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how many jedi were left.
lassiter
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i keep hearing everyone say there were only 2 jedi left after exec order 66, yet yoda and obi went to turn off the transmitter and sent a message for any survivors to go into hiding, so who knows how many were actually out there. ok screaming can start now! and since vaders job was to hunt them down after that then obviously their were still some out there, and the galaxy is a large area to hide in.
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Theres an EU book where Luke is sent to find the remaining Jedi after RotJ. Yoda says less than a hundred survived Order 66, and fewer have survived to that point. Several had taken on Learners.
However, Vader & the Emperor BOTH recruited Dark Force users, for several purposes. They had about 200 all together, sine the killed ones that were too strong.
The Black Sun also recruited some, both those that fell & those hiding.
The Emperor's Hand became the Elite of the Elite Force users, and they numbered 50 if I remember. They had the best outfits. Imagine that new Restuss Rebel Armor with the Emperor's guard Helmet, and a cape... all in red... they carried a Blaster Staff, a Pistol & a LS, Red of course...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
"i keep hearing everyone say there were only 2 jedi left after exec order 66, yet yoda and obi went to turn off the transmitter and sent a message for any survivors to go into hiding, so who knows how many were actually out there. ok screaming can start now! and since vaders job was to hunt them down after that then obviously their were still some out there, and the galaxy is a large area to hide in."
There is no answer to that.. not in what I would term "official".
Lucas had to authorize EU books.. but he also contridicted them at times.. as well as thing he himself had done, said, put in film.
The closest answer I can even think of..
Is either in EP 4 or 5.. Luke specificly says something about this.. I think it was EP4 in Obi's little house.
Basicly the answer was to the effect of: very few or not many left.
The issue I ever had with the "number" game.. was the statement had been made either before or duing beta that SWG took place between EP4 and 5. Thus the rebels had started to become a force and yet the empire was still strong.
Definitely never saw many Jedi in EP 4 or 5... not like i used to see in game anyway.
SW storyline sucks tbh lol george lucas cant do script writing
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Here's a Pic of that Armor BTW.... CLICKY & CLICKY2 & CLICKY3 & CLICKY4
Not all these guys were Jedi, only the Squad Leaders, except for the Elite Squad...
The first pic you can actually see the Saber on thier belt. They ONLY used Vs other Saber Users. The 4th pic is the second Version of their Armor.
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
I read a Star Wars Book recently called " Dark Lord, The Rise of Darth Vader" by James Luceno, for Lucqas Books. An excellent book that takes place between Ep3 and 4. It tells the story of how Anakin is still struggling with the ddark side and the emporer finally pushes him over the edge. In the book there are many Jedi left that escaped Order 66. Some, that were leading Clones, were warned by the clones and thus got away.
Dakkide
By all means the only thing in the Star Wars universe and saga that destroyed all Jedi was the NGE and SOE.
Yep.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
"In the book there are many Jedi left that escaped Order 66. Some, that were leading Clones, were warned by the clones and thus got away."
Well the "a few" that Obi mentions in EP4 could be "many" but would be "a few" compared to how many there was. As he also said.. The truth greatly depends on your point of view.
What a single person would describe as "many" compared to their solo self.. and what would be described as "many" to someone say living in New York City can be greatly different things.
I never really worried about how many were left.
I just found it odd back when vader was landing in Theed.. to see 50 to 100 saber weilders standing by him making profane statements to him... I don't think that would have ever happened...
I just found it odd back when vader was landing in Theed.. to see 50 to 100 saber weilders standing by him making profane statements to him... I don't think that would have ever happened...
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This is why i thought attack on sight and tef for npc's and players should never had been removed from game jedi were supposed to be in hiding not stroking their own ego's by showing off. or showing their age or iq as the case may be hehheh.
If he lived in the republic, we would have found him much sooner...
Two (probably incorrect quotes) that define the following. There was an unknown number of Jedi in the universe (Anakin was Jedi skill-wise, even if not by title), and only some of them were brought into Jedi cult.
As such, there had to be others out there, simple as that.
But since it's fiction, who shot first changes every decade.
Suffering, Hatred...
Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.
I dunno I thought he said something different than this.. or I didn't scan through it enough.
I was scrolling through the script... cuz I am too lazy to dig out my VHS.. yes sorry I never got ep 4, 5, or 6 updated versions.
Anyway the quote I found was just:
"A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who
was a pupil of mine until he turned
to evil, helped the Empire hunt down
and destroy the Jedi Knights. He
betrayed and murdered your father.
Now the Jedi are all but extinct.
Vader was seduced by the dark side
of the Force."
So the only mention was "Now the Jedi are all but extinct."
For some reason I thought I remembered something slightly different.
I dunno how many there were to begin with.. but there could still have been quite a few left and be relatively extinct .. /shrug
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
"Doesn't he say something during the Saber Scene, the first time Luke sees a saber?"
That part of the script I quoted was from that part of EP4 in Ben's little house.
After they get there .. more or less.. I have something here for you.. your father would have wanted you to have this.. That rolls into how Lukes Uncle thought his father "should have stayed here and not gotten involved".
I just thought he said something about how there were more Jedi but only a few. The only thing I found was the all but extinct comment.
Ben always talked about Anakin and Vader as two different people.. part of his whole "the truth depends greatly on your own point of view" philosophy.
Anyway we know there was more than we ever saw in the films...
I personally always loved the scene in EP2 when all the Jedi showed up.. just to see all those light sabers. I really just like that because it wasn't something we had ever been able to see in the films until then.
*It* just never made sense in the setting of SWG... at least to me.
If you want to know the true number of Jedi, you need to go to THE reference:
THE UNIVERSE:
4. Population
It is known that there are an infinite number of
worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them.
However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a
finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by
infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average
population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero.
From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also
zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the
products of a deranged imagination.
--The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Hence: There are no Jedi
Force users? A fuckton.
NGE Refugee.
In Return of the Jedi in Yoda's death scene he tells Luke "When gone am I the last Jedi you will be. Pass on what you have learned."
Between A New Hope and Return of the Jedi there was one Yoda. He died then there was none then Luke faced Vader and passed his Jedi Trials and became a Jedi. Thus the title Return of the Jedi.
The EU really doesn't mean much as far as the official Star Wars stuff. If Lucas doesn't have a part in it it's only EU. Check the requirements to have a Star Wars novel published, the only dufference between Star Wars and anything else is that Star Wars requires you to already have something published. It doesn't say the story have to be approved by Lucas, LA, or anyone other than Bantam Books and Del Rey.
I don't claim to be right, I'm just posting.
And the EU chronicles some.
Dozens dueling in the starport though, no.
Of the true Jedi ones who were Jedi Knights and Masters that were left, there were less then hundred I do believe, but there were also Padawans that were not Jedi, that survived when many of their masters did not, and there were also Jedi who left the order before and during the War before order 66 that survived, and there were also Padawans that left the order before and during the war before order 66 as well. But over all I think there were only a few hundred of all of them put together. This is why the Jedi were always considered after order 66 all but extinct. As well Vader and the Sith eventually stopped hunting down what was left of the Jedi and others after order 66, because they were viewed as no longer a threat, they were also very hard to find. Bring it on down now
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
You can of course go into semantics here over Sith vs. Jedi, the FS and midichlorian stuff and all that. But at this point it might be better to clasify what "Jedi" represents.
Is Jedi:
- Trained force power user
- Follower of Yoda
- Member of Jedi Council
- Anyone with midichlorian count higher than their shoe size
- Anyone who has learned /forceChoke2
- Someone who wields LS
- A padawan
Also, can Jedi status be revoked? Can it be lost? The dark Jedi vs. Sith...
It's all a big kettle of fish actually...
If you want to know the true number of Jedi, you need to go to THE reference:
THE UNIVERSE:
4. Population
It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.
--The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Hence: There are no Jedi
That is Great. I Love those books. We do not exist.
$oe wanted to fly
How to fly, throw yourself at the ground and miss.
well theyve proven they can do the first part right. hehheh
But that simply isn't true. Vader was Jedi, since Anakin was Jedi. His "title" might have changed, but his power hasn't. What about emperor?
I would like to think Yoda didn't know about all of the Jedi in hiding and that a few made it through. The"Dark Lord Rising" showed one such example. When Yoda gives his "last of the Jedi shall you be" speech I think it was more for the one's he knew about. Darth Vader and Darth Sidious were considered Sith not Jedi. Yoda and Obi Wan considered Anakin dead after he turned to the Dark Side.
You can of course go into semantics here over Sith vs. Jedi, the FS and midichlorian stuff and all that. But at this point it might be better to clasify what "Jedi" represents.
Is Jedi: (My Opinions)
- Trained force power user - Yes, trained at the Jedi Temple
- Follower of Yoda - Him or who ever headed the Jedi Council
- Member of Jedi Council - No, not a requirement. Only Jedi Masters were allowed n the Concil (except for Anakin)
- Anyone with midichlorian count higher than their shoe size - I never liked that midichlorian thing, but I took it as a requirement to get in after seeing Ep.1
- Anyone who has learned /forceChoke2 - LOL, just Sith
- Someone who wields LS - Part of the requirement yes.
- A padawan - To start with, yes
Also, can Jedi status be revoked? Can it be lost? The dark Jedi vs. Sith...
Yup, Padame even mentioned it in Ep. 3 when Anakin said he didn't care who knew about their marriage. She specifically mentioned being removed from the order. I believe Obi Wan even mentioned it in Ep.2 when Anakin watched Padame fall off the ship and tried to order the clones to go back, Obi Wan intervened and I thought mentioned something about getting kicked out as a threat.
I consider Dark Jedi and Sith to be the same thing, just a new name for it. I know Sith were an actual race, but even Palpatine calls Vader a Sith when he first accepts him as an Apprentice.
It's all a big kettle of fish actually...
And always fun to discuss and debate
My comments are in yellow, more for fun than anything.
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