Vincent Pourieux started as a programmer at Infogrames in 1988. After having successfully contributed to the development of a dozen products, including blockbusters such as Asterix and Obelix, The Smurfs, Tintin…, he reached the position of consoles department Team Manager.
In 1997, he founded CPU Software development studio, dedicated specifically to R&D research. He laid the foundations of V-world real-time 3D terrain rendering technology, later rebranded VWorldTerrain.
In 1999 he co-founded EMG and carried out the development of several games titles, such as Speed Demons, Nike The Mission and the Eingana edutaimnent software.
In 2002, Vincent co-founded NP Cube and, as R&D Manager until August 2004, adapted VWorldTerrain technology to the needs of the client part of the Dark and LightMMORPG. Some issues about this project can be read in the description of the Mafate engine.
In April 2004 he formed VWORLD, LLC to succeed to CPU Software. He currently occupies the position of CEO at VWORLD, company in charge of constantly bringing new enhancements to VWorldTerrain technology and exploiting its related proprietary rights.
Yes, indeed. Anyway it continues to link to the Mafate Engine, thanks to the only sentence left from the Belgium contributor description (Sciere): "Some issues about this project can be read in the description of the Mafate engine." (just note that it had shifted from "this issue" to "some issues").
Interesting to note Sciere brought a lot of information about DnL, on August 15th for example, the game: (even named in Chinese and in simpified Chinese)
However it seems there is some lack of info on some of the other developers, since there is no bio of C.Jacquet, S.Quilichini and G.Zedde. Maybe it's because it is the first game they contributed to.
I've been banned 7 times from the DnL forums and had my IP addresses locked out.(Don't ask me why I keep going back...DnL is like watching a train wreck in progress, I just can't take my eyes off it.) But at least 2 times it was a subject such as this one. I couldn't tell you offhand.
What I find all very interesting is that if Farlan had feelers out in the forums...such as the bots, didn't they see the way the community is sliding downhill in a hurry? I mean, what is their true motivation if this is the case?
Could the rumors to the effect that they are just trying to grab as much cash as they can before the shit hits the fan be true??? But then, why the 3 free months?
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Originally posted by tepthtanis Could the rumors to the effect that they are just trying to grab as much cash as they can before the shit hits the fan be true??? But then, why the 3 free months?
Easy. People have to buy the game to get the 3 months "free". That gives them 3 months to collect as much cash from game sales as possible and then simply disappear.
Easy. People have to buy the game to get the 3 months "free". That gives them 3 months to collect as much cash from game sales as possible and then simply disappear.
That would explain why they sent people here to post high ratings for this game. Draw in new blood (suckers) to pay the 39.99. And perhaps the 3 free months is intended to passify the remaining fanbase so no more refunds will be asked for not to mention added incentive for noobs...Good point Zorvan!
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Originally posted by tepthtanis I've been banned 7 times from the DnL forums and had my IP addresses locked out.(Don't ask me why I keep going back...DnL is like watching a train wreck in progress, I just can't take my eyes off it.) But at least 2 times it was a subject such as this one. I couldn't tell you offhand. What I find all very interesting is that if Farlan had feelers out in the forums...such as the bots, didn't they see the way the community is sliding downhill in a hurry? I mean, what is their true motivation if this is the case? Could the rumors to the effect that they are just trying to grab as much cash as they can before the shit hits the fan be true??? But then, why the 3 free months?
As Zorvan said, people who want to play DnL have to buy it, even if it's free for 3 months till November. And then Farlan/NPCube will maybe offer others packs, such as Reconquest Premium Pack, including a flying pink Dodo and a Collector Badge of the land of Ganareth they will send... soon (but easier to do than a Pioneer map, isn't it?) And for all the new subscribers, they will certainly offer a new monthly payment system, including a new exclusive canceling process called "etc" (Easy To Cancel): the user will have to send an e-mail to CB and then to AD 3 months later and finally will need writing his bank to cancel his subsciption and then call the Rangers and...etc,etc etc.... (well... a cancel button is too hard to develop, you know, etc system is the future and is cost-effective). Sorry for this bad joke, but I couldn't resist.
Anyway, they will do all they can to make DnL survive because of Snailgame. According to the French forums, apparently they plan to release the Chinese version of DnL by mid 2007. If DnL dies, Snailgame will no doubt be very unhappy with this. Imagine: would you be satisfied of having put 40 people working hard on your game project if this project has already experienced total failure in his western version ...
Another reason to me is that they want to resell "their" game engine. They already had some articles alluding to the fact that they wanted to work with the instutional sector (like the University of Reunion Island), and of course they know which branches of industry VWorldTerrain is targeting.(BTW, VWorldTerrain was used in a French Atomic Energy Commission project years before NPCube was formed). Besides they are working with BW, wich is also present in these sectors...We failed in video game industry? Well let's see if we could try serious games and the institutionnal sector. But maybe I'm wrong: they just want to finish DnL.(no pun intended)
Originally posted by tepthtanis Could the rumors to the effect that they are just trying to grab as much cash as they can before the shit hits the fan be true??? But then, why the 3 free months?
Easy. People have to buy the game to get the 3 months "free". That gives them 3 months to collect as much cash from game sales as possible and then simply disappear.
Heh they are using the basic thing humans fall for: FREE. People tend to forget that nothing is free on this world and the customer will always be paying to get something free.
But besides that i cant understand people who are still givng their creditcard number to companies like that. Dont they do some research before buying a product. I wanted DnL to go live. I wanted to play DnL because of all the promises they made. But seeying all the crap that happened in the few months before it went live i rather give my creditcard number to the junks in the street then that company. At least the junks will tell you they abuse it, that company will grin in your face......i hate dishonesty, i hate lying.
Originally posted by _Pix_ Originally posted by tepthtanis I've been banned 7 times from the DnL forums and had my IP addresses locked out.(Don't ask me why I keep going back...DnL is like watching a train wreck in progress, I just can't take my eyes off it.) But at least 2 times it was a subject such as this one. I couldn't tell you offhand. What I find all very interesting is that if Farlan had feelers out in the forums...such as the bots, didn't they see the way the community is sliding downhill in a hurry? I mean, what is their true motivation if this is the case? Could the rumors to the effect that they are just trying to grab as much cash as they can before the shit hits the fan be true??? But then, why the 3 free months?
As Zorvan said, people who want to play DnL have to buy it, even if it's free for 3 months till November. And then Farlan/NPCube will maybe offer others packs, such as Reconquest Premium Pack, including a flying pink Dodo and a Collector Badge of the land of Ganareth they will send... soon (but easier to do than a Pioneer map, isn't it?) And for all the new subscribers, they will certainly offer a new monthly payment system, including a new exclusive canceling process called "etc" (Easy To Cancel): the user will have to send an e-mail to CB and then to AD 3 months later and finally will need writing his bank to cancel his subsciption and then call the Rangers and...etc,etc etc.... (well... a cancel button is too hard to develop, you know, etc system is the future and is cost-effective). Sorry for this bad joke, but I couldn't resist.
Anyway, they will do all they can to make DnL survive because of Snailgame. According to the French forums, apparently they plan to release the Chinese version of DnL by mid 2007. If DnL dies, Snailgame will no doubt be very unhappy with this. Imagine: would you be satisfied of having put 40 people working hard on your game project if this project has already experienced total failure in his western version ...
Another reason to me is that they want to resell "their" game engine. They already had some articles alluding to the fact that they wanted to work with the instutional sector (like the University of Reunion Island), and of course they know which branches of industry VWorldTerrain is targeting.(BTW, VWorldTerrain was used in a French Atomic Energy Commission project years before NPCube was formed). Besides they are working with BW, wich is also present in these sectors...We failed in video game industry? Well let's see if we could try serious games and the institutionnal sector. But maybe I'm wrong: they just want to finish DnL.(no pun intended)
1) the cancel subscribtion button in DnL will after pressing say: Thank you for adding a new subscribtion to DnL.
2) Did i read that right? "French atomic energy" We better find a new solar system before they are getting involved in that sort of stuff.
Wow -Pix_!!! If I knew you had such a good sense of humor I would've contacted you long ago. You're not the arrogant, self rightious, dildodong that the fanbois of DnL have you pegged to be! I am of course assuming that you are the real -Pix_ . It would be very pointless for someone to pretend to be Pix since that would be such a tiny little tingling of the nut sac that to do so would be pointless.
And I am, of course, being completely serious.
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1) the cancel subscribtion button in DnL will after pressing say: Thank you for adding a new subscribtion to DnL. 2) Did i read that right? "French atomic energy" We better find a new solar system before they are getting involved in that sort of stuff.
LOL!!! My thoughts exactly!!!!
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Originally posted by tepthtanis Wow -Pix_!!! If I knew you had such a good sense of humor I would've contacted you long ago. You're not the arrogant, self rightious, dildodong that the fanbois of DnL have you pegged to be! I am of course assuming that you are the real -Pix_ . It would be very pointless for someone to pretend to be Pix since that would be such a tiny little tingling of the nut sac that to do so would be pointless. And I am, of course, being completely serious.
Hello tepthtanis,
Yes, I am definitely the real _Pix_ and I'm giving you a good tip to check: If one day you read a post from me saying NPCube/Farlan are cutting-edge techology companies (as I've just read from the CEO of SnailGame), this would be for 2 possible reasons only: - somebody put me under (pretty harsh) crack OR/AND - it wasn't me writting this post and I'm probably dead by now.
In both cases, DnL fanbois will be told to say RIPPix. Alas for them, that day hasn't come yet.
Fanbois said I was an arrogant and self-righteous kind of person? So strange... they are not supposed to know me since I never made any interview with them, never met them. The only people I discussed with from the DnL community were people from SoF at E3, and I cannot consider them as fanbois anyway. Only cesar, Vuuar or Zedux were in charge of meeting their future customers and had a chance to discuss with fanbois (in what they call IRLs). Maybe one or two well-intentionned someones gave me a bad rep. Interesting, very new concept! LOL
Originally posted by thePREdiger Originally posted by _Pix_ The only people I discussed with from the DnL community were people from SoF at E3, and I cannot consider them as fanbois anyway.
This must have been Bluenose, Delta and CheeseMouse back in 2003 if I remember right. SoF got 5 free entry tickets for the E3. Sadly I lacked the time back then to join them or we would have met. Looking back today I could bite my ass for nt having met you.
Frankly I hope we will definitely meet one day. I know you've been supporting Dark and Light just as I have at the beginning. Prety sure you're quite disappointed bordering disgusted just as I am, and I must say I feel very sorry for that. For the record BTW, yes, I met with SoF guys at E3, not 2003, but 2004.
Hello tepthtanis, Yes, I am definitely the real _Pix_ and I'm giving you a good tip to check: If one day you read a post from me saying NPCube/Farlan are cutting-edge techology companies (as I've just read from the CEO of SnailGame), this would be for 2 possible reasons only: - somebody put me under (pretty harsh) crack OR/AND - it wasn't me writting this post and I'm probably dead by now. In both cases, DnL fanbois will be told to say RIPPix. Alas for them, that day hasn't come yet. Fanbois said I was an arrogant and self-righteous kind of person? So strange... they are not supposed to know me since I never made any interview with them, never met them. The only people I discussed with from the DnL community were people from SoF at E3, and I cannot consider them as fanbois anyway. Only cesar, Vuuar or Zedux were in charge of meeting their future customers and had a chance to discuss with fanbois (in what they call IRLs). Maybe one or two well-intentionned someones gave me a bad rep. Interesting, very new concept! LOL
I was being sarcastic _Pix_. Covering my ass if you will.
You are wrong though. I've seen Ztyx mention you in a thread himself. And of course he didn't have anything nice to say about you. I've known about you since january. I just didn't know your name. Perhaps people didn't come out and say "Pix is the root of all our problems!" But many, if not all at that time knew that the head dev of DnL left. And more recently you've been blamed for the downfall of DnL. Only recently have I seen you named.(Last 3 months) But you have been named. I'm sure someone else could quote me.(At least I hope!) LOL...
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I was being sarcastic _Pix_. Covering my ass if you will. You are wrong though. I've seen Ztyx mention you in a thread himself. And of course he didn't have anything nice to say about you. I've known about you since january. I just didn't know your name. Perhaps people didn't come out and say "Pix is the root of all our problems!" But many, if not all at that time knew that the head dev of DnL left. And more recently you've been blamed for the downfall of DnL. Only recently have I seen you named.(Last 3 months) But you have been named. I'm sure someone else could quote me.(At least I hope!) LOL...
I know you were being sarcastic. And I was too . Yeah I know perfectly "well-intentioned" people really like me on official boards.
@thePREdiger: I suppose you know who's who on this picture. Just to confirm I was none of the booth babes.
Funny thinking that i would have almost been payed for a trip to the E3 by NPCube, even more that i now am permanently banned from the dnl forums for criticising.
I am shocked that I too, being with AD for some time and having had contact to the Devs like the others from the SoF Council, have been fooled for so long
Even more seeing how they treat former employees like crap and dont give a crap for intelectual property rights etc.
If you need any help with anything Pix, feel free to ask. Anything I can do to warn unsuspecting users from buying even a towel from NPCube, I will. They cannot be left to do what they are doing.
Well, its past the 28th, I wonder how _Pix_ is doing ?
This still tears me up so much that there are ppl still out there that do NOT know the truth and still cater to the likes of whatever the hell the Farlan gang wishes to spew out. Dont see the logic in reasoning that since they have lied on just about every other item/subject/promise, why are they NOT lying about ownership in someone elses creation/work. Doesnt make sense.
It is all too clear that the Farlan gang has no sense of business savvy. No sense of marketing. No sense of commonsense in any facet of whatever the hell it is they are trying to do. With such bravado, arrogance and ego leading the way, they believed they were just too smart and the gaming industry just too dumb for it not to fail. Kinda sad too to see them trying to place this game on life support when the flatline has already been achieved.
I teetotally believe in karma. They stole the tech from _Pix_. Wouldnt want to be in their shoes when the karmic backflash comes ripping through.
Carry on _Pix_! Many supporters just here at mmorpg.com are behind you and well wishing you. Keep us updated and let us know from time to time. This is one situation that definitely wont be over till the fat lady sings. Heh, would be pretty neat if the judge behind the bench of justice is fat eh?
Hey Pix! Long time since I been here but wanted to check in on just this topic and get the latest. Have seen the thread as well as some others around the web. I think its finally getting through that Farlan are just trash. Trash people. Trash company. And trying to trash the gaming industry itself.
Luck to you Pix. Will wait patiently for any updates you may have. Dont give up the fight! Farlan deserves the be dug in the ground.
Originally posted by Cholayna Well, its past the 28th, I wonder how _Pix_ is doing ?
Yes, deadline is over. The 28th of August, an "strange" thing happened: my former partner (1997-2002) on CPU Software "reappeared" magically on French boards (JoL DnL). He's recently created a website dedicated to his views of his past collaboration with me. You may read, for instance that he was the one to have the "idea" of developing a particular procedural terrain technology, only he was not a developer anymore at the time (even if he was one when at Infogrames with me in 1990, but he dropped programming quite rapidly after quitting), and he " had" in a way to convince me (hard) that his idea was worth a go.(!)
Whole site is all asserting non-sense and extremely slanderous.
Here's the story briefly:
I 've already won a case against him end 2003, because he owed money to CPUSoftware (and as I said already cheated with the accounts in "omitting" to pay for his social contributions, etc.). This trial was not over "to whom" the technology belonged, but my former partner's defence was to say I was being in unfair competition with him and EMG, the company he ran at the time (company which went bankrupt and closed beg 2003). EMG was making use of V-world technology for the development of some of its titles, among which Eingana ("the entire Earth on two CD-ROMs!"...) . EMG had decided to call the game engine behind Eingana SCAPER and started to claim it was a technology. My former partner even tried to patent SCAPER as an in-house EMG technology, but failed since EMG was not the inventor of the technology behind it.
So in the judgement there was made a clear mention of V-world technology (now VWorldTerrain) being CPUSoftware's property, CPUSoftware being the company I was running prior to VWORLD. My former partner sold his shares on CPUSoftware end 2002. But as it was a company in general partnership, I had to dissolve it (2003) and the rights to the technology were transferred to me. In April 2004 I formed VWORLD, LLC with 2 other partners. I kept VWorldTerrain's property.
The tricky part is that Farlan/NPCube refused to acknowledge that they were using V-world for the terrain part of Mafate engine (rings a bell? ), as long as the trial with my former partner was not over, since they claimed they feared the bad publicity it might bring. I won. They communicated on V-world, but for only a few weeks.
And guess who now reappears on the 28th...? Well I made a new update on www.pourieux.com (including copies the official judgement and V-world ownership title). I am now wondering what/who will now show up to try to cloud the issue.
Originally posted by _Pix_ Originally posted by Cholayna Well, its past the 28th, I wonder how _Pix_ is doing ?
Yes, deadline is over. The 28th of August, an "strange" thing happened: my former partner (1997-2002) on CPU Software "reappeared" magically on French boards (JoL DnL). He's recently created a website dedicated to his views of his past collaboration with me. You may read, for instance that he was the one to have the "idea" of developing a particular procedural terrain technology, only he was not a developer anymore at the time (even if he was one when at Infogrames with me in 1990, but he dropped programming quite rapidly after quitting), and he " had" in a way to convince me (hard) that his idea was worth a go.(!)
Whole site is all asserting non-sense and extremely slanderous.
Here's the story briefly:
I 've already won a case against him end 2003, because he owed money to CPUSoftware (and as I said already cheated with the accounts in "omitting" to pay for his social contributions, etc.). This trial was not over "to whom" the technology belonged, but my former partner's defence was to say I was being in unfair competition with him and EMG, the company he ran at the time (company which went bankrupt and closed beg 2003). EMG was making use of V-world technology for the development of some of its titles, among which Eingana ("the entire Earth on two CD-ROMs!"...) . EMG had decided to call the game engine behind Eingana SCAPER and started to claim it was a technology. My former partner even tried to patent SCAPER as an in-house EMG technology, but failed since EMG was not the inventor of the technology behind it.
So in the judgement there was made a clear mention of V-world technology (now VWorldTerrain) being CPUSoftware's property, CPUSoftware being the company I was running prior to VWORLD. My former partner sold his shares on CPUSoftware end 2002. But as it was a company in general partnership, I had to dissolve it (2003) and the rights to the technology were transferred to me. In April 2004 I formed VWORLD, LLC with 2 other partners. I kept VWorldTerrain's property.
The tricky part is that Farlan/NPCube refused to acknowledge that they were using V-world for the terrain part of Mafate engine (rings a bell? ), as long as the trial with my former partner was not over, since they claimed they feared the bad publicity it might bring. I won. They communicated on V-world, but for only a few weeks.
And guess who now reappears on the 28th...? Well I made a new update on www.pourieux.com (including copies the official judgement and V-world ownership title). I am now wondering what/who will now show up to try to cloud the issue.
You know what blows my mind _Pix_! is that while your wasting time with this shit, your next project is being neglected. I assume that you heve a next project. It sounds like everyone that is associated with D&L is still taking their shots at you. Purely outta spite it seems...
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Originally posted by Cholayna I would hardly call trying to keep the rights to his own creation and outta the hands of the slimebags called Farlan "wasting time with this shit". I would hardly think that the guy is also not neglecting his product (which is quite evident if you bothered to take a look at his site btw) Keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.Better yet, go make those comments back on DNL. This forum seems to be a bit too over your head.
Hahaha! Very clever! I was mearly pointing out that _Pix_ shouldn't have to be going through all this crap. It sounds to me like everything should be over and _Pix_ shouldn't have to worry about it anymore but a group of bitter people(Farlan and/or former partner) are keeping this issue going. And if he has to pay attention to it then he can't give his next project the "100%" it deserves. My response that you are attacking clearly stated that in fewer words. I'm sometimes a little blunt, so my simple statement may have confused you. Perhaps you should learn how to read.
Forgive me for feeling sympathic towards _Pix_'s cause. I noticed that I responded to his update. An update that you asked for I might add. Yet you came on here and instead of responding to this topic that you're apparently so interested in, you attack my comment. How very civilized of you. Maybe I'm not on top of this story the way you are because I don't have the time but I would think that my "peanut gallery" comments wouldn't draw such negitive bs. But then, someone highbrowed and sophisticated like you is always full of bs. I suggest you keep your "rude" comments to yourself.
Have a nice day.
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At the risk of being attacked by the social elites of mmorpg.com again I would like to thank you _Pix_ for the update. And please, keep the info coming.
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I wonder the motivations for Pix to be involved with NP3/farlan in the first time? Lessons there for all to avoid bad businessmen and how to recognise beneath if things seem good.
I hope Pix has learned how to protect his IP from abuse fromwhn this started/ Probably made you stronger. Go to uni and study IP law? WIPO do a good intro for those that are interested ;-)
The world in DnL is very pretty any game with good developers with such tech in future will be good. Soon!! If not dnL, then something else, but what is Stargate World going to be? is Vworld in that too?
A very cloudy situation in the courts. Soon law will resolve to some solution and all will move on.
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This one seems to have had its facts straightened out:
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,78701/
Developer BIO
Vincent Pourieux started as a programmer at Infogrames in 1988. After having successfully contributed to the development of a dozen products, including blockbusters such as Asterix and Obelix, The Smurfs, Tintin…, he reached the position of consoles department Team Manager.
In 1997, he founded CPU Software development studio, dedicated specifically to R&D research. He laid the foundations of V-world real-time 3D terrain rendering technology, later rebranded VWorldTerrain.
In 1999 he co-founded EMG and carried out the development of several games titles, such as Speed Demons, Nike The Mission and the Eingana edutaimnent software.
In 2002, Vincent co-founded NP Cube and, as R&D Manager until August 2004, adapted VWorldTerrain technology to the needs of the client part of the Dark and Light MMORPG. Some issues about this project can be read in the description of the Mafate engine.
In April 2004 he formed VWORLD, LLC to succeed to CPU Software. He currently occupies the position of CEO at VWORLD, company in charge of constantly bringing new enhancements to VWorldTerrain technology and exploiting its related proprietary rights.
Yes, indeed. Anyway it continues to link to the Mafate Engine, thanks to the only sentence left from the Belgium contributor description (Sciere): "Some issues about this project can be read in the description of the Mafate engine."
(just note that it had shifted from "this issue" to "some issues").
Interesting to note Sciere brought a lot of information about DnL, on August 15th
for example, the game: (even named in Chinese and in simpified Chinese)
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/dark-and-light
Press releases:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dark-and-light/adblurbs
Companies: (SnailGame, NPCube and Farlan)
http://www.mobygames.com/stats/new_companies/offset,15/so,2d/
3D Engine: (Mafate, but no technical description of this game engine)
http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/3d-engine-mafate
And developers bio: (mine).
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/bio/developerId,78701/
However it seems there is some lack of info on some of the other developers, since there is no bio of C.Jacquet, S.Quilichini and G.Zedde. Maybe it's because it is the first game they contributed to.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
I've been banned 7 times from the DnL forums and had my IP addresses locked out.(Don't ask me why I keep going back...DnL is like watching a train wreck in progress, I just can't take my eyes off it.) But at least 2 times it was a subject such as this one. I couldn't tell you offhand.
What I find all very interesting is that if Farlan had feelers out in the forums...such as the bots, didn't they see the way the community is sliding downhill in a hurry? I mean, what is their true motivation if this is the case?
Could the rumors to the effect that they are just trying to grab as much cash as they can before the shit hits the fan be true??? But then, why the 3 free months?
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
Easy. People have to buy the game to get the 3 months "free". That gives them 3 months to collect as much cash from game sales as possible and then simply disappear.
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
As Zorvan said, people who want to play DnL have to buy it, even if it's free for 3 months till November. And then Farlan/NPCube will maybe offer others packs, such as Reconquest Premium Pack, including a flying pink Dodo and a Collector Badge of the land of Ganareth they will send... soon (but easier to do than a Pioneer map, isn't it?) And for all the new subscribers, they will certainly offer a new monthly payment system, including a new exclusive canceling process called "etc" (Easy To Cancel): the user will have to send an e-mail to CB and then to AD 3 months later and finally will need writing his bank to cancel his subsciption and then call the Rangers and...etc,etc etc.... (well... a cancel button is too hard to develop, you know, etc system is the future and is cost-effective).
Sorry for this bad joke, but I couldn't resist.
Anyway, they will do all they can to make DnL survive because of Snailgame. According to the French forums, apparently they plan to release the Chinese version of DnL by mid 2007. If DnL dies, Snailgame will no doubt be very unhappy with this. Imagine: would you be satisfied of having put 40 people working hard on your game project if this project has already experienced total failure in his western version ...
Another reason to me is that they want to resell "their" game engine. They already had some articles alluding to the fact that they wanted to work with the instutional sector (like the University of Reunion Island), and of course they know which branches of industry VWorldTerrain is targeting.(BTW, VWorldTerrain was used in a French Atomic Energy Commission project years before NPCube was formed). Besides they are working with BW, wich is also present in these sectors...We failed in video game industry? Well let's see if we could try serious games and the institutionnal sector. But maybe I'm wrong: they just want to finish DnL.(no pun intended)
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
Easy. People have to buy the game to get the 3 months "free". That gives them 3 months to collect as much cash from game sales as possible and then simply disappear.
Heh they are using the basic thing humans fall for: FREE. People tend to forget that nothing is free on this world and the customer will always be paying to get something free.
But besides that i cant understand people who are still givng their creditcard number to companies like that. Dont they do some research before buying a product. I wanted DnL to go live. I wanted to play DnL because of all the promises they made. But seeying all the crap that happened in the few months before it went live i rather give my creditcard number to the junks in the street then that company. At least the junks will tell you they abuse it, that company will grin in your face......i hate dishonesty, i hate lying.
As Zorvan said, people who want to play DnL have to buy it, even if it's free for 3 months till November. And then Farlan/NPCube will maybe offer others packs, such as Reconquest Premium Pack, including a flying pink Dodo and a Collector Badge of the land of Ganareth they will send... soon (but easier to do than a Pioneer map, isn't it?) And for all the new subscribers, they will certainly offer a new monthly payment system, including a new exclusive canceling process called "etc" (Easy To Cancel): the user will have to send an e-mail to CB and then to AD 3 months later and finally will need writing his bank to cancel his subsciption and then call the Rangers and...etc,etc etc.... (well... a cancel button is too hard to develop, you know, etc system is the future and is cost-effective).
Sorry for this bad joke, but I couldn't resist.
Anyway, they will do all they can to make DnL survive because of Snailgame. According to the French forums, apparently they plan to release the Chinese version of DnL by mid 2007. If DnL dies, Snailgame will no doubt be very unhappy with this. Imagine: would you be satisfied of having put 40 people working hard on your game project if this project has already experienced total failure in his western version ...
Another reason to me is that they want to resell "their" game engine. They already had some articles alluding to the fact that they wanted to work with the instutional sector (like the University of Reunion Island), and of course they know which branches of industry VWorldTerrain is targeting.(BTW, VWorldTerrain was used in a French Atomic Energy Commission project years before NPCube was formed). Besides they are working with BW, wich is also present in these sectors...We failed in video game industry? Well let's see if we could try serious games and the institutionnal sector. But maybe I'm wrong: they just want to finish DnL.(no pun intended)
1) the cancel subscribtion button in DnL will after pressing say: Thank you for adding a new subscribtion to DnL.
2) Did i read that right? "French atomic energy" We better find a new solar system before they are getting involved in that sort of stuff.
Wow -Pix_!!! If I knew you had such a good sense of humor I would've contacted you long ago. You're not the arrogant, self rightious, dildodong that the fanbois of DnL have you pegged to be! I am of course assuming that you are the real -Pix_ . It would be very pointless for someone to pretend to be Pix since that would be such a tiny little tingling of the nut sac that to do so would be pointless.
And I am, of course, being completely serious.
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Hello tepthtanis,
Yes, I am definitely the real _Pix_ and I'm giving you a good tip to check: If one day you read a post from me saying NPCube/Farlan are cutting-edge techology companies (as I've just read from the CEO of SnailGame), this would be for 2 possible reasons only:
- somebody put me under (pretty harsh) crack
OR/AND
- it wasn't me writting this post and I'm probably dead by now.
In both cases, DnL fanbois will be told to say RIPPix. Alas for them, that day hasn't come yet.
Fanbois said I was an arrogant and self-righteous kind of person? So strange... they are not supposed to know me since I never made any interview with them, never met them. The only people I discussed with from the DnL community were people from SoF at E3, and I cannot consider them as fanbois anyway. Only cesar, Vuuar or Zedux were in charge of meeting their future customers and had a chance to discuss with fanbois (in what they call IRLs). Maybe one or two well-intentionned someones gave me a bad rep. Interesting, very new concept! LOL
No, it's not only a flight sim
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Frankly I hope we will definitely meet one day. I know you've been supporting Dark and Light just as I have at the beginning. Prety sure you're quite disappointed bordering disgusted just as I am, and I must say I feel very sorry for that. For the record BTW, yes, I met with SoF guys at E3, not 2003, but 2004.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
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I was being sarcastic _Pix_. Covering my ass if you will.
You are wrong though. I've seen Ztyx mention you in a thread himself. And of course he didn't have anything nice to say about you. I've known about you since january. I just didn't know your name. Perhaps people didn't come out and say "Pix is the root of all our problems!" But many, if not all at that time knew that the head dev of DnL left. And more recently you've been blamed for the downfall of DnL. Only recently have I seen you named.(Last 3 months) But you have been named. I'm sure someone else could quote me.(At least I hope!) LOL...
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I know you were being sarcastic. And I was too
. Yeah I know perfectly "well-intentioned" people really like me on official boards.
@thePREdiger: I suppose you know who's who on this picture. Just to confirm I was none of the booth babes.
No, it's not only a flight sim
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Funny thinking that i would have almost been payed for a trip to the E3 by NPCube, even more that i now am permanently banned from the dnl forums for criticising.
I am shocked that I too, being with AD for some time and having had contact to the Devs like the others from the SoF Council, have been fooled for so long
Even more seeing how they treat former employees like crap and dont give a crap for intelectual property rights etc.
If you need any help with anything Pix, feel free to ask. Anything I can do to warn unsuspecting users from buying even a towel from NPCube, I will. They cannot be left to do what they are doing.
Well, its past the 28th, I wonder how _Pix_ is doing ?
This still tears me up so much that there are ppl still out there that do NOT know the truth and still cater to the likes of whatever the hell the Farlan gang wishes to spew out. Dont see the logic in reasoning that since they have lied on just about every other item/subject/promise, why are they NOT lying about ownership in someone elses creation/work. Doesnt make sense.
It is all too clear that the Farlan gang has no sense of business savvy. No sense of marketing. No sense of commonsense in any facet of whatever the hell it is they are trying to do. With such bravado, arrogance and ego leading the way, they believed they were just too smart and the gaming industry just too dumb for it not to fail. Kinda sad too to see them trying to place this game on life support when the flatline has already been achieved.
I teetotally believe in karma. They stole the tech from _Pix_. Wouldnt want to be in their shoes when the karmic backflash comes ripping through.
Carry on _Pix_! Many supporters just here at mmorpg.com are behind you and well wishing you. Keep us updated and let us know from time to time. This is one situation that definitely wont be over till the fat lady sings. Heh, would be pretty neat if the judge behind the bench of justice is fat eh?
Hey Pix! Long time since I been here but wanted to check in on just this topic and get the latest. Have seen the thread as well as some others around the web. I think its finally getting through that Farlan are just trash. Trash people. Trash company. And trying to trash the gaming industry itself.
Luck to you Pix. Will wait patiently for any updates you may have. Dont give up the fight! Farlan deserves the be dug in the ground.
Yes, deadline is over. The 28th of August, an "strange" thing happened: my former partner (1997-2002) on CPU Software "reappeared" magically on French boards (JoL DnL). He's recently created a website dedicated to his views of his past collaboration with me. You may read, for instance that he was the one to have the "idea" of developing a particular procedural terrain technology, only he was not a developer anymore at the time (even if he was one when at Infogrames with me in 1990, but he dropped programming quite rapidly after quitting), and he " had" in a way to convince me (hard) that his idea was worth a go.(!)
Whole site is all asserting non-sense and extremely slanderous.
Here's the story briefly:
I 've already won a case against him end 2003, because he owed money to CPUSoftware (and as I said already cheated with the accounts in "omitting" to pay for his social contributions, etc.). This trial was not over "to whom" the technology belonged, but my former partner's defence was to say I was being in unfair competition with him and EMG, the company he ran at the time (company which went bankrupt and closed beg 2003). EMG was making use of V-world technology for the development of some of its titles, among which Eingana ("the entire Earth on two CD-ROMs!"...) . EMG had decided to call the game engine behind Eingana SCAPER and started to claim it was a technology. My former partner even tried to patent SCAPER as an in-house EMG technology, but failed since EMG was not the inventor of the technology behind it.
So in the judgement there was made a clear mention of V-world technology (now VWorldTerrain) being CPUSoftware's property, CPUSoftware being the company I was running prior to VWORLD. My former partner sold his shares on CPUSoftware end 2002. But as it was a company in general partnership, I had to dissolve it (2003) and the rights to the technology were transferred to me. In April 2004 I formed VWORLD, LLC with 2 other partners. I kept VWorldTerrain's property.
The tricky part is that Farlan/NPCube refused to acknowledge that they were using V-world for the terrain part of Mafate engine (rings a bell? ), as long as the trial with my former partner was not over, since they claimed they feared the bad publicity it might bring. I won. They communicated on V-world, but for only a few weeks.
And guess who now reappears on the 28th...? Well I made a new update on www.pourieux.com (including copies the official judgement and V-world ownership title). I am now wondering what/who will now show up to try to cloud the issue.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
Yes, deadline is over. The 28th of August, an "strange" thing happened: my former partner (1997-2002) on CPU Software "reappeared" magically on French boards (JoL DnL). He's recently created a website dedicated to his views of his past collaboration with me. You may read, for instance that he was the one to have the "idea" of developing a particular procedural terrain technology, only he was not a developer anymore at the time (even if he was one when at Infogrames with me in 1990, but he dropped programming quite rapidly after quitting), and he " had" in a way to convince me (hard) that his idea was worth a go.(!)
Whole site is all asserting non-sense and extremely slanderous.
Here's the story briefly:
I 've already won a case against him end 2003, because he owed money to CPUSoftware (and as I said already cheated with the accounts in "omitting" to pay for his social contributions, etc.). This trial was not over "to whom" the technology belonged, but my former partner's defence was to say I was being in unfair competition with him and EMG, the company he ran at the time (company which went bankrupt and closed beg 2003). EMG was making use of V-world technology for the development of some of its titles, among which Eingana ("the entire Earth on two CD-ROMs!"...) . EMG had decided to call the game engine behind Eingana SCAPER and started to claim it was a technology. My former partner even tried to patent SCAPER as an in-house EMG technology, but failed since EMG was not the inventor of the technology behind it.
So in the judgement there was made a clear mention of V-world technology (now VWorldTerrain) being CPUSoftware's property, CPUSoftware being the company I was running prior to VWORLD. My former partner sold his shares on CPUSoftware end 2002. But as it was a company in general partnership, I had to dissolve it (2003) and the rights to the technology were transferred to me. In April 2004 I formed VWORLD, LLC with 2 other partners. I kept VWorldTerrain's property.
The tricky part is that Farlan/NPCube refused to acknowledge that they were using V-world for the terrain part of Mafate engine (rings a bell? ), as long as the trial with my former partner was not over, since they claimed they feared the bad publicity it might bring. I won. They communicated on V-world, but for only a few weeks.
And guess who now reappears on the 28th...? Well I made a new update on www.pourieux.com (including copies the official judgement and V-world ownership title). I am now wondering what/who will now show up to try to cloud the issue.
You know what blows my mind _Pix_! is that while your wasting time with this shit, your next project is being neglected. I assume that you heve a next project. It sounds like everyone that is associated with D&L is still taking their shots at you. Purely outta spite it seems...
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I would hardly call trying to keep the rights to his own creation and outta the hands of the slimebags called Farlan "wasting time with this shit".
I would hardly think that the guy is also not neglecting his product (which is quite evident if you bothered to take a look at his site btw)
Keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.Better yet, go make those comments back on DNL. This forum seems to be a bit too over your head.
Hahaha! Very clever! I was mearly pointing out that _Pix_ shouldn't have to be going through all this crap. It sounds to me like everything should be over and _Pix_ shouldn't have to worry about it anymore but a group of bitter people(Farlan and/or former partner) are keeping this issue going. And if he has to pay attention to it then he can't give his next project the "100%" it deserves. My response that you are attacking clearly stated that in fewer words. I'm sometimes a little blunt, so my simple statement may have confused you. Perhaps you should learn how to read.
Forgive me for feeling sympathic towards _Pix_'s cause. I noticed that I responded to his update. An update that you asked for I might add. Yet you came on here and instead of responding to this topic that you're apparently so interested in, you attack my comment. How very civilized of you. Maybe I'm not on top of this story the way you are because I don't have the time but I would think that my "peanut gallery" comments wouldn't draw such negitive bs. But then, someone highbrowed and sophisticated like you is always full of bs. I suggest you keep your "rude" comments to yourself.
Have a nice day.
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At the risk of being attacked by the social elites of mmorpg.com again I would like to thank you _Pix_ for the update. And please, keep the info coming.
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See the latest update in our news section http://www.vworldterrain.com/Gb/GB.htm
No, it's not only a flight sim
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I wonder the motivations for Pix to be involved with NP3/farlan in the first time? Lessons there for all to avoid bad businessmen and how to recognise beneath if things seem good.
I hope Pix has learned how to protect his IP from abuse fromwhn this started/ Probably made you stronger. Go
to uni and study IP law? WIPO do a good intro for those that are
interested ;-)
The world in DnL is very pretty any game with good developers with such tech in future will be good. Soon!! If not dnL, then something else, but what is Stargate World going to be? is Vworld in that too?
A very cloudy situation in the courts. Soon law will resolve to some solution and all will move on.