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Pawlin's idiotic thread on oFourms
GotCobol
Member Posts: 13
Guesss helios and Pawlin/Senators are allowed to break the fourm rules given for banning many of us
http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=1207587&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=1207587&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
9/4/2006, Good Bye SOE Good Luck with the Craptastic NGE
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/Foghorn
And you know what, everything I've ever said about them was just proven right, in that one post.
Corret you are, if they are infact just "Customers" just like the rest of us then I suspect, unless there is a double standard, that Pawlin should be soon taking a 1 week IP ban.
9/4/2006, Good Bye SOE Good Luck with the Craptastic NGE
I guess everyone who posts should do what he says because he is the master helmet
Below describes Pawlin's troll tactics.
The Don King Troll. Related to Affected Profundity Trolls, Don King Trolls spout gibberish in the hope that they'll either bore or confuse to death those with whom they disagree. The average Don King Troll is "a pursuitist who gromulates his adversarial computerists with height defining formulations to the disinterestingest adjunct."
The Ian. There's this kid, Ian. Remember those old cartoons with the bulldog who had a fawning sidekick? The sidekick was a scrawny little guy who followed the bulldog and was constantly yapping away as if the bulldog cared what he thought. Chances are you know a kid maybe a kid named Ian who is just like this. He desperately wants the approval of those he idolizes and spends his time trying to ingratiate himself to them, when he's not acting as if he belongs in their midst already. Ians are a form of Mutt characterized by a "me too" mindset. Their contributions to most discussions can be boiled down to imitative behavior or "me too" and "attaboy" affirmations.
c/p in case they delete it
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Pawlin
Galactic Dickwad
Posts: 14115
Registered: 08-01-2003
First of all when starting a post such as this it seems obligatory to explain that I'm not a troll and preempt any deletion of my post. If this post is deleted ten I'm the victim and I can do no wrong. Evilcensorsayswhat? I'm pretty sure theres something around page 8 or 9 of the US constitution that gives me explicit rights to make this post but I'm too lazy to actually inform myself.
There's a question that's been on my mind lately: How can we break 10 page manifestos's hypnotic spell over the most noxious nudniks you'll ever see? I mean, 10 page manifestos is obviously hiding something. Permit me this forum to rant.
OK, now I can get to the meat of this post that you all must read in full in its complete entirely. I know that this is long but you really do need to read the entire post in order to fully understand the meaning that I wish to impart to everyone that is here. Please do not take my words out of context. I used to own a pony and we named it Fresca. I won it at a picnic when I was a kid. I never specifically wanted a pony but I got one anyway, go figure. It lived at my grampas house cause he had some fenced in area. We used to feed it birthday cake. He got a bit bad tempered over the years. Unfortunately it got free one time and bit a jogger and we had to get rid of it. Now you might wonder what my pony has to do with anything. The answer is simply : nothing. I could also just tell people that you should stay on target, but that would use fewer words.
You've heard me say that 10 page manifestos's factotums are all impulsive wheeler-dealers. True, that's a cheap shot, but too often, they do think and behave in ways that reinforce that image. The plethora of obfuscating, multisyllabic phrases in 10 page manifestos's publications serves only to accentuate the obscurity of his prose. In view of that, it is not surprising that I am not fooled by 10 page manifestos's predaceous and eristic rhetoric. I therefore gladly accept the responsibility of notifying others that somebody has to give direction to a universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality. That somebody can be you. In any case, I am not embarrassed to admit that I have neither the training, the experience, the license, nor the clinical setting necessary to properly shoo 10 page manifestos away like the annoying bug that he is. Nevertheless, I do have the will to bring strength to our families, power to our nation, and health to our cities. That's why I doubtlessly assert that 10 page manifestos plans to blame those who have no power to change the current direction of events. He has instructed his brethren not to discuss this or even admit to his plan's existence. Obviously, 10 page manifestos knows he has something to hide. Everyone ought to read my award-winning essay, "The Naked Aggression of 10 page manifestos". In it, I chronicle all of 10 page manifestos's manuscripts, from the immature to the brain-damaged, and conclude that according to 10 page manifestos, skin color means more than skill and gender is more impressive than genius. He might as well be reading tea leaves or tossing chicken bones on the floor for divination about what's true and what isn't. Maybe then 10 page manifestos would realize that he thinks that governments should have the right to lie to their own subjects or to other governments. However, it would sure be nice if he could present his case without resorting to yellow journalism. I get concerned when I see 10 page manifestos lead us, lemminglike, over the precipice of self-destruction. Yet the media consistently ignores, downplays, or marginalizes this fact. More to the point, his tricks cannot stand on their own merit. That's why they're dependent on elaborate artifices and explanatory stories to convince us that 10 page manifestos can change his amoral ways.
Wow, words like amoral sure don't help do they? No they don't.
There are a lot of players in this game. Some of you are tall in real life and some of you are not so tall in real life. It takes players of all heights to play a game. Well no it doesn't really require tall people nor require short people and I guess medium height people are OK too. I guess my point here is that it doesn't really matter how tall you are you may or may not play the game and have a height of some sort. So just keep this in mind.
When I write things personally I tend to keep things short. This is not how everyone writes things. Sometimes people say a lot when they write things and sometimes they say little. In either case they may have more words or fewer words. Some of their words may be long words with complex meanings. In any case you will probably see a number of short words. Short words are pretty necessary in anything you write.
1. This is the first entry in a list of things. There usually has to be a long list of things. These points are various things trying to get across different meanings and have some sort of idea. No good ideas would be any good if they did not have a long list. Actually thats not true of course, which is one of my points.
2. I don't like aquariums really. Its like a fish prison. And fish are boring. We went to the aquariam one time that had the whale from the Free Willy movies. It was a whale in a tank.
3. That last point probably wasnt my strongest point.
4. You can just ignore points 2 and 3.
5. Yes you do need to read all of these points. If you don't then you are not listening and thats just wrong. You NEED to listen to me or you're insulting me and I'll get unhappy. See, if you don't read my post then tell me you like my post then you are a bad person.
6. The sky is blue. Generally at some point there has to be a point made that is so patently obvious that its like pointing out that the sky is blue. OK so sometimes the sky is more like an orange and at night its more like black, but you get the idea.
7. People also talk in total absolutes. My way of thinking is really the only way of thinking and if you disagree then you are wrong.
8. You should all go read the entire dictionary right now. You also really need to demand or request things that are excessively impractical and do it with a straight face. So go read the entire dictionary for no reason. Cause I say so. Don't tell me you can't, cause its just words and you're literate so if you don't do it then you're just being lazy, so quit whining and get to readin.
9. No .. on second thought, stop ignoring point number 3.
10. There is no number 10.
11. You could probably be doing something better right now couldn't you? I guess I could to. But if we just all subscribed to that view then none of us would be here in the first place. If someone posts on the net and theres nobody to read it then does it make a sound? If this post wasn't 10 pages long would we have more time to do something more useful? What could you do with the extra 5 or 10 minutes of your life? How many people read this? Multiply the people who read this by the minutes it takes and you get a lot of minutes.
12. If asked a simple yes or no question you could write 1-2 paragraphs and explain in detail the entire context, background and everything about your stance. Or you could give a single word.
I could probably have gotten by with fewer than 12 points but I do really need to illustrate the value of having fewer points and more points illustrates that better.
Don't worry we are getting close to done. This is very very very important and you all need to read every word of it.
In general, 10 page manifestos maliciously defames and damagingly misrepresents everyone and everything around him. There's a word for that: libel. With his publications hanging over us like the Sword of Damocles, it makes sense that he says that black is white and night is day. That is the most despicable lie I have ever heard in my entire life. What does the Sword of Damocles have to do with anything you might as? Exactly.
Some people don't like some things about the game. OK probaby everyone has some thing about the game that they dislike. This is pretty obvious statement and I ask you why I'd bother to make it. You may start to see the point.
This part is in a big font and weird color to draw your eye to it and sbecause I don't realize this looks stupid and is just obnoxious. So read these big words and heed their meaning.
Whatever you do, do NOT put the hose back in the well. People throw in phrases that make no sense to most people but that don't stop em. See how effective it is?
You know what also doesn't work very well? Posting stuff in a weird color that doesn't show up well against a default black background.
No, I'm not making fun of you. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you. Its the other people, really.
And centering text makes my eyes hurt.
You should really never center text in the body of your message.
How can we trust 10 page manifestos if he doesn't trust us? We can't. And besides, he is not as muzzy-headed or stinking as you might think. He's more so. Isn't it odd that prudish fiends, whose flighty lifestyle will force us to experience the full spectrum of the 10 page manifestos Rainbow of Denominationalism some day, are immune from censure? Why is that? People often ask me that question. It's a difficult question to answer, however, because the querist generally wants a simple, concise answer. He doesn't want to hear a long, drawn-out explanation about how the term "idiot savant" comes to mind when thinking of 10 page manifestos. Admittedly, that term applies only halfway to him, which is why I believe that when 10 page manifestos says that space gods arriving in flying saucers will save humanity from self-destruction, in his mind, that's supposed to end the argument. It's like he believes he has said something very profound. He complains a lot. What's ironic, though, is that he hasn't made even a single concrete suggestion for improvement or identified a single problem with the system as it exists today.
There is a holy war going on and theres no solution to it. People hate these things and they just don't think rationally.
This has been my humble post that 10 page manifestos are bad.
You read it. You can't unread it.
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Lets not forget Helios
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Dev
Posts: 701
Registered: 08-18-2004
/bump
-The Dark Lord Helios
-Lead Designer, SWG
"There is no reality in the absence of observation."
/SLAP!
If it weren't for double standards, they'd have none at all.
I love how maybe 30% of the people that posted a response in that thread even noticed they're being ridiculed by 2 senators AND a dev. Some were actually cheering them! This is why I have no respect for people still paying to play that game. They either....
1. Are a bunch of morons who have NO clue what's going on.
2. Have no backbone and let people walk all over them while they ask for more punishment.
3. Don't mind someone, that they are paying, talking down to them and laughing at them behind their backs.
And regarding the staff of $OE, I honestly hope they continue acting this childish. The more they continue, the more people will notice, and deeper the hole they are digging for themselves will get.
When SWG finally goes bye-bye and all these "people" get laid off, (starts Yoda voice) "Hard to find, a job will be!"
I hope they all enjoy working for Abercrombie & Finch....folding $80 shirts while they make minimum wage.
And I'll be there...smiling.
The number one way to get rid of trolls is to not pay them any attention. They need nay demand your attention. Yes sometimes its hard to ignore the butt naked man in the middle of town masturbateing infront of school children. Lets be honest its hard not to walk over, and beat the liveing crud out of them. That being said you have to take the pacifist point of view, and ignore them. That will make them lose interest, and move along. Better yet starve them of money. After all it is much harder to troll when you work in fastfood.
Some wise people have pointed this out many times. The SOE forums not only have officially sanctioned trolls, but the officials are trolls also. They are in the wonderful position to instigate conflict, and be the ones charged with manageing it. Yes its like giveing a serial killer the keys to the jail house. You know things will not end well atleast for the innocent.
The sad thing is that this is all a routine. People are paying good money to be treated like this. Yes obviously some people have made the choice to pay to be raped. Personally I would not pay for such a thing when there are so many places to find happy endings.
Hopefully my previous topic is close to the reality of the subject if the game gets a new lease on life. SOE will have no need, or desire to keep their forum trolls. I have to give credit where it is due they are turning a apparant weakness into a strength. They are getting people to pay for bad customer service, and that is easier to provide then good.
players given special 'status' by SOE. The fact that it hasn't
been locked or deleted, when it clearly violates the posting
guidelines, the fact that the thread is nothing more than a trolling
shot at paying customers, and the fact that Helios decided to chime in
and take a shot of his own makes it worse than if an ordinary player
did it.
LMAO thats a funny post, I am surprised by how few understand what the poster is explaining. Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
That is true; he could have explained his point with a much smaller post LMAO. Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
/shakes head in disbelief
I reiterate my earlier theory that SOE is performing an experiment to see how badly they can mistreat customers and still collect a check.
I only read some of Pawlins post. I just got off work, and Im too tired to read all of what looked to me as jibberish.
But I did read through most of the replies, and it seems the Pawlin is makeing fun of the customers. The way they type out thier posts.
Am I wrong in thinking that they shouldnt be makeing small of thier paying customers? I know that some of the threads can get extensive, and with the way some people post with all the different fonts and colors that they can be hard to read. But not all of them are Pre-Cu rants. Alot of them are Pro-NGE people who are posting constructively with thier ideas and trying to help.
Then comes in this Pawlin guy, who creates a thread that is totally against the forum guidelines, and insults people? And then to make matters worse, Helios jumps in very early on in the thread, and supports it! And not only supports it, but supports it with a /bump that is also against forum guidelines.
Sad days over at SWG.
WTH people , Why care about BS like that ? Is anyone really surprised to find double standards at this point ? Of course they are going to support, The small amount of players who still enjoy the game . Besides ,What thread over there isn't filled with moronic statements , And fluff fillers ? Even the pre-cu posts are retarded , How can you take anyone serious .Who pays to play something they "HATE" all the while bitching they don't get what they want from an entity like sony ?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Agree!
I don't waste time caring about BS like that.
I do however waste a few minutes being entertained by BS like that... LOL!
It really comes as no surprise that the irony of Pawlin's post (and the /bump by Helios) is completely lost on you people.
Yeah I think they all suck
The irony here is that you don't get that most of us get it. We just don't find it as humorous as you do. In fact I got the point of that thread by the 3rd paragraph and just skipped to the bottom to get to the point.
In fact, that's probably more of a senators post that I have read since NGE hit its one month anniversary mark...
Also I might add that that /bump from Helios should be about as long as any of his threads/responses should be so that was all good to me!