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Where else to find entertainer content?

BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184

Okay, so I've played SW:G on and off for three years now.  I've quit in frustration three times, and I've only been an active subscriber for 18 months out of the 36 months since I bought the game.  I'm not one of the many players with the 'battered wife syndrome' - I know that in general the game sucks; I know that the developers are incompetent; I know we're extremely unlikely to see the game meet its potential, especially since NGE; and I would leave at the drop of a hat if I could find a game that had half the entertainer content that SWG has.

As a dedicated musician in SWG I have at my disposal nearly 20,000 combinations of flourishes/songs/instruments/effects.  No other game comes close to this amount of content, and many have no musical or dance content whatsoever.  As a player who prefers a social and non-combat game experience all I need from a MMOG is entertainer content or at least a healthy tavern atmosphere with people getting together just for the fun of telling stories or entertaining each other in some way.  So, as a discerning and critical player, it seems to me that SW:G, although horribly flawed, is the only place for me to get what I need from a game.

If anyone can direct me to a game that has some musical content or a healthy and fulfilling tavern experience please do so in this thread, as I desperately want to get away from the abortion that SW:G has become, but I just don't see a real alternative.

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  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924


    Originally posted by Beery

    Okay, so I've played SW:G on and off for three years now.  I've quit in frustration three times, and I've only been an active subscriber for 18 months out of the 36 months since I bought the game.  I'm not one of the many players with the 'battered wife syndrome' - I know that in general the game sucks; I know that the developers are incompetent; I know we're extremely unlikely to see the game meet its potential, especially since NGE; and I would leave at the drop of a hat if I could find a game that had half the entertainer content that SWG has.
    As a dedicated musician in SWG I have at my disposal nearly 20,000 combinations of flourishes/songs/instruments/effects.  No other game comes close to this amount of content, and many have no musical or dance content whatsoever.  As a player who prefers a social and non-combat game experience all I need from a MMOG is entertainer content or at least a healthy tavern atmosphere with people getting together just for the fun of telling stories or entertaining each other in some way.  So, as a discerning and critical player, it seems to me that SW:G, although horribly flawed, is the only place for me to get what I need from a game.
    If anyone can direct me to a game that has some musical content or a healthy and fulfilling tavern experience please do so in this thread, as I desperately want to get away from the abortion that SW:G has become, but I just don't see a real alternative.


    I call it going out with friends.  The game is called real life.  Its free to play.  J/K

    You mean you want a sandbox game? I heard DDO might add in bard at some point but haven't heard anything about it since it was in beta that overwhelmingly positive.

  • drewdowndrewdown Member UncommonPosts: 65
    Go try Roma-Victor.

    It will have everything you need.    












    Sometime.


  • BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184


    Originally posted by Rabia


    I have a wife and kid.  I find your post insulting and needlessly coarse.
  • BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184


    Originally posted by haxxjoo

    I call it going out with friends.  The game is called real life.  Its free to play.  J/K



    Okay, just kidding.  But why is it only entertainer players get these sorts of jokes?  I have a real life.  When I go online I'd like to enjoy the same social activities that other MMOG players enjoy.

    If players can't keep from insulting me or my in-game profession (even in joke) I wish they would just stay away.

  • PyscoJuggaloPyscoJuggalo Member UncommonPosts: 1,114
    I can understand why Entertainers can't leave SWG...

    And it pisses me off more at SOE/LA

    Unfortunately, SWG has the only entertainer content in town.  Too bad SWG does not want the fanbase that would appreciate that content.

    There is a very slim chance that an independant MMORPG based outta Illinois might make it to live and it would have entertainer content.  But it is a very slim hope...


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  • wolfmannwolfmann Member Posts: 1,159

    I've seen more entertainers leave this game than I've seen "entertainers" in other games.

    You know, the whole RP entertainer community in AO, wich was huge at the time, left AO to play SWG. Hundreds of players, just because SWG offered a cantina gameplay.

    None of those players are in SWG any more. Most went back to AO to RP entertainers again, because at least in AO, the rest of the players aprechiated their way of play.

    Heck, I just need to go into MXO, and I'll find more people at a party than I find players in Eisley....

    SOE killed the pooch Beery. No other games offer what SWG does, but SOE doesn't want you and the non combat players any more, nor does the NGE players want you.

    It's a dark future for non "whack-a-mole" players.

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  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883

    I really don't think there is any game out there that is going to meet the same abilities and tools an Entertainer has at their disposal in SWG. It is one of the unique qualities of SWG that has yet to be brought out by any other mmorpg. I have just recently begun playing again, and I am enjoying it. And slowly, people are coming to see for themselves what SWG has to offer and some are staying, hoping as I am that SOE can turn things around. They are slowly getting there, we'll just have to see what happens.

  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252
    Given the amount of scenes in Star Trek TNG that had Entertainer components in it, perhaps Star Trek Online will create a way to gather in Ten Forward and play the trumpet like Riker or something?

    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • ChastityChastity Member Posts: 45

    Second Life has a very healthy nightclub scene that you might enjoy.  If all the sex bothers you, though, don't mess with it.  The game is VERY adult oriented.  But, a basic account is also free.

    It's the ultimate in sandbox play.  The game is just a platform with almost all the content generated by players, so people design clothes, party, very much like the social players did in SWG.

  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252


    Originally posted by Chastity

    Second Life has a very healthy nightclub scene that you might enjoy.  If all the sex bothers you, though, don't mess with it.  The game is VERY adult oriented.  But, a basic account is also free.


    I would so get into trouble there I think.  I had enough problems with umm.... interaction in SWG.  I almost went from happily married to not.    Sounds like married people should tread carefully there.

    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118
    I have an entertainer friend form SWG who is now playing Second Life, and he says he enjoys it.  I cant seem to even get interested enough to download it and give it a try, so I cant give you any first hand opinions.  He swears its open ended sandbox, with a good deal entertaining possibilities.  I believe its free to get into, so might be worth giving a chance.    Good Luck.... 

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  • ChessackChessack Member Posts: 978
    Sadly, I think that right now, if you want to play an entertainer, there really isn't anything but SWG. And much as I loved being an entertainer in-game... I am not willing to give SOE any more money after all their betrayals.

    But yeah, this has meant I don't get to play an entertainer either.

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  • AthelaAthela Member Posts: 492

    Hi there Beery, welcome to the rip-the-heads-off-chickens show that is the Galaxies part of these forums.

    I haven't seen any hint anywhere of a game with the music and dance and ID options Galaxies has.  It is too bad because it is a ton of fun to be an entertainer in game.  As much as they've taken away any player interdependency type purpose, it is still a hoot. 

    Take someone like myself who can't play a note in the real world.  There I was, Master Musician, playing along in a packed Coronet cantina just wishing they would find a way to make it so everyone didn't have to be playing the same song as the lowest skilled musician in the group.  Who knew that was as good as it would get, and that those were the most glorious times for ents. 

    I remember reading on the Musician forums lots of people saying they were real life musicians, and they loved the game but would really like to be able to actually compose some songs.  I wish that the devs had found a way to allow that.  It could just be a blast to have the ability to buy someone's compositions, or art in game.  Maybe someday, but not in a galaxy far far away, thats for sure.

  • shirlntshirlnt Member UncommonPosts: 351

    I know how you feel Beery.  I find myself looking at the skills/professions list in MMOs hoping to find the ability to be some type of entertainer but haven't found anything so far. If only SOE had realized what it had.

  • drewdowndrewdown Member UncommonPosts: 65
    off the Roma Victor site



    * Player music



    The player music system in Roma Victor is probably the most
    sophisticated player music system in any contemporary virtual world. A
    broad range of authentic ancient musical instruments have been
    painstakingly brought back to life, each with their own unique set of
    notes. Player musicians can learn songs, play together and entertain
    the masses in full 3D sound. No musical knowledge is required to join
    in and the more you play a particular instrument, the better your
    character's skill with it will become, meaning less mistakes and bigger
    tips!


    It isn't implemented yet, but then again not too much is.  I haven't bought the game yet (waiting for some more development) but there is no monthly fee so I may purchase soon and check in from time to time.  Either way, this feature (when it gets implemented)  is about as close as it gets to what you asked for.





  • BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184
    From what I've heard, Roma Victor is a bigger abortion than SWG was.  It's virtually impossible to get non-combat content added post-launch even when a game is fairly complete (and RV is certainly not), so I doubt that Roma Victor will ever get its musical content.
  • drewdowndrewdown Member UncommonPosts: 65
    At this state of the game, I think your concern is entirely valid.  However, the music isn't so much "content" as game mechanics.  It is listed in thier key features, and the dev team has been very forthcoming with information and assurance that everything is gonna make it in.  Also, to me the team just seems very genuine.  I wouldn't say buy if you have any reservations on the game because "anything could happen."  I however am gonna support the team because I like what I see.

    Just my 2 cents.
  • shirlntshirlnt Member UncommonPosts: 351
    Being as several of the pre-CU staff is now supposedly a part of BioWare, can we hope that whatever MMO BioWare is working on will have some pre-CU flavors to it including ents and other needed non-combat professions?
  • drewdowndrewdown Member UncommonPosts: 65
    And hopefully NO Jedi......

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Beery
    From what I've heard, Roma Victor is a bigger abortion than SWG was.


    Oh come on... right to lifers have been picketing the Austin $OE studio since November.

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  • drewdowndrewdown Member UncommonPosts: 65


    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by Beery
    From what I've heard, Roma Victor is a bigger abortion than SWG was.

    Oh come on... right to lifers have been picketing the Austin $OE studio since November.





    Agreed... SOE litteraly scammed us.  You remember, right?  RV doesn't deny what it is or what it isn't.  They are truthful and THANKFULL for their players....   

    what you heard is wrong.  


  • MrArchyMrArchy Member Posts: 643

    you wanna know where to find Ent content?

    go roll a Smuggler.  They've been ignored for even longer......................

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  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666


    Originally posted by drewdown
    off the Roma Victor site



    * Player music



    The player music system in Roma Victor is probably the most
    sophisticated player music system in any contemporary virtual world. A
    broad range of authentic ancient musical instruments have been
    painstakingly brought back to life, each with their own unique set of
    notes. Player musicians can learn songs, play together and entertain
    the masses in full 3D sound. No musical knowledge is required to join
    in and the more you play a particular instrument, the better your
    character's skill with it will become, meaning less mistakes and bigger
    tips!


    It isn't implemented yet, but then again not too much is.  I haven't bought the game yet (waiting for some more development) but there is no monthly fee so I may purchase soon and check in from time to time.  Either way, this feature (when it gets implemented)  is about as close as it gets to what you asked for.







    It hard to believe how hard you try to push for this game, the guy wants entertainer content and your recomending RV? It will be forever before they get around to adding the music system. Avoid Roma Victor at all costs, it is nowhere near what SWG once was. It's just a big sandbox with fugly graphics, maybe it will be a game a year from now if it lasts that long.

    EDIT:  OMG, you haven't even play the game!!! So why promote it the way you do? Unbelievable!
    Seriously, buy the game play it for a few weeks then post how you feel about it, I'll bet you have a whole new outlook on Roma Victor.. And yes I played it for a month (when It would let me log on that is).

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  • almagillalmagill Member Posts: 279


    Originally posted by Athela

    Hi there Beery, welcome to the rip-the-heads-off-chickens show that is the Galaxies part of these forums.
    I haven't seen any hint anywhere of a game with the music and dance and ID options Galaxies has.  It is too bad because it is a ton of fun to be an entertainer in game.  As much as they've taken away any player interdependency type purpose, it is still a hoot. 
    Take someone like myself who can't play a note in the real world.  There I was, Master Musician, playing along in a packed Coronet cantina just wishing they would find a way to make it so everyone didn't have to be playing the same song as the lowest skilled musician in the group.  Who knew that was as good as it would get, and that those were the most glorious times for ents. 
    I remember reading on the Musician forums lots of people saying they were real life musicians, and they loved the game but would really like to be able to actually compose some songs.  I wish that the devs had found a way to allow that.  It could just be a blast to have the ability to buy someone's compositions, or art in game.  Maybe someday, but not in a galaxy far far away, thats for sure.


    Raph had an article on what Entertainer COULD have been in SWG *at launch* had they had more time / budget and there hadn't been issues with both licensing perfomances of copyright material and the fact that even making a virtual recording ina virtual world attracted attention from the Performing Rights folk.

    (Remember folks, next time you feel like cussing at a dev, there's probably a beancounter or a lawyer lurking in the background going "oooh we can't do that! Now pay my bill and I'll tell you some other stuff not to do". GRRR!!)

    And then there was the 'scribe' profession who would have been able to make and sell 'recordings' or 'sheet music'.... 

    oh the chances missed :(

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  • BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184


    Originally posted by MrArchy

    you wanna know where to find Ent content?
    go roll a Smuggler.  They've been ignored for even longer......................


    So your advice is to try a profession that's equally ignored?  What would be the point?   BTW smugglers haven't been ignored longer than entertainers - as long, not longer.
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