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Imagine a world full of equality . . .

DaEm0nDaEm0n Member Posts: 520
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The US Declaration of Independence says that all men are created equal. And we all know that throughout the years that the term "equality" is used very loosely. Especially since there is a very strong tension between equality and opportunity.

Well, imagine in the future, that everyone is finally equal. The government even has very strict determination to make sure everyone is equal.

Imagine that each person that has a more than average intelligence would have to wear an earpiece 24/7, required by law, that will produce a loud noise every 20 seconds to scatter that person's thoughts.

Imagine that each person that is more athletic than average will have to wear bags with lead-balls, each person carrying a different weight, depending on how athletic they are.

Imagine that each person that is more good-looking than average will have to wear a mask 24/7 to cover their beauty.

Would you want to live in a world with REAL equality?

By the way, I just thought I'd ask you guys this after I read Harrison Bergeron.

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  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391

    Originally posted by DaEm0n

    The US Declaration of Independence says that all men are created equal. And we all know that throughout the years that the term "equality" is used very loosely. Especially since there is a very strong tension between equality and opportunity.
    Well, imagine in the future, that everyone is finally equal. The government even has very strict determination to make sure everyone is equal.
    Imagine that each person that has a more than average intelligence would have to wear an earpiece 24/7, required by law, that will produce a loud noise every 20 seconds to scatter that person's thoughts.
    Imagine that each person that is more athletic than average will have to wear bags with lead-balls, each person carrying a different weight, depending on how athletic they are.
    Imagine that each person that is more good-looking than average will have to wear a mask 24/7 to cover their beauty.
    Would you want to live in a world with REAL equality?

    By the way, I just thought I'd ask you guys this after I read Harrison Bergeron.
    F**k multiculturalism. All of this equality horse crap is a swindle.

    When all men were created equal was written, there was slavery, and only europeans could immigrate here legally.

    That sends a clear cut message.

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  • methane47methane47 Member UncommonPosts: 3,694

    Originally posted by DaEm0n

    Imagine that each person that is more athletic than average will have to wear bags with lead-balls, each person carrying a different weight, depending on how athletic they are.
    Man that would look alot like slavery... All the black people walking around with ball and chain? That would be Terrible

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  • kimosabekimosabe Member Posts: 516
    It's sad how I saw how this was gonna turn out even before I clicked on it. DaEmOn, were you purposely trying to get Zero- to flame you? It proves how well he reads when anything can give the slightest hint of communism when he totally missed your point with the line, "Would you want to live in a world with REAL equality?", but is it worth it to start another one of these "equalism=communism vs 'Mer'ca " (note, not "America") threads?

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  • DaEm0nDaEm0n Member Posts: 520

    Originally posted by kimosabe
    It's sad how I saw how this was gonna turn out even before I clicked on it. DaEmOn, were you purposely trying to get Zero- to flame you? It proves how well he reads when anything can give the slightest hint of communism when he totally missed your point with the line, "Would you want to live in a world with REAL equality?", but is it worth it to start another one of these "equalism=communism vs 'Mer'ca " (note, not "America") threads?

    Well, I haven't been on in awhile. So, first of all, I hardly even know who Zero is. And since he already has 300+ posts in these few days that he's signed up, it's already giving me some sort of impression of him.

    And most people on here know that I don't get into political debates, so I had no intentions to make this a political debate. I was just basically asking what would you do if the future was like that?

    *sigh* This place will never change. Except modjoe's "goat" thread.

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    The goatsie thread changed this community forever, I tell you. In other news, for idiotic examples of attempting to enforce equality see: eastern block communist states and programs for the cultivation of economic equality. You'll lol, I promise.



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  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,698

    Originally posted by DaEm0n

    The US Declaration of Independence says that all men are created equal. And we all know that throughout the years that the term "equality" is used very loosely. Especially since there is a very strong tension between equality and opportunity.

    Well, imagine in the future, that everyone is finally equal. The government even has very strict determination to make sure everyone is equal.

    Imagine that each person that has a more than average intelligence would have to wear an earpiece 24/7, required by law, that will produce a loud noise every 20 seconds to scatter that person's thoughts.

    Imagine that each person that is more athletic than average will have to wear bags with lead-balls, each person carrying a different weight, depending on how athletic they are.

    Imagine that each person that is more good-looking than average will have to wear a mask 24/7 to cover their beauty.

    Would you want to live in a world with REAL equality?

    By the way, I just thought I'd ask you guys this after I read Harrison Bergeron.

    You know, that would be scary...  almost like farenhiet 451.. but different... a mix of Farenhiet(sp?) 451, 1985, and Anthem.

    But thats not what it meant in the constitution, it says all people are created equal, that doesn't mean they have to be the same.  ..  I see the world coming to something of this sort, with all the "political correctness" and education being standardized throughout the country...  It's getting there.
  • AldaronAldaron Member Posts: 1,048

    When they wrote the Declaration of Independence, they were never saying that people were equal, but rather were guaranteed the same rights no matter what.

    Justice - Poor man murders someone - Executed. Rich man murders someone - Executed.

    That kind of equality.

    All you have to do is evaluate the world around you, and you'll know that there is absolutely no equality. Truth is, some individuals are just better than others.

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  • KuzzleKuzzle Member Posts: 1,058
      Imagine all the people...
  • BababooeyBababooey Member Posts: 322

    Originally posted by DaEm0n

    The US Declaration of Independence says that all men are created equal. And we all know that throughout the years that the term "equality" is used very loosely. Especially since there is a very strong tension between equality and opportunity.
    Well, imagine in the future, that everyone is finally equal. The government even has very strict determination to make sure everyone is equal.
    Imagine that each person that has a more than average intelligence would have to wear an earpiece 24/7, required by law, that will produce a loud noise every 20 seconds to scatter that person's thoughts.
    Imagine that each person that is more athletic than average will have to wear bags with lead-balls, each person carrying a different weight, depending on how athletic they are.
    Imagine that each person that is more good-looking than average will have to wear a mask 24/7 to cover their beauty.
    Would you want to live in a world with REAL equality?

    By the way, I just thought I'd ask you guys this after I read Harrison Bergeron.
    This is why I hate lawyers and politics, they waste their entire life debating about sentence structures, how grammar would affect their clients, finding loopholes in cellphone contracts, etc....I mean does it really have to be down to the word (and in come cases, apostrophes, quotations and letters?)

    When life is so diverse and each person has a unique view on perspective and interpretations, when can we just be human beings and just work towards a common goal, and stop our petty bickerings?

    But then again, we're human beings, and human beings are best at doing inhumane things...

    (Smart readers will have seen that I've contradicted myself several times...accckkk, politics...)

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  • lowradslowrads Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Can't we just leave this kind of discussion to the experts such as Robert Nozick and John Rawls?

    I mean, yeah, they're dead anyway.  Look how far it got them.  Go chase girls and play video games while you still have telomeres in your cells.  You're dying! 

    Besides, you can't discuss politics and ethics, much less distributive justice, unless you start at the Beginning.  It's not so much that it's the right place to start (or really even the first place), but no one will know what the hell you're talking about without having a common pool of ideas to draw upon.




  • Dr.JoeDr.Joe Member Posts: 12

    Originally posted by Theodoryk
    The goatsie thread changed this community forever, I tell you. In other news, for idiotic examples of attempting to enforce equality see: eastern block communist states and programs for the cultivation of economic equality. You'll lol, I promise.




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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453

    Originally posted by Dr.Joe

    Originally posted by Theodoryk
    The goatsie thread changed this community forever, I tell you. In other news, for idiotic examples of attempting to enforce equality see: eastern block communist states and programs for the cultivation of economic equality. You'll lol, I promise.




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    Hahahahahahaha!

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  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718
    There was a famous quote by someone. I can't remember his name, but it went somthing like this:

    "If everything was equal, then we as we know it would be corrupt."

    I don't know if you took it much thought DaE, but if we all were equal, things would be pretty borring. Equal to what extent you say? What if we ALL was like Paris Hilton? Would it matter to you? If we all was like Einstien, would it matter? In the Declaration, don't don't mean it that way. That all men are created equal. What it means (in my opinion..in a sort of way) is that we all are born equal but as we grow we will have our strength and weakness. If we all were the same then it would be pretty curroupted. What if all countries had an equal ammount of warheads. Then if one person tried to be different then everyone would take blame for it, thus increasing tenion and thus causing trouble. Causing maybe all the countries to use warheads on a simple little mastake.


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  • MisfitZMisfitZ Member Posts: 368

    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X
    There was a famous quote by someone. I can't remember his name, but it went somthing like this:

    "If everything was equal, then we as we know it would be corrupt."

    I don't know if you took it much thought DaE, but if we all were equal, things would be pretty borring. Equal to what extent you say? What if we ALL was like Paris Hilton? Would it matter to you? If we all was like Einstien, would it matter? In the Declaration, don't don't mean it that way. That all men are created equal. What it means (in my opinion..in a sort of way) is that we all are born equal but as we grow we will have our strength and weakness. If we all were the same then it would be pretty curroupted. What if all countries had an equal ammount of warheads. Then if one person tried to be different then everyone would take blame for it, thus increasing tenion and thus causing trouble. Causing maybe all the countries to use warheads on a simple little mastake.



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  • GorukhaGorukha Member Posts: 1,441
      Created Equal is a lie. Any porn star will tell you that.

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  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718

    Originally posted by MisfitZ

    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X
    There was a famous quote by someone. I can't remember his name, but it went somthing like this:

    "If everything was equal, then we as we know it would be corrupt."

    I don't know if you took it much thought DaE, but if we all were equal, things would be pretty borring. Equal to what extent you say? What if we ALL was like Paris Hilton? Would it matter to you? If we all was like Einstien, would it matter? In the Declaration, don't don't mean it that way. That all men are created equal. What it means (in my opinion..in a sort of way) is that we all are born equal but as we grow we will have our strength and weakness. If we all were the same then it would be pretty curroupted. What if all countries had an equal ammount of warheads. Then if one person tried to be different then everyone would take blame for it, thus increasing tenion and thus causing trouble. Causing maybe all the countries to use warheads on a simple little mastake.



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    Sorry. I type super fast and I make errors when I do. So I forgot to correct it. At least you understood the point....you whore.

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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267

    Equality means me being able to be ME, just as you have the equal right to be YOU. Therefore anybody who is a bigot is unamerican.

    Flame on!

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  • BlurrBlurr Member UncommonPosts: 2,155

    Hate to burst your bubble you godless ignorant hippies  (always wanted to say that), but it'll never happen.

    There will always be someone who wants to feel like they're better than you.

    Welcome to reality. Your textbook ideals and cries of anguish may be fine behind your computer screen, but they just don't work in the real world, which is what alot of you have yet to figure out.

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  • honzolohonzolo Member Posts: 321
     The statement is that 'all men are CREATED equal', not that they will remain equal. Some will become wealthier than others as a result of their focus... some will become more happy... some will have better family lives... some will give up and become bums... some will achieve mediocre success and some of them will be happy with that, some will be unhappy. Equality of outcome has never been a part of our constitution... that is up to us.
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