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so ... umm... what makes this EVE game so special?

wookieewookiee Member Posts: 151
in EVE Online
maybe i dont really understand whats going on here but all you do is fly around, mine and attempt to kill other players?
build some stuff and sell some stuff?
is that it? or is there more?
is it a time sink? I just wanna find a game i can relax and enjoy a bit before i go to sleep.



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  • SobaManSobaMan Member Posts: 384
    Nope, nothing more to it.  Move along.

    We can agree to disagree, or we can bicker constantly... either way, I'm right.
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  • wookieewookiee Member Posts: 151

    Originally posted by SobaMan
    Nope, nothing more to it.  Move along.


    so then what do you play? or are you waiting for somthing good to come along?

  • F'larF'lar Member Posts: 60

    hehe yea you just fly around and mine and kill other players.

      You also need a couple of calculators to do good in the in-game market.

       If you dont do the tutorial you will be hopelessly lost.

      you will meet other players that will help you till the end of time or steal your teeth if you close your eyes.

      You will never meet a "leet" player.

      There is no handholding in the game AT ALL. you either figure out the game and become so addicted its almost not funny, or you dont figure it out and hate the game because it makes you think.

  • Stratus8Stratus8 Member Posts: 173
    EVE is a time sink. You spend months and months researching and learning new skills. But the economy is all player influenced which makes this game unique and then there are other fun aspects after you grind and grind and got yourself a nice ship and stuffs I think lol
  • PegasusJFPegasusJF Member Posts: 268

    EVE is a game so much more than a sum of it's parts. I don't think it would be a game to fall asleep to.

  • SheistaSheista Member UncommonPosts: 1,203

    Without saying "This game sucks" or "This game is awesome", I will just say this.


    EVE is a very open-ended game.  It is what you make it.  Unlike traditional MMO types, there is no single driving purpose in the game.  If you want to PvP, you can.  If you just want to fly the coolest ships around, you can.  If you want to play the market and make billions, you can.  Want to mine and make money, you can.  Want a big corporation that does these things?  You can run one, or you can join one.

    Granted, all things will take time.  Most things in the game will take time to understand or do, and some people don't like to take the time for such things.  Ironically, someone who doesn't have much time to devote to an MMO can still succeed in this time-oriented game, due to the skill system.  (Skills can always be training, even while offline)

    So really, the game is what you make it.  Run missions, PvP, mine, join a corporation and do these things.  Do really anything you want in the game and make it fun for yourself.  Some people like having a single goal to work towards.  Other MMOs have end-game raids, level limits to work towards, and better gear to earn once you're at that end-game stage.

    For people like that, EVE may not be for you, as its end-game is whatever you want it to be.



  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087

    Originally posted by wookiee
    maybe i dont really understand whats going on here but all you do is fly around, mine and attempt to kill other players?
    build some stuff and sell some stuff?
    is that it? or is there more?
    is it a time sink? I just wanna find a game i can relax and enjoy a bit before i go to sleep.



    First of all i will say there is a lot more to eve than what yuo are doing now i advise you join a palyer corperation and see how the game changes you might be suprised and you will begine to see how eve can be an immersive game...

    Corp V Corp

    thats where eve can get intence and the reasons for this to  happen is numerouse for example.

    Gank corp v Mining corp

    Gank corp v Gank corp

    Mercenary corp V Gank corp

    Mercenary corp v mercenary corp

    mining corp v mining corp

    mining corp v gank corp

    traders v traders.

    There are lots of reasons to fight then again there are lots of reasons for corps to make friends such as forming a trading alliance the polotics in eve can get very complex and far reaching.

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  • tennotsukaitennotsukai Member Posts: 26

    Originally posted by Sheista
    Without saying "This game sucks" or "This game is awesome", I will just say this.


    EVE is a very open-ended game.  It is what you make it.  Unlike traditional MMO types, there is no single driving purpose in the game.  If you want to PvP, you can.  If you just want to fly the coolest ships around, you can.  If you want to play the market and make billions, you can.  Want to mine and make money, you can.  Want a big corporation that does these things?  You can run one, or you can join one.

    Granted, all things will take time.  Most things in the game will take time to understand or do, and some people don't like to take the time for such things.  Ironically, someone who doesn't have much time to devote to an MMO can still succeed in this time-oriented game, due to the skill system.  (Skills can always be training, even while offline)

    So really, the game is what you make it.  Run missions, PvP, mine, join a corporation and do these things.  Do really anything you want in the game and make it fun for yourself.  Some people like having a single goal to work towards.  Other MMOs have end-game raids, level limits to work towards, and better gear to earn once you're at that end-game stage.

    For people like that, EVE may not be for you, as its end-game is whatever you want it to be.


    That pretty much sums it up... Yes it may sometimes take a short while before you can do X, unlike some games where its pretty much instant gratification or your spoon fed content. Eve can be warm and freindly while being cold and heartless at the same time.

  • fizzle322fizzle322 Member Posts: 723

    The game comes with a player filter.

    Those who try to play Eve like a typical WoW or EQ end up frustrated and quit.

    Which leaves behind a high quality community.
  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    Originally posted by fizzle322

    The game comes with a player filter.

    Those who try to play Eve like a typical WoW or EQ end up frustrated and quit.

    Which leaves behind a high quality community.

    And it's people like you who make the community look bad.  Please leave your elitism at the door.  EQ players and WoW players aren't bad players.  They just enjoy a different style game than EVE.

    Good lord.  Matter of fact MOST EVE players I know also play WoW... so much for that theory, eh?  And, no, I don't like WoW... so don't even go there.

    Bottom line: you can say EVE is a good game and has a great community, without insulting players of other games.

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  • NatEVENatEVE Member Posts: 92
    As I understand it, a lot of EVE players are ex-WoW players. I know one or two people that have a WoW raiding group they do on the weekends but I've also heard from many an ex-WoW player that one reason they play EVE is to get away from the much younger player community in WoW.

  • lowradslowrads Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Well, there is that old saying that boring people get bored.

    I think the first step to realizing just how much you can do is first realizing what you really really want to do.


    For me, what I really really want to do, is to work with greedy, self-interested, distrustful people and find consistent ways for them to make money by going through my network. 

    I like the idea of approaching a manufacturing corp based in Agil, finding out graphs of their production on Caracals, examine the regional competition, scout them out, then have separate search and destroy teams go after their core till a certain set of members or divisions in the corp break up.  Then going back to the original corp, examining the earnings increase in that period and taking my share.

    And then finding a way to keep lots of search teams and destroy teams busy with their commissions while having dozens of production corps relying upon my services.

    I'm interested in this goal because:
    -I don't think it's been done on a large scale before.
    -I like organizing people.
    -It's a goal that doesn't exactly have an end point.
    -It's a goal that can not only fail, but can be reached and still later lost.
    -I have to deal with a lot of shifting desires on the part of partners.
    -I get to make a lot of people angry, although some of them won't even know it's me that's responsible.
    -Alot of folks will never figure out how I do such bad things to them so efficiently and will become deeply paranoid.
    -I can treat people like you would in a real corporation, and I don't have to be "with us or against us."  I can just be "for the profit" instead of someone's friend. 
    -I can be as critical as I want.
    -I don't have to play fair.
    -I can make decisions about my own actions in regards to profit and loss analysis.
    -I give lots of people a reason to deal with me subjectively and with a sense of enterprise.
    -I don't have to kill any stupid npcs, or sit in safespots, or camp a gate, or wait for anything.


  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    Originally posted by wookiee
    maybe i dont really understand whats going on here but all you do is fly around, mine and attempt to kill other players?
    build some stuff and sell some stuff?
    is that it? or is there more?
    is it a time sink? I just wanna find a game i can relax and enjoy a bit before i go to sleep.


    that is just it, it is the least time sinkish and yet sickeningly addictive game that I have ever played.  I never HAVE to be playing for any reason, I never HAVE to go level up due to the way the skill system works.  I never feel pressured to play, and therefore I have more fun when I do actually play.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • koopabrotherkoopabrother Member Posts: 4
    You get lasers that go PEWPEWPEW, it was enough for me to get hooked.

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  • ThargatThargat Member Posts: 7

    Eve should not be played by the singleplayer fan. If you like grinding, improving your character and living in the belief that you character is the baddest guy out there, EvE is NOT for you. It's a evil game (but the best one out there today). If you go out trying to get "ahead" by leaving secure areas and do dangerous missions and roam around dangerous neighbourhoods you WILL get stomped. Either by nasty PC-pirates or by paranoid Mega-Corps.

    Loosing your ship and all it's equipment can be a very annoying experience. It's NOT for the fainthearted. It's HARDCORE and it's about "THEM". You'r just a little fish in a veeeeery large pond. Wich is what I like about it. I'd rather see another player bashing me up good than a NPC. It gives the feel that nothing is lost. My death is another ones gain. Wich also applies in reverse.

    The only other game that I have felt was as hardcore was Ultima Online (early). PvP should be tough and dangerous. But victory feels even sweeter when you get that adrenaline rush (knowing that if you loose you REALLY LOOSE).

  • AquakittyAquakitty Member Posts: 310
    What if you just can't see a  reason to care about being a tin can in space? Wheres the drive to get a new ship? Why should a new player care about any of your community?

    I don't see EVE's charm yet...




  • lChaosllChaosl Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by fizzle322

    The game comes with a player filter.

    Those who try to play Eve like a typical WoW or EQ end up frustrated and quit.

    Which leaves behind a high quality community.


     yep, zomg i cant grind to be better!!!111!!1one! It takes about 1 1/2 to 2 months to become as good as a veteran in one specific area. It doesnt matter if the have Titan 5 and all that if they are flying a cruiser.

    What I think makes EvE special is there is no hand holding. The smart survive, the stupid die. If you get scammed and you complain to the gm's they will say too bad so sad (unless you were scammed by an exploit like the bpc/bpo escrow thing). There are no character levels to show how much more 1337 you are than others. And the devs dont say this is how you have fun, they say its up to you.

  • SambrisSambris Member Posts: 8

    Originally posted by koopabrother
    You get lasers that go PEWPEWPEW, it was enough for me to get hooked.


    Hehe, that's the best reason ever :) Thanks for the laugh
  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    Originally posted by fizzle322

    The game comes with a player filter.

    Those who try to play Eve like a typical WoW or EQ end up frustrated and quit.

    Which leaves behind a high quality community.


    Fo shizzle Mr Fizzle!

    He speaks the truth.  EVE was coded with a state of the art filter that identifies Hyperactivity Attention Deficit Disorder then kicks those players from the game without their concent.  It's pure genious!

    Patent pending...

  • DyrttDyrtt Member Posts: 422

    Originally posted by wookiee
    ...I just wanna find a game i can relax and enjoy a bit before i go to sleep.




    Honestly, you may want to look elsewhere if that's what you want.  Eve is definitly not a casual friendly game IMO.

    I'm actually trying to decide if I have time for this game.  I want to play so bad but I have so many RL responsabilities that I don't know if I can and make any meaningfull progress.

    But yes, there is ALOT more to the game than the things you listed.
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087

    Originally posted by Aquakitty
    What if you just can't see a  reason to care about being a tin can in space?Pretty much the same as being a elf or whatever in games like WoW all pretty much the same Wheres the drive to get a new ship? Err because there are differnt types of ships all with well defined roles Why should a new player care about any of your community? Err because this is a Multiplayer game and the community actuall has some real power in this game.

    I don't see EVE's charm yet...



    Its quite obvious now you have tried to play eve as a single player game perhaps you should try joining a player run corp for a change.

    Also bear in mind the avitars are SHIPS not people so they will all look similar to each other.

    When you compare this to WoW tho it seems even stranger when you see that everyone looks the same there too....And the avitars are not ships in wow 

    I think the problem for you concerning the avitar thing in eve is that you are not really exersizing your imagination much which is a shame it seems a lot of the younger generation has a alck of this lately i blame T.V.

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  • is.lander.12is.lander.12 Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by Sheista

    Without saying "This game sucks" or "This game is awesome", I will just say this.


    EVE is a very open-ended game.  It is what you make it.  Unlike traditional MMO types, there is no single driving purpose in the game.  If you want to PvP, you can.  If you just want to fly the coolest ships around, you can.  If you want to play the market and make billions, you can.  Want to mine and make money, you can.  Want a big corporation that does these things?  You can run one, or you can join one.

    Granted, all things will take time.  Most things in the game will take time to understand or do, and some people don't like to take the time for such things.  Ironically, someone who doesn't have much time to devote to an MMO can still succeed in this time-oriented game, due to the skill system.  (Skills can always be training, even while offline)

    So really, the game is what you make it.  Run missions, PvP, mine, join a corporation and do these things.  Do really anything you want in the game and make it fun for yourself.  Some people like having a single goal to work towards.  Other MMOs have end-game raids, level limits to work towards, and better gear to earn once you're at that end-game stage.

    For people like that, EVE may not be for you, as its end-game is whatever you want it to be.




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  • JhughesyJhughesy Member Posts: 419

    Originally posted by Dyrtt
    Honestly, you may want to look elsewhere if that's what you want.  Eve is definitly not a casual friendly game IMO.


    Eve is very friendly to the casual gamer. Have you ever took part in industry or trading? Very very slow and relaxed and no need to grind skills = casual gameplay

    Of course, if you want to run a corporation and become the largest undustrial power in Eve then you will have to work damn hard.

    Eve = choice

  • CastleGoobCastleGoob Member Posts: 134

    Originally posted by Aquakitty
    What if you just can't see a  reason to care about being a tin can in space? Wheres the drive to get a new ship? Why should a new player care about any of your community?

    I don't see EVE's charm yet...




    Drive to get a new ship.

    A: Have a better choice of mods an equipment in it.

    B: to have a better chance against PVE, PVP opponents

    C: to be able to carry more cargo for trading

    D: to be able to dig more minerals to either sell, build things with.

    E: to be able to do cov ops into a rival factions territory and survive or explore hostile territory an survive.

    These are all pretty common sence answers that could be applied to other games.

    New ship lets me do what I enjoy mutch better then my previus ships.

    Why do people care about the community.

    Because this is a multiplayer game and people want to interact with the community.

    sorry your not enjoying it, hope you find a game you do enjoy.

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