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I got a reply from Administrator in the official forums of the game :


"Now, it would be completely unrealistic to devote a huge amount of time and resources to regulate thousands of users and what they say when they are online. Now, harassment is another situation that will not be tolerated but there are certain things that make up harassment and saying 'omg i r0x' while playing is not something that is going to be regulated even though it is not within theme.
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  • Vertex1980Vertex1980 Member Posts: 951


    Originally posted by gurthgor

    I got a reply from Administrator in the official forums of the game :

    "Now, it would be completely unrealistic to devote a huge amount of time and resources to regulate thousands of users and what they say when they are online. Now, harassment is another situation that will not be tolerated but there are certain things that make up harassment and saying 'omg i r0x' while playing is not something that is going to be regulated even though it is not within theme.
    __________________
    Justin 'Asomadus' Dunsworth
    Funcom Forum Administrator"


    So what?  It's like this everywhere?  Don't like it?  Don't play on-line games... ever.

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  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857

    What the hell does being a carebear have to do with shoddy internet language? In fact, it much more often comes from PKers and griefers.

    Besides, as Vertex says, your asking for this game to do something no company has ever done, then singleing it out as bad because they stated it would take too much effort? Which is a big reason why no one else does it.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391

    Harassment is one thing.



    The guy said on the site it will NEVER EVER be politically correct.


    And he said right there it would be pointless to devote time to what countless people say.



    *Personally I have beliefs that get me banned often becuase people gave up freedom of speech for political correctness which is revolting.

    Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.

  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589

    Every one is a winner in WAR.

    Edit: LOL thought this was the War hammer forums...

  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589

    If your a griefer at heart.. play EVE Online and have fun

    http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-4061498523327993113&q=EVE+online

    Old times

  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360

    I'm confused which part the OP has a problem with. If he is upset that they will not allow him to harass people, that is clearly absurd... But i think he is saying he doesn't want to see OOC chat flying around in spacial... and that, IMO is equally absurd... but I have never been able to understand the desire or motivation to RP anyway.

  • Vertex1980Vertex1980 Member Posts: 951


    Originally posted by Precusor

    If your a griefer at heart.. play EVE Online and have fun
    http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-4061498523327993113&q=EVE+online
    Old times


    It gets good around 4:30 minutes... I'll ******* come to Canda and **** your ass up!  LOL!!!

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  • apocalanceapocalance Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    Originally posted by gurthgor
    I got a reply from Administrator in the official forums of the game :


    "Now, it would be completely unrealistic to devote a huge amount of time and resources to regulate thousands of users and what they say when they are online. Now, harassment is another situation that will not be tolerated but there are certain things that make up harassment and saying 'omg i r0x' while playing is not something that is going to be regulated even though it is not within theme.
    __________________

    Justin 'Asomadus' Dunsworth
    Funcom Forum Administrator"

    I don't really follow what you're saying here. How does this information translate into PvP with no consequences or hardship of any kind?

    so...

  • tepthtanistepthtanis Member Posts: 545
    I don't quite get where your coming from either. Are you saying that the game will be fulla carebears because of this statement or are you saying you want it to be a carebear game but this statement is going to ruin that for you???

    Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857


    Originally posted by tepthtanis
    I don't quite get where your coming from either. Are you saying that the game will be fulla carebears because of this statement or are you saying you want it to be a carebear game but this statement is going to ruin that for you???

    Based on his comment in another thread, hes calling it a game of carebears because he wont be able to verbally harrass someone in game.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043


    Originally posted by Precusor

    If your a griefer at heart.. play EVE Online and have fun
    http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-4061498523327993113&q=EVE+online
    Old times


    omfg that was hilarious!!!!!!! 
  • tepthtanistepthtanis Member Posts: 545



    Originally posted by Aelfinn


    Based on his comment in another thread, hes calling it a game of carebears because he wont be able to verbally harrass someone in game.




    Oh well... Some people simply don't like to be swore at. That isn't in my list of "reasons there are carebears".

    If that's his only "carebear" beef and he's this upset, then he'll never be able to play another MMO without popping a bloodvessel. Maybe someone will start a vulgar online game and he can satisfy his hangup.

    Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  • RadiationStormRadiationStorm Member Posts: 120

    Well, I don't see the problem here either. Asking a game distributor if one is allowed to use foul language is pretty dumb and will get the appropriate and logical response, which is ofcourse 'no'.

    Usually the filters can be switched off anyway and even if they can't, there are enough variables on letters to dodge the filters, this happens every time. So I still don't see the problem here. Pretty useless topic and arguement against the game, thus I'll just use this thread to up my post count so I can edit my reviews again.
  • mockingbyrd2mockingbyrd2 Member Posts: 14

    Edit - I deleted it.

  • Vertex1980Vertex1980 Member Posts: 951


    Originally posted by sposocke
    Well, I don't see the problem here either. Asking a game distributor if one is allowed to use foul language is pretty dumb and will get the appropriate and logical response, which is ofcourse 'no'.

    Usually the filters can be switched off anyway and even if they can't, there are enough variables on letters to dodge the filters, this happens every time. So I still don't see the problem here. Pretty useless topic and arguement against the game, thus I'll just use this thread to up my post count so I can edit my reviews again.



    Well, the game IS RATED 18+, why are people so worried about swearing when the game is made for ADULTS.

    This isn't the soft pillowtop bed all the kiddies have gotten use to (World of Borecraft).

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  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857


    Originally posted by Vertex1980

    Originally posted by sposocke
    Well, I don't see the problem here either. Asking a game distributor if one is allowed to use foul language is pretty dumb and will get the appropriate and logical response, which is ofcourse 'no'.

    Usually the filters can be switched off anyway and even if they can't, there are enough variables on letters to dodge the filters, this happens every time. So I still don't see the problem here. Pretty useless topic and arguement against the game, thus I'll just use this thread to up my post count so I can edit my reviews again.


    Well, the game IS RATED 18+, why are people so worried about swearing when the game is made for ADULTS.

    This isn't the soft pillowtop bed all the kiddies have gotten use to (World of Borecraft).



    The question wasn't of swearing at all or not, that never came up really.  Going off your rocker and insulting the hell out of a person is a lot different than letting out a cuss word or two to express your feelings. Even if there is a filter, its way too easy to get around it anyways. I'd post an example of what I mean, i've seen and reported all too many cases, but im liable to get banned if a mod looks at it the wrong way.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391
    I value freedom of speech more than political correctness, call me old school patriot.

    Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857


    Originally posted by Zerogenum
    I value freedom of speech more than political correctness, call me old school patriot.

    And you will have it, the devs already stated this game will never ever ever be politically correct. You just can't spam the message boards with 50 curse words for every single statement someone else makes.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • gurthgorgurthgor Member Posts: 279

    We could make a movie about some replies for dumb and dumber 3. For those one i hope you enjoy the new Conan Thematic Park that is going to be this game. Youu can take your kids there so that they enjoy the marvellous adventures of Conan without worrying about their virgin ears. A political correct world about barbarians! Enjoy it! ;)

    Blade with whom i have lived, blade with whom I now die. Serve right and justice one last time. Seek one last heart of evil. Still one last life of pain. Cut well old friend. Then farewell!

  • IcoGamesIcoGames Member Posts: 2,360

    Call me crazy and all, but ... I think there's a difference between using obscene language and harassment. For example, I kill you and leave your rotting corpse with a few choice words, versus following you around constantly spouting off rants.

    Now if all you can do is verbally abuse someone, then I think you're the carebear.

    Ico
    Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.

  • gurthgorgurthgor Member Posts: 279


    Originally posted by IcoGames
    Call me crazy and all, but ... I think there's a difference between using obscene language and harassment. For example, I kill you and leave your rotting corpse with a few choice words, versus following you around constantly spouting off rants. Now if all you can do is verbally abuse someone, then I think you're the carebear.

    Who said i want to make harassment? I just want freedom. I want to find all kind of ppl in game, evil, chaotic, good, ass and nice ppl, so just freedom. I am fed up of an army of clones that cant behave in other way but what the codes of conduct of game says. Personally i never talk with slang, maybe some swearing some time and i generally dont start a fight but i end it.

    Blade with whom i have lived, blade with whom I now die. Serve right and justice one last time. Seek one last heart of evil. Still one last life of pain. Cut well old friend. Then farewell!

  • IcoGamesIcoGames Member Posts: 2,360


    Originally posted by gurthgor
    Who said i want to make harassment? I just want freedom. I want to find all kind of ppl in game, evil, chaotic, good, ass and nice ppl, so just freedom. I am fed up of an army of clones that cant behave in other way but what the codes of conduct of game says. Personally i never talk with slang, maybe some swearing some time and i generally dont start a fight but i end it.



    "Now, it would be completely unrealistic to devote a huge amount of time and resources to regulate thousands of users and what they say when they are online. Now, harassment is another situation that will not be tolerated but there are certain things that make up harassment and saying 'omg i r0x' while playing is not something that is going to be regulated even though it is not within theme.
    __________________

    Justin 'Asomadus' Dunsworth
    Funcom Forum Administrator"



    I interpret Justin's quote as stating that players won't be censored based on what they say, but on harassing other players. If, by your quote, you don't want to harass anyone, then what's your issue with Justin's response?

    Ico
    Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.

  • gurthgorgurthgor Member Posts: 279


    Originally posted by IcoGames
    Originally posted by gurthgor
    Who said i want to make harassment? I just want freedom. I want to find all kind of ppl in game, evil, chaotic, good, ass and nice ppl, so just freedom. I am fed up of an army of clones that cant behave in other way but what the codes of conduct of game says. Personally i never talk with slang, maybe some swearing some time and i generally dont start a fight but i end it.
    "Now, it would be completely unrealistic to devote a huge amount of time and resources to regulate thousands of users and what they say when they are online. Now, harassment is another situation that will not be tolerated but there are certain things that make up harassment and saying 'omg i r0x' while playing is not something that is going to be regulated even though it is not within theme.
    __________________Justin 'Asomadus' Dunsworth
    Funcom Forum Administrator"
    I interpret Justin's quote as stating that players won't be censored based on what they say, but on harassing other players. If, by your quote, you don't want to harass anyone, then what's your issue with Justin's response?

    That even i dont harass i want it to be allowed. If someone harass to me i just will reply back and kill him or flee if i am not strong enough. I dont care someone harass or not, each person is different and i like that. That is part of life that some ppl try to make you angry all the time, they try to provoke you and start a fight maybe. Not allowing that is not allowing roleplaying completely, simply cause you cant roleplay all kind of personalities ppl have. Some say that is not roleplaying, for them rp is just use some certain roles but not all, and that doesnt make sense.

    Blade with whom i have lived, blade with whom I now die. Serve right and justice one last time. Seek one last heart of evil. Still one last life of pain. Cut well old friend. Then farewell!

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857


    Originally posted by gurthgor



    That even i dont harass i want it to be allowed. If someone harass to me i just will reply back and kill him or flee if i am not strong enough. I dont care someone harass or not, each person is different and i like that. That is part of life that some ppl try to make you angry all the time, they try to provoke you and start a fight maybe. Not allowing that is not allowing roleplaying completely, simply cause you cant roleplay all kind of personalities ppl have. Some say that is not roleplaying, for them rp is just use some certain roles but not all, and that doesnt make sense.


    I hate to be the one to break it to you, but no game, ever, in MMORPG history willingly allowed harrasment of any kind (cases where rules were unenforcable discounted). This game is the closest the industry has come to that point, and I would be extremely surprised if anyone goes any further for years.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • gurthgorgurthgor Member Posts: 279

    I was almost sure that AoC wouldnt allow complete freedom. I would have to be very naive for that, but i had a small hope when i saw it was going to be rated as mature game. What it is true is that it will be the closest to what i want probably, anyway i am afraid it ends being completely censored to say any kind of insult or swearing.

    Blade with whom i have lived, blade with whom I now die. Serve right and justice one last time. Seek one last heart of evil. Still one last life of pain. Cut well old friend. Then farewell!

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