Vladymir Lenin speaks to his followers in an article.

Zerogenum · September 2006

VLADIMIR, LENIN, Founder of Bolshevik Communist (From an article in Northern Pravda, October-December 1913

"There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times. Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other workers, adding their might to the creation of an international culture of the working class movement, are continuing the best traditions of Jewry."

Was vladymir lenin a smart guy or what?

modjoe86 · September 2006

Are you still not banned?

Zerogenum · September 2006

Did i say something wrong? or offensive? I thought vladymir lenin was an icon for some people? I just thought a few words from him would make some people feel happy and joyful.

Spathotan · September 2006

365 post in 9 days, lolkz.

lardmouth · September 2006

Originally posted by Zerogenum
VLADIMIR, LENIN, Founder of Bolshevik Communist (From an article in Northern Pravda, October-December 1913

"There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times. Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other workers, adding their might to the creation of an international culture of the working class movement, are continuing the best traditions of Jewry."

Was vladymir lenin a smart guy or what?

Smart about what? What point are you trying to make?

kimosabe · September 2006

Either he's hacked, or he's trying to get me to talk to him.

Zerogenum · September 2006

He was smart in that he put in short easy to understand words what he was all about. Smart people are articulate though I contest with the slaughter that he and karl marx wraught when they unleashed communism or marxism or whatever you wanna call it.

shamall · September 2006

368 post already?

I'm sorry but I don't think that it is normal for a person to post that much in the amount of time you have been here. I mean, are you trying to set a record or something? Do you really have nothing better to do but post here? I don't know if you work or go to school or whatever but is it so lax there you can just sit on the forums all day? Now don't get me wrong, you have the right to do whatever the hell you like but I just really want to know. I see the amount of post you make plus the discussions you bring up and it leads me to think that you have "issues" that need to be delt with.

I'm not trying to be an ass or funny or flame in any way, I'm serious...wtf?

//\//\oo · September 2006

Marxism isn't bad by itself; it's the incorrect implementations that call themselves marxist when they are actually more along the lines of facism.

BTW, this obsession with communism can't be healthy: You've been posting incessantly about the same issue; you're just itching to get banned and ignored.

How in the living hell did you get that many posts in less than two weeks?

Go take a healthy vacation and write something constructive and fun. I'm no therapist/physician, but all of that writing on the same topic over such a short period of time can't be good for you physically...

Zerogenum · September 2006

Obsessed with communism yet I have nothing to do with any part of it.

The post count is because i have had a lot of people try and argue, people that deny facts that dont say what they like. So i reply.

Is replying to a question "Not the cool thing for everyone to be doing" if I reply to crap arguements too much?

Nah I think you're just talking smack cuz you cant deal with facts.

Zerogenum · September 2006

Communism has everything to do with the facist policies it dictates Communism is government.

Communism
A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

System of government. Now all these "Communism is economics communism doesnt kill" propaganda lsitings can go away yes?

modjoe86 · September 2006

Originally posted by Zerogenum
Communism has everything to do with the facist policies it dictates Communism is government.

Communism
A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

System of government. Now all these "Communism is economics communism doesnt kill" propaganda lsitings can go away yes?

What's the primary definition that you conveniently omitted?

kimosabe · September 2006

I'm really a fan of you and your handy tidbits of delightful information you smilingly bring to us here at the forums. You find one definition that has "system of government" on it and you jump all over it and try to shove it down people's throats, then make arrogant statements like: Now we can stop fighting cuz I'm right. OK? (I didn't put this one in quotes to make you happy)

Communism
An economic theory which stresses that the control of the means of producing economic goods in a society should reside in the hands of those who invest their labor for production. In its ideal form, social classes cease to exist, there is no coercive governmental structures, and everyone lives in abundance without supervision from a ruling class. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels popularized this theory in their 1848 Communist Manifesto.

An economic system based on the sharing of all work and property by the whole community.

An economic system in which capital is owned by private government. Contrasts with capitalism.

Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization, based upon common ownership of the means of production and the absence of private property.

The fact is, there's many different types of communism, just as there are many different types of christianity. Some I can agree with more, others less. If I'm Lutheran, can you blame me for the Catholic involvement in the Spanish Inquisition? Not that you should blame Catholics for that at all in the first place. You bring up a definition for any of the variants of true Marxism-Leninism communism, and claim it to be true for all different types. Maybe what you're looking at is any of the following offsprings of communism:

How about Maoism, or Trotskyism, Luxemurgism, Soviet (Stalinism - different from Marxism-Leninism), Council Communism, maybe even Christian Communism.

(from the kind of childish claims you've made so far, I'd assume Soviet Communism and Maosim are the only two you've been enlightened on)

"Now all these 'Communism isn't economics; communism kills' propoganda listings [most of them created and hijacked by you yourself] can go away [and take you with it], yes?"

-Edited- Modjoe, when I googled communism, Zero-'s mysterious first definition is either my second or fourth definition in my post.

Zerogenum · September 2006

So its still a system of government in which the state takes everything.

Stop pretending its not.

Communism kills in every nation it comes in without fail.

I have already listed the tens and tens up to a hundred million murders under communism.

Maoism trotskyism luxermurgism stalinism leninism, IT ALL COMES FROM COMMUNISM AND KARL MARX.

Every bit of this can be traced back to karl marx.

"Communism isnt a government!"

Yet china and the soviet union along with north korea say they are communist governments.

Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization, based upon common ownership of the means of production and the absence of private property. It can be classified as a branch of the broader socialist movement. Communism also refers to a variety of political movements which claim the establishment of such a social organization as their ultimate goal.

You cant do any of the stuff mentioned in that defninition unless you are in a communist country.

Its amazing you can pretend its just some business plan instead of the maniphesto on how a nation will be dictated. AMAZING world of pretend you live in.

Since the early 1970s, the term "Eurocommunism" was used to refer to the policies of communist parties in western Europe, which sought to break with the tradition of uncritical and unconditional support of the Soviet Union. Such parties were politically active and electorally significant in France and Italy.

Amazing how the communist parties cant be affiliated with a government, yet democrats can be associated with democracy and republicans with a republic. What kind of twisted logic.

With the decline of the Communist governments in Eastern Europe from the late 1980s and the breakup of the Soviet Union on December 8, 1991, communism's influence has decreased dramatically in Europe.

Most of the planet seems to agree that communism is a government, except communist apologists who want to say they are innocent and its just......communist dictators that commit crime. Either way communism is communism if you just want to refer to its economic policies in order to rally opinon, or if you are like me and see communism for what its worth, a classless society of equal men who are not free far more than their money.

kimosabe · September 2006

*Translation done by an improffessional, immoral, apathetic, Communist bastard*

Originally posted by Zerogenum
So its still a system of government in which the state takes everything.
Definition: I didn't read anything you said and repeat my previous post. Of course since nobody has anything, the government must have it.

Stop pretending its not.
Means: Don't quote the internet, that's my job.

Communism kills in every nation it comes in without fail.
Translation: Every communist leader kills babies who look like Jesus and Hitler. Democratic gevernments may kill people too, but that's ok because the white people need to show the brown man who's boss.

I have already listed the tens and tens up to a hundred million murders under communism.
Meaning: I'll still blame communism for that SOB Stalin, even though I refuse to aknowlege that he isn't strictly "communist" since he skewed the communist goals, but by the fact that he flew the red flag.

Maoism, trotskyism, luxermurgism, stalinism, leninism, IT ALL COMES FROM COMMUNISM AND KARL MARX.
Means: It's a good thing Hitler's siblings didn't survive, otherwise this statement would kill me. Those governments are siblings of true utopia, but they didn't turn out, so that's my scapegoat. *Note, Hitler had two siblings, who died while they were young, and most likely, if they had grown up, they would've killed Hitler in shame for what he did.* Marx and Lenin had prosperous, peaceful, fair governments (Marx never actually had any power) and the citizens loved them. This was communism as it should be remembered. Lenin accused Stalin and many of the upper tiers of the government of corruption even before Lenin's three, eventually lethal, strokes. If Lenin's wishes were carried out, Stalin would never have had power, and America might be more forthcoming about how socialistic it really is. The sad fact is none of the other pigs at Lenin's table wanted to give up their ham, so they gave the burden to the people - exactly opposite of what communism is supposed to be. True communism is closer to utopian anarchy than totalitarianistic government. *Note, please don't use caps lock, there are other ways of making text stand out that don't make you look like a first grader.*

Every bit of this can be traced back to karl marx.
Translation: Marx must be evil because his idea turned into a moster and ate people. Dr. Frankenstein tried to learn how to bring people back from the dead, but his creation was scary, so people killed it.

"Communism isnt a government!"
Definition: I need to have at least one line of truth in my posts so I don't look stupid.

Yet china and the soviet union along with north korea say they are communist governments.
Meaning: I took the phrase, "Governments that implement communism." and spun it to fit my point. Sinnce it's a common misconception in America anyway, nobody will notice.
Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization, based upon common ownership of the means of production and the absence of private property. It can be classified as a branch of the broader socialist movement. Communism also refers to a variety of political movements which claim the establishment of such a social organization as their ultimate goal.
Definition: I'll put his own difinition back in with more info so it looks like I found something that contradicts it. Everybody reads fast, so they won't know the difference between the quote, "political movements," and my point of political overthrow. Nobody need social organization, it might mean an immigrant is better than me at something.

You cant do any of the stuff mentioned in that defninition unless you are in a communist country.
Means: I pray no one else saw Kimosabe's post about how communist America really is.

Its amazing you can pretend its just some business plan instead of the maniphesto on how a nation will be dictated. AMAZING world of pretend you live in.
*Indecipherable rambling to self*
Since the early 1970s, the term "Eurocommunism" was used to refer to the policies of communist parties in western Europe, which sought to break with the tradition of uncritical and unconditional support of the Soviet Union. Such parties were politically active and electorally significant in France and Italy.
Translation: I've been saying all this stuff about rebellion and overthrow that nobody can assume that this paragraph is about true communists who hated Stalin spoiling the good name of communism.

Amazing how the communist parties cant be affiliated with a government, yet democrats can be associated with democracy and republicans with a republic. What kind of twisted logic.
Meaning: If I draw a skewed, and unavoidably obvious parallel, you have to agree with me. *Note, accountants are affiliated with accounting, hunters with hunting, and students with studying, but no one considers them to be political entities. "Communist party" is an incorrect term, and is abused by people like you to "spread your horrible propoganda" etc...*

With the decline of the Communist governments in Eastern Europe from the late 1980s and the breakup of the Soviet Union on December 8, 1991, communism's influence has decreased dramatically in Europe.
Definition: I'm so glad Stalin screwed everything up for commies, I hate them almost as much as Jews.

Most of the planet seems to agree that communism is a government, except communist apologists who want to say they are innocent and its just......communist dictators that commit crime. Either way communism is communism if you just want to refer to its economic policies in order to rally opinon, or if you are like me and see communism for what its worth, a classless society of equal men who are not free far more than their money.
Means: Here's my recap of all the BS I've fed you. Doing this makes is look like I'm intelligent and remember what I learned in Literature class at my supremist, elite high school.

There ya go Zero- I fixed it up a little with some commentary in green, so everyone can read it now. I should've mentioned this in my other post though, but it's really funny how you sound like a tough guy when people commented on your post count.

Zerogenum · September 2006

Originally posted by kimosabe

I am an idiot and nothing i have said has any meaning or proof behind it, even though under communism and communist ruled governments 100+ millions have died. I love communism and will deny that it had anything to do with it.

There ya go Zero- I fixed it up a little with some commentary in green, so everyone can read it now. I should've mentioned this in my other post though, but it's really funny how you sound like a tough guy when people commented on your post count.

Here you go kimosabe a nice bit of fact for you to chew up and puke out.

http://www.polskieradio.pl/polonia/article.asp?tId=40422&j=2

Look at that! more murders at the hands of.........communists!

kimosabe · September 2006

Originally posted by Zerogenum

Originally posted by kimosabe

I am an idiot and nothing i have said has any meaning or proof behind it, even though under communism and communist ruled governments 100+ millions have died. I love communism and will deny that it had anything to do with it.

There ya go Zero- I fixed it up a little with some commentary in green, so everyone can read it now. I should've mentioned this in my other post though, but it's really funny how you sound like a tough guy when people commented on your post count.

Thanks for quoting me there, that's the part I really really wanted to get across. I was doing all the quoting, and was begining to think our relationship wasn't mutual. However, if you must quote me, at least capitalize my "I"s and use good grammar. I'd hate to have my name soiled around here. Feel free to quote me any time!

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