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ignesti · September 2006

I came back to NGE after some time away. I love SWG, CU and NGE. I tried lots and lots of games but SWG still lingered on in the back of my head. I love the graphics, the wide landscapes to explore on my cool mount, the community (although younger than before, but they can be ignored), the entertainers who give me courage to go on fighting, the space (die EVE die), Darth Vader, the Emperor, the hellish Rebels, GCW (it's coming back).

No other game can be as diverse as SWG.

What I want is a server merge of the European servers and packing up all the ghosttowns so we can start all over again. It should be done more often. SWG (for me) is a tale of settlers and explorers in an expanding universe of adventure and war.

Peace SWG lovers.

And keep flaming $SWG, they should never have forced NGE on us, they could have implemented it in several consecutive publishes.

Obraik · September 2006

Yeah, there needs to be a house wipe out sooner rather then later. I was helping someone move into my guilds city today and it took alot of searching through the city to find a spot where he could place his house. Many of the houses there haven't been used for over 2 years.

Athela · September 2006

I do not see the urgency of a house wipe/packup, but I wish they would merge servers. Perhaps some of the same technical problems involved in house pack up come into play when considering server merges as well.

Erillion · September 2006

No need for house wipe. Very much need for house pack-up and storage in offline files so the database only has to juggle data from current players.

By its very nature I dont see SWG servers merging.

But across-server-PvP areas would be nice (new planet or space zone).

Have fun

Erillion

Scaris · September 2006

Originally posted by Obraik
Yeah, there needs to be a house wipe out sooner rather then later. I was helping someone move into my guilds city today and it took alot of searching through the city to find a spot where he could place his house. Many of the houses there haven't been used for over 2 years.

Dear lord I would kill for the ability to packup condemned houses. I have a PA full of unused houses, some years old. Alot of PA's are actually forced to just start second new PA's elsewhere and it sucks.

Scaris · September 2006

Originally posted by Erillion
No need for house wipe. Very much need for house pack-up and storage in offline files so the database only has to juggle data from current players.
By its very nature I dont see SWG servers merging.
But across-server-PvP areas would be nice (new planet or space zone).Have fun
Erillion

Smed did say he felt the servers needed merging, so after christmas this year I think it's entirely possible.

Obraik · September 2006

Originally posted by Erillion

No need for house wipe. Very much need for house pack-up and storage in offline files so the database only has to juggle data from current players.
By its very nature I dont see SWG servers merging.
But across-server-PvP areas would be nice (new planet or space zone).

Have fun
Erillion

House wipe, house packup, same thing :P Either way, it gets rid of all the abandoned houses taking up space on the planets. By house wipe I don't mean ALL houses out there, even active ones :P

Squal'Zell · September 2006

the solution is simple.

put a cap on the amount of money you can put in maintenance like 30 days worth.

instead of doing a wide cleanup, just put a cap on houses maintenance.so every house with more than 30 days worth of maintenance would go back down to 30 days.

also allow the ability to witdraw money from them so epeople wont whine about i put 4.5 trillion credits in my house and now you limit it to 30 days?

BaronJuJu · September 2006

They also need to add the feature to pack up guildhalls. Seems to be the only style of house that doesn't have this feature.

Ouchmuch · September 2006

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

the solution is simple.
put a cap on the amount of money you can put in maintenance like 30 days worth.
instead of doing a wide cleanup, just put a cap on houses maintenance.so every house with more than 30 days worth of maintenance would go back down to 30 days.
also allow the ability to witdraw money from them so epeople wont whine about i put 4.5 trillion credits in my house and now you limit it to 30 days?

It is actually more simple then what many think all they have to do is actualy turn ON the housing controls they shut off... many of those houses would be long gone if they had left the controls alone, from there cranking up maintenance costs ( even if just for a short time ) and removing the automatic bank draft should have abandond structures gone in no time at all.

Now if they really wanted to get things rolling they could also add cheap npc city instanced apartments while dramaticaly increasing the costs of both houses and player cities, this system would bring in two things.

1. the number of player cities and houses would be dramatically reduced due to the costs of operation

2. player cities and houses that remain would then become a source of bragging rights, specially the cities as the costs should be high enough to require an active and cooperating guild to maintain.

If they wanted to they could even allow players to choose to make their city PvP, thus permitting the destruction or even capture of the city ( if they are worried about players houses I think it wouldn't be much to only allow city structures to be attackable).

Scaris · September 2006

Originally posted by Squal'Zell
the solution is simple.
put a cap on the amount of money you can put in maintenance like 30 days worth.
instead of doing a wide cleanup, just put a cap on houses maintenance.so every house with more than 30 days worth of maintenance would go back down to 30 days.
also allow the ability to witdraw money from them so epeople wont whine about i put 4.5 trillion credits in my house and now you limit it to 30 days?

That doesn't solve anythng since a house stays there once it's condemned. You don't have to put maintainance in your house for it to stay where you placed it. You just can't use it til you pay what you owe.

BaronJuJu · September 2006

I have wondered in the past why they have not made an apartment style housing in NPC cities (Similar to EQ2), Seemed like one of the ways to control the housing situations we currently have. Offer cheap, instanced hosuing vice placing a house for those folks that just use the place as storage.

Squal'Zell · September 2006

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by Squal'Zell
the solution is simple.
put a cap on the amount of money you can put in maintenance like 30 days worth.
instead of doing a wide cleanup, just put a cap on houses maintenance.so every house with more than 30 days worth of maintenance would go back down to 30 days.
also allow the ability to witdraw money from them so epeople wont whine about i put 4.5 trillion credits in my house and now you limit it to 30 days?

That doesn't solve anythng since a house stays there once it's condemned. You don't have to put maintainance in your house for it to stay where you placed it. You just can't use it til you pay what you owe.

what? since when? what hapened to the "house that has no longer any maintenance will go boom including all the items in it." system?

hmmm maybe i should go visit my old guild hall and guild storage house... might be condemned and i can pay some maintenance on it...

Scaris · September 2006

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by Squal'Zellthe solution is simple. put a cap on the amount of money you can put in maintenance like 30 days worth. instead of doing a wide cleanup, just put a cap on houses maintenance.so every house with more than 30 days worth of maintenance would go back down to 30 days.also allow the ability to witdraw money from them so epeople wont whine about i put 4.5 trillion credits in my house and now you limit it to 30 days?
That doesn't solve anythng since a house stays there once it's condemned. You don't have to put maintainance in your house for it to stay where you placed it. You just can't use it til you pay what you owe.what? since when? what hapened to the "house that has no longer any maintenance will go boom including all the items in it." system?
hmmm maybe i should go visit my old guild hall and guild storage house... might be condemned and i can pay some maintenance on it...

I have never seen it that way. I have been told that is how it is but since I have been playing I have never seen it. Besides if a structure other then a harvestor runs out of money it automatically takes it from your account.

We have plenty of condemned buildings around (including factories) that will never go away unless they implement auto-packup when maintenance runs out or something which at the moment is the most feesible sounding solution to me.

Obraik · September 2006

If the structure is condemned, only the owner can enter/access it and put maint on it again.

Scaris · September 2006

Originally posted by Obraik
If the structure is condemned, only the owner can enter/access it and put maint on it again.

Ya but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't go away...

Obraik · September 2006

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by Obraik
If the structure is condemned, only the owner can enter/access it and put maint on it again.

Ya but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't go away...

No it certainly doesn't. That was for Squal's benefit :P

Scaris · September 2006

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by ObraikIf the structure is condemned, only the owner can enter/access it and put maint on it again.
Ya but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't go away...No it certainly doesn't. That was for Squal's benefit :P

Roger Roger!

wolfmann · September 2006

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by Obraik
If the structure is condemned, only the owner can enter/access it and put maint on it again.

Ya but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't go away...

The old system, from when they didn't mess with the original game and vision, had the houses go boom soon after they ran out of maintenance.

But then they added "draw from bank when house was empty", then they added "condemned" instead of "boom".

The infinite wisdom of managers and fresh out of school developers that lack the ability to see long term effects on what they do.

anaic · September 2006

Originally posted by wolfmann

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by Obraik
If the structure is condemned, only the owner can enter/access it and put maint on it again.

Ya but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't go away...

The old system, from when they didn't mess with the original game and vision, had the houses go boom soon after they ran out of maintenance.

But then they added "draw from bank when house was empty", then they added "condemned" instead of "boom".

The infinite wisdom of managers and fresh out of school developers that lack the ability to see long term effects on what they do.

Yeah...and even if they turned on the old system again there are probably structures out there with millions of credits in them that would be around for years.

DeletedAcct · September 2006

Originally posted by Ouchmuch

Originally posted by Squal'Zell
the solution is simple.
put a cap on the amount of money you can put in maintenance like 30 days worth.
instead of doing a wide cleanup, just put a cap on houses maintenance.so every house with more than 30 days worth of maintenance would go back down to 30 days.
also allow the ability to witdraw money from them so epeople wont whine about i put 4.5 trillion credits in my house and now you limit it to 30 days? It is actually more simple then what many think all they have to do is actualy turn ON the housing controls they shut off... many of those houses would be long gone if they had left the controls alone, from there cranking up maintenance costs ( even if just for a short time ) and removing the automatic bank draft should have abandond structures gone in no time at all. Now if they really wanted to get things rolling they could also add cheap npc city instanced apartments while dramaticaly increasing the costs of both houses and player cities, this system would bring in two things.
1. the number of player cities and houses would be dramatically reduced due to the costs of operation
2. player cities and houses that remain would then become a source of bragging rights, specially the cities as the costs should be high enough to require an active and cooperating guild to maintain.
If they wanted to they could even allow players to choose to make their city PvP, thus permitting the destruction or even capture of the city ( if they are worried about players houses I think it wouldn't be much to only allow city structures to be attackable).

Both good and viable plans. The idea of player owned cities for pvp does sound intriguing. I would also like to see some pre-built instanced apartments like AO or EQ2, as they would be a good base of operations for new players just starting out.

Mrbloodworth · September 2006

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by Squal'Zell
the solution is simple.
put a cap on the amount of money you can put in maintenance like 30 days worth.
instead of doing a wide cleanup, just put a cap on houses maintenance.so every house with more than 30 days worth of maintenance would go back down to 30 days.
also allow the ability to witdraw money from them so epeople wont whine about i put 4.5 trillion credits in my house and now you limit it to 30 days?

That doesn't solve anythng since a house stays there once it's condemned. You don't have to put maintainance in your house for it to stay where you placed it. You just can't use it til you pay what you owe.

This did not used to be a problem you know. The system cleaned its self.

KenshuAni · September 2006

Originally posted by anaic

Originally posted by wolfmann

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by Obraik
If the structure is condemned, only the owner can enter/access it and put maint on it again.

Ya but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't go away...

The old system, from when they didn't mess with the original game and vision, had the houses go boom soon after they ran out of maintenance.

But then they added "draw from bank when house was empty", then they added "condemned" instead of "boom".

The infinite wisdom of managers and fresh out of school developers that lack the ability to see long term effects on what they do.

Yeah...and even if they turned on the old system again there are probably structures out there with millions of credits in them that would be around for years.

Yup. I decided to take a break from the game in October 2005. I put in several hundred thousand credits. Then they turned off maintenance, so when I used my free trial in March I still had over a year of maintenance paid up.

Scaris · September 2006

Originally posted by KenshuAni
Yup. I decided to take a break from the game in October 2005. I put in several hundred thousand credits. Then they turned off maintenance, so when I used my free trial in March I still had over a year of maintenance paid up.

Paid or not they will be there regardless.

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