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The phrase "toon"


First of all..when did this start ? Everyone calling their ingame characters "toons".  First of all, a toon is  a character in an animated cartoon.  Games are not cartoons. A character in a game is simply called a character, not a toon.   And last of all, does toon sound very childish to you?  It does to me..its something my two year old would call a game character. So this makes me believe that the people that call characters "toons"  are two years old.  Anyone agree with me?


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  • VanillacreamVanillacream Member Posts: 344

    Not again. lol

    TOON TOPIC

    End of topic i guess.

  • locdog420692locdog420692 Member Posts: 41
    Oops, my bad I guess I don't spend my life on these forums to of noticed that old post.  Its nice to see that someone else has already brought up that crap.

  • BballdudeBballdude Member Posts: 34

    if you dont like the term..dont use it...holy crap stop bringing around all these rants to the forums! if you dont like it then STFU im tired of hearing people complain...play the damn game or dont



    I personally call mine toon or character...i only use toon becuase its faster to type that character or avatar..same as U or y for you or why okay! so just shutup and deal with it or stop playing MMOs!

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  • locdog420692locdog420692 Member Posts: 41
    LOL , its people like you that use toon, 2 funny!



    Originally posted by Bballdude

    if you dont like the term..dont use it...holy crap stop bringing around all these rants to the forums! if you dont like it then STFU im tired of hearing people complain...play the damn game or dont


    I personally call mine toon or character...i only use toon becuase its faster to type that character or avatar..same as U or y for you or why okay! so just shutup and deal with it or stop playing MMOs!


  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386


    Originally posted by Vanillacream
    Not again. lol
    TOON TOPIC
    End of topic i guess.

    Ha yeah. I was about to say "didn't I just make this thread a couple weeks ago?"

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    Originally posted by Bballdude
    i only use toon becuase its faster to type that character or avatar

    Do you even play MMOs? I've never seen someone type out "Character" but rather "char" like "my char is lvl 50". I don't know about you, but I read "Char" as "character" just like I read "lvl" as "level"

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  • Vertex1980Vertex1980 Member Posts: 951

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  • Originally posted by locdog420692


    First of all..when did this start ? Everyone calling their ingame characters "toons".  First of all, a toon is  a character in an animated cartoon.  Games are not cartoons. A character in a game is simply called a character, not a toon.   And last of all, does toon sound very childish to you?  It does to me..its something my two year old would call a game character. So this makes me believe that the people that call characters "toons"  are two years old.  Anyone agree with me?




    It is a recent thing. Started maybe the past 5 years. It would seem it started from non-gamers doing reviews of computer games. Since they are not into computer games like gamers, but they write for mass media, they "forced" the term to be used, and to gain some popularity.


    Character or char was the original term. Starting from Pen and Paper, which transferred to computer RPG games, then to MMORPG. After char, there is AVATAR. This gained popularity from the most popular computer game, and most popular computer RPG game ever in history. Lord British used Avatar in Ultima 0 -9, and also in Ultima Online the mmorpg. Avatar originally is an old word describing a special human or "human" that's really a higher level being in disguise. Kind of like God, or the Gods playing his own mmorpg/their own mmorpg, and we are the avatars/characters. Very intresting, eh? And now we use the term to describe our smaller scale version mmorpg on our computers. LOL!

  • InflictionInfliction Member Posts: 1,115


    Originally posted by xplororor

    Originally posted by locdog420692


    First of all..when did this start ? Everyone calling their ingame characters "toons".  First of all, a toon is  a character in an animated cartoon.  Games are not cartoons. A character in a game is simply called a character, not a toon.   And last of all, does toon sound very childish to you?  It does to me..its something my two year old would call a game character. So this makes me believe that the people that call characters "toons"  are two years old.  Anyone agree with me?



    It is a recent thing. Started maybe the past 5 years. It would seem it started from non-gamers doing reviews of computer games. Since they are not into computer games like gamers, but they write for mass media, they "forced" the term to be used, and to gain some popularity.

    Character or char was the original term. Starting from Pen and Paper, which transferred to computer RPG games, then to MMORPG. After char, there is AVATAR. This gained popularity from the most popular computer game, and most popular computer RPG game ever in history. Lord British used Avatar in Ultima 0 -9, and also in Ultima Online the mmorpg. Avatar originally is an old word describing a special human or "human" that's really a higher level being in disguise. Kind of like God, or the Gods playing his own mmorpg/their own mmorpg, and we are the avatars/characters. Very intresting, eh? And now we use the term to describe our smaller scale version mmorpg on our computers. LOL!


    Well, I don't know about any other older MMORPGs, but in The Realm, one of the first, just about everyone called their in-game characters toons. I still do for other games from time to time, as it kinda stuck with me. My guess was it originated there, and some of the other old Realm players took it to other games and it eventually stuck.

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  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984
     Ah yes, it was me and Inky on The Realm that realy started it all on that game. I started using the term Bio-Break there as well. Mind you i usually called it BnB. That didnt seem to go over to well. To be honest alot of add to the dialect we speak on the net. Its strange to see people using a term you came up with so many years ago. Frankly I call my charecters Alias. Especially due to the fact I play so many alts. I got my main, then my alias. So its technically one person acting out many forms. Which is conveint for storyline purposes for games like CoH.

  • KillerVKillerV Member Posts: 76

    Toon is a word, not a phrase ::::02::

    But... it was already used in old games like DAoC. I don't know its origin though. It's not new, that is for sure.

  • mixlespekmixlespek Member Posts: 20
    Nothing wrong with toons :D

  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883

    It is also the popular word used to describe characters in AO. I started using it there and continue to use it in other games I play. So I will have to go with the other responses already made and say get over it. If that's the best thing you could find to bitch about, try going outside once in awhile. There's a million more things worthy of complaining than what someone calls their character in a game::::12::

    edit: spelling

  • Beatnik59Beatnik59 Member UncommonPosts: 2,413

    When you create a character, as opposed to a toon, it seems to me that you as a player are the vehicle to make it live and grow into its world.  It is sort of like imbuing your Gi-Joes with some sort of personality through play.  Cobra Commander may be a 3 1/2" tall hunk of articulated polystyrene, but when we play with him, we treat that figure as more than that.

    The term "character" is used when the speaker wants to indicate that the avatar is a work of fiction, and that the actions it does are for fictional reasons, not actual ones.  When you view avatars as characters, and you say you are a friend to someone in the game, its because your fictional character is a friend to another fictional character.  The people are not friends, but the avatars are.  When a character does something bad to you, the character does bad things because it is acting on the basis of its motives separate from the actual person, and may not be due to any negative feeling toward you as an actual person.

    When you create a "toon," rather than a "character," it seems to me to indicate that its just a means to interface with the game engine, and is undeserving of being imbued with any personality.  For all that Cobra Commander represents on his ID card, Cobra Commander is nothing more than an articulated hunk of polystyrene that is just as fun to blow up with bottle rockets as Snake Eyes, or Gung-Ho.

    Generally in terms of my experience, the term "toon" is used when the speaker wants to give the impression that the avatars have no meaning, and the game is about people sitting at their computers.  When you view avatars as toons, and you say you are a friend to someone in the game, its because you at your computer are a friend to another person at another computer.  The avatars aren't friends.  The people are.  When a toon does something bad to you, the toon does bad things because an actual person hates you as an actual person.

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  • elvigyelvigy Member CommonPosts: 249


    Originally posted by Beatnik59

    When you create a character, as opposed to a toon, it seems to me that you as a player are the vehicle to make it live and grow into its world.  It is sort of like imbuing your Gi-Joes with some sort of personality through play.  Cobra Commander may be a 3 1/2" tall hunk of articulated polystyrene, but when we play with him, we treat that figure as more than that.
    The term "character" is used when the speaker wants to indicate that the avatar is a work of fiction, and that the actions it does are for fictional reasons, not actual ones.  When you view avatars as characters, and you say you are a friend to someone in the game, its because your fictional character is a friend to another fictional character.  The people are not friends, but the avatars are.  When a character does something bad to you, the character does bad things because it is acting on the basis of its motives separate from the actual person, and may not be due to any negative feeling toward you as an actual person.
    When you create a "toon," rather than a "character," it seems to me to indicate that its just a means to interface with the game engine, and is undeserving of being imbued with any personality.  For all that Cobra Commander represents on his ID card, Cobra Commander is nothing more than an articulated hunk of polystyrene that is just as fun to blow up with bottle rockets as Snake Eyes, or Gung-Ho.
    Generally in terms of my experience, the term "toon" is used when the speaker wants to give the impression that the avatars have no meaning, and the game is about people sitting at their computers.  When you view avatars as toons, and you say you are a friend to someone in the game, its because you at your computer are a friend to another person at another computer.  The avatars aren't friends.  The people are.  When a toon does something bad to you, the toon does bad things because an actual person hates you as an actual person.


    I think you're reading waaaay too much into it. I use the terms interchangeably. And quite honestly don't give a hoot what anyone wants to call their char/toon/avatar.
  • Beatnik59Beatnik59 Member UncommonPosts: 2,413


    Originally posted by elvigy

    I think you're reading waaaay too much into it. I use the terms interchangeably. And quite honestly don't give a hoot what anyone wants to call their char/toon/avatar.


    Apparently, you are not alone.  The developer "Helios" from Star Wars Galaxies doesn't see the distinction as important either.

    It makes no sense for a bunch of toons to be sitting around the camp, waiting for something, and telling stories while they wait.  A toon is just a means to interact with the game engine, and a toon that isn't interacting with the game engine has no purpose.

    It makes perfect sense for a bunch of characters to be sitting around the camp, waiting for something, and telling stories while they wait.   A character has an existance of its own unrelated to how it interfaces with the game engine.

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  • paulscottpaulscott Member Posts: 5,613
    i've always thought enders game type thingy.  and if you haven't read it yet go do so.

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  • JennysMindJennysMind Member UncommonPosts: 869

    When I started playing MMO's in AC and AC2, the avatar was always called a toon. I never even used the word "Char" until I started playing WoW. That's because many of the players in the game had no never heard an avatar called a "toon".

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