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Flamdreon
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Hello. I am new to the game. I haven't tried it for a very long time yet. I have not joined an outfit yet, but have completed the training (am rank 6). I usually go into battle and solo or try to work with the people I see. What I notice is that I get ONWED every freaking time! No matter what the odds are! If I take a Mosquito or a Reaver, I quickly get locked on from nowhere and shot down. If I attack ground troops, they still seem to waltz out of my way while very quickly dismantling my vehicle, until the bailing mechanism fails and I die. If I use a max, I seem to get quickly killed by VS, whose players seem to bypass my armor when shooting. When holding a tower, it seems as if all I have to do is anchor and control the hallway, right? Nope. A guy just ran around the corner, took about 4 or 5 hits in the face from my pounder max (his head was visible so I guess he was wearing a light suit) and then kills me with what seems like one hit. No matter what odds and what weapons I use (did not try heavy assault or anti vehicular yet though) I seem to get creamed every time. The longest I live is when I jump into someone's Marauder or something similar as a gunner and drive around harassing (not much you can do with a machine gun) enemy soldiers, until some heavy hitter such as a bfr or whatever kills us all. Also I resent getting killed out of nowhere (often happens, in situations violent and peaceful alike). If I join an outfit, will they help me learn? Because I am somewhat ready to quit otherwise, since it's hard and I have never really played games like BF or CS before. Please someone offer some advice!
Much obliged.
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Basically I would suggest you start off as a grunt and learn the basics of shooting and the FPS gameplay. Also start off as the NC or VS empire since they generally require alot less skill to kill with then the TR empire. Dont get me wrong TR are deady expecially there HA weapon, but if your not that good you will find it alot harder to kill with them then the other empires... Get yourself the HA weapon, become med so you can heal youself, engy so you can repair yourself and practice being a grunt. Also look into iniflltrator for your outdoor killing, sneaking up on Snipers and any others you can find.
Last but not least remember we were all new and sucked pretty much at one point. Like everything you will get better with more repetition.
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empire complain loudly that thier faction's weapons require the most
'skill' to use. i think it has a lot to do with playstyle. the TR
weapons are fast-firing and generally the most accurate over range -
most of their abilities are built around fighting defense or at least
standoff combat, while the NC have high damage, low accuracy and well
armoured - specialising at in-your-face attack, and VS are somewhere in
between with hit-and-run weapons and quite a few slow-moving, high damage
projectiles - leading your target is an important skill for all empires, but particularly with the VS.
Grunting in general is pretty cert-intensive to do properly; Medium Assault, Heavy Assault, Anti Vehicle, Special Assault - not to mention RExo armour, Medical, Engineering, Adv. Med, all of which are extremely useful, if not vital. MAX suits are a way to play grunt 'on the cheap', since you only require one cert to use, but they have limitations.
On one thing i WILL agree with Bina; the TR MAX suit special ability is the hardest to use properly. lock down in the wrong place and someone will put a rack of Decimators (three shot disposable rocket launcher - kills a MAX, and anyone standing too close to you, in three) in your back before you can blink. when you do find the right position however, they're extremely powerful. just remember, YOU ARE NOT A TANK. MAXes on their own are easy meat for anyone with AV; you need infantry support - or at least other MAXes - at all times.
if you DO want to be a tank, that's pretty cool too. for raw damage output, Armoured Assault 2 is the most efficient cert you can have by some margin. probelm is, unless you're VS the driver gets no gun at all, and even the VS one is little more than a glorified laser pointer. if you can befriend someone else with the cert though, and agree to alternate driving and gunning, you can have a lot of fun and earn a lot of kills.
Outfits are incredibly helpful for finding people to play with, and can have a massive effect on your enjoyment of the game. a few things to look out for though, when choosing one; look for mention of Temaspeak or Ventrillo - they're the top two free Voice-Communication programs available, and Voice-Comms are extremely useful, both for coordination, and for just general socializing - it helps to get to know the poeple you're playing with. Ignore any mention of being 'ranked 3rd on the server for members' or any such thing; some outfits will invite anyone and everyone who isn't in one already, and while some manage to stay organised and cohesive dispite that, most are full of idiots. i'd also advise you squad with with an outfit for at least a few hours before you decide to join, just to get a feel for how they work and what they do.
Stop worrying about your kill/death ratio; one place and one place only is your number of deaths recorded, and that is in your sessions stats which are wiped every time you log out. don't go into battle without full health and armour if you can avoid it, and remember to ask others for heals or repairs (V-N-M and V-N-R respectively on the quick voice macro) if you see them with medical or engineering tools on their hips. some will ignore you of course, but they get XP and kill assists for any kills you get after they heal you, so many will.
It's not funny, it's not clever, and it WILL break if you play with it.
-Zeke
If you are TR just get a chain gun and use short bursts at range.
oh, and we all know the VS motto Technology=might as well draw from the common pool.
lasher=joke
lancer...now there is a weapon that requires skill
thresher= buffed more times than a stripper pole and still sucks
beamer...BWAHAHAHAHA!
Magrider= only weapon to cause a nerf to the laws of physics!
Alright heres a few tips from a NOT-so-NEWB
this game for one is player skill,
you need to just be more careful.
Be it a reaver, wasp, or on ground, your chances of dying are equally likely
People are very skilled
Just try to think
thats all i can say
skill comes with time,
Definitely get an outfit,
they will run training drops and other things (if you get a good one)
Also try focusing your powers in one location,
perfecting one strategy,
Choose to fly ships, be a medic, hacker, cloaker, etc.
Basically pick a class
I'm combat atm
but you can always change later
but focus on one thing and get good at it
Good luck
If you are on markov,
I'm ashrez
ill try to get you an outfit invite and some help
~Seanjohn
Just another handsome boy graduate...
Thanks for all your advice everybody! It was quite helpful, especially since it didn't let me get too discouraged. I also tried VS instead of TR, and (thanks Tinybina!) it's really proving to be a difference, it's so nice to be able to kill people for a change, rather than empty clips into guys that just don't want to die from TR weapons. And the being smart strategy seems to be working more or less too
And if anyone feels like giving me some more tips, please please please do, cause I'm a noob and will be one for a while.
Thanks again!
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if you're on Emerald VS sling Azekiel1 a tell, or join a Vindicators squad.
It's not funny, it's not clever, and it WILL break if you play with it.
-Zeke
Since opening day, actually...what did you disagree with?
Are you going to try and claim the chaingun or the jackhammer are worse heavy weapons?
are you saying the lancer dosent require skill?
If you want to argue the thresher I will concede the point...I havent used one in a year
Beamer still sucks...but it is better than it used to be
the Magmower (and to a lesser extent the AMS)as it used to be known caused a big nerf to vehical/personal collisions, ask around, it may be before your time.
Find yourself a meat sheild. Do not be a meatshield or fodder.
Meatsheilds are other players in front of you to block bullets. Just remember do not shoot your fellow player in the back, he/she will not be happy with you.
NC is better than TR but if you like challenge then do TR.
also, punisher is a lousy weapon and only use yellow rounds agains vheicals and max suits... for infantry always use white rounds.
Best tip I can give you though is just key in on people that are skilled weather they be your empire or not, watch how they move and watch their tatics thats how I learned back in the day. I actually made it a point of trying to attack the best player on my server(johari) named Xenoproc, and I kept comming(outdoor fights expecially) at him untill I was basicly able to hold my own with him. Once I was able to hold my own with him, everyone else on the server was a piece of cake to kill.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
geez, some people are saying TR weapons are harder to use? dunno, but i'm VS, and i find the TR weapons extremely easier to use than the vanu weapons. A couple of times I've actually deleted my Lasher (vanu HEAVY assault) and energy ammo from my inventory during battle to pick up a TR's Cycler (TR MEDIUM assault) and 9mm ammo, and i do better with it.. and I certainly do MUCH better with a mini-chaingun as opposed to the Lasher. woww I stick as many of those chainguns in my locker as I can find lol.
anyway, i'm using the free trial too, has a max of 11 cert points... here's a couple setups that I use and do fairly well with
this is pretty good for just fighting infantry. on your setup have your heavy assault as your main slot, and punisher rifle for the other slot. should be able to fit 6 packs of your heavy assault ammo (should be more than enough), then get 3 medkits, 2 packs of jammer grenade ammo for the punisher (not the hand nades), then 3 plasma nades or something. when you make the Favorite setup in the terminal, switch the punisher to rocket/nade mode and load the jammer nade ammo. only use the punisher for the jammer nades.. and use your heavy assault for infantry. the punisher is to help disable mines and turrets and possible protect you from vehicles. get enhanced targeting implant to see the HP of enemies
gotta be smart with this setup but it can be fun. its not good for rushing ahead shooting because heavy assault will beat special assault point blank range (unless you use the 'fire all' firemode with the rocklet with rocket ammo and get REALLY lucky). there's a lot of combinations you can try with different ammo and whatnot for the thumper and rocklet.... but here's an easy one... rocklet in one slot and medium assault in the other, 4 packs of frag ammo (not the nades), and 4 packs of medium assault ammo, 3 medkits and 2 body repair nanokits, REK and the bodyarmor repair tool. when you set the Favorite, load the rocklet with frag ammo so its ready... with the frag ammo its a good AA gun that can scare away or blow up mosquitos... also get enhanced targeting again..
anyway you should definitely try finding a good outfit. i dont have an outfit but i play with my friend and we use setups that compliment each other. like one medical and one engineering, etc. Have fun
Wait till you get your greasy paws on a Jackhammer, DX...point blank insta-gib.
Another varyation on you first cert set would be AA max...decent tactical travel (espicialy with Vanu) and good AA, which inf will need from time to time...you could use rocklet flak ammo, but AA max will put more fear of god into the pilots.
give the kid Agiule armor and a lasher and let him warp all over the joint.
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