheers guys, can't wait to play this next year. Don't let us down.

As far as I know, theres no video from simutronics yet.. but other then that, I agree with you..

RemyVorender · September 2006

I've seen several gameplay vids of HJ. try youtube.

Dyng-Johan · September 2006

Originally posted by remyburke
I've seen several gameplay vids of HJ. try youtube.

as I said, non of which Simutronics has released.
All I´ve seen so far Is crappy handycam videos.

..allthough, I might have missunderstod the "You guys.." in your post.

RemyVorender · September 2006

Originally posted by Dyng-Johan

Originally posted by remyburke
I've seen several gameplay vids of HJ. try youtube.

as I said, non of which Simutronics has released.
All I´ve seen so far Is crappy handycam videos.

..allthough, I might have missunderstod the "You guys.." in your post.

You think Simutronics didn't ok the release of those cam vids? You think someone went all 007 on their asses and ninja taped it? Come on now lol.

Thank your lucky stars for all the screens and vids you've seen. Trust me, it could be a lot worse. I've been following another game and haven't even seen so much as a screenshot in over 6 months!

Valendros · September 2006

Anybody else notice that when the updates stopped coming every week, the talk in the forums slowed to a crawl?

Dyng-Johan · September 2006

Well, if Simutronics dont give us something to talk about the result is a silent forum...

Since last E3 Simu seems to put very much off the time, that used to be on spreading information to the fan community about HJ, on Heros Engine instead.

So the ball is in Simu´s hands now...

DeserttFoxx · September 2006

Was hopeing this Austin Game conference would bring us something to talk about.. sadly nothing.

Techleo · September 2006

Sheesh this is the first time in 2 weeks Ive check into HJ. Seems realy quite. Must be the Hero's Engine. I imagine working with Bioware takes alot of time.

Anofalye · September 2006

I expect them to be working a LOT more on the engine now, and this is good news...since more work on the basic (BioWare is looking at them after all), means that HJ will also benefit from it.

BioWare, whatever they are doing, is my #1 expectation...and HJ is still #2! I looking forward to what they do in the future...and the more work they put on the engine...the happier I am...since that work benefit my best hopes for 2 good MMOs!

I also realize that now they are in a slippery situation. See, with a potential player as me, it is hard to advertise a LOT when the leading competitor is their customer (BioWare)! Still, my hopes are high, even if their NERF-answer wasn't pleasing and that there is still an itchy feeling that I dunno why I have it, I still hold great hopes for their project!

Looking forward to the release of HJ...and BioWare MMOs. Now, if a game is to beat WoW out there...let's be frank about it...it is BioWare, and I have every confidence that with the right stuff from both teams, either on the engine or on their game, they will make it out flamboyants! Just bring the players the goodies and...if you surprised me and HJ become #1, then great, but I will admit, that until I see the released products, you can't really convince me (unless BioWare make mistakes and shot themselves in their feet, I doubt that, but we never know).

I envy HJ staff...their are working with concrete examples of BioWare MMO's, they know much about this future release! Think it is time to coerce some info from them!

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