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Sassymolassy
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Dogs, of any kind, should never be left alone with a child. I hope this never is allowed to happen again. The guy lost his son and could possibly be sentenced to jail for murder.
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Unfortunately, it's not the first time an irresponsible dog owner caused injuries or death by not taking the proper precautions with their animal. And it probably won't be the last. Sad thing is, you can't even blame the dog. It's pure human stupidity that is easily avoided. No matter what, the dad will have to live with the knowledge of what his carelessness caused. Having a child myself, I couldn't imagine any prison being worse than that.
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I have a pitbull, who's six, and acts like a puppy all the time.
Wanna know why?
Because we trained him properly and give him all of the attintion he needs daily, just like any other dog.
Are they a aggressive breed? Yes. Can they be trained properly to not act aggressive? Yes. Do your own research.
Its the owners fault, not the dogs. They wanted to play with the boy, and most likely didn't even realize that they were killing him. He was one right? Thats a tiny baby, a fucking cat would be able to kill him if it played too rough as well.
And other dogs attack humans unprovoked as well, not just Pit Bulls. For fucks sake, Dobes, Rotties and German Shepards do it just as much. Should they be illlegal too? No.
Train your dogs properly. If you can't handle having a natural born aggressive dog, let alone four, than don't even bother getting them.
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Heres some interesting facts supporting Pit Bulls as the worst offenders in dog attacks.
According to "Fatal Dog Attacks, the Stories Behind the Statistics," by Karen Delise there were 431 deaths because of dog attacks in the years from 1965 to 2001. Children 12 younger were the victims in 79 percent of the fatal attacks.
Pit bull and pit mixes account for 21 percent of all human fatalities, while mixed breed dogs account for 16 percent and other nonspecified breeds, 15 percent.
Funny thing is, NO CHARGES WAS PRESSED ON THE WOMAN. I don't know, but if I was that old lady I'll but that hot chick in jail.
I own a wrottwiler and we trained her to be a great dog, even though she is protective. When we walk Sheba we are aware of her surroundings, not anyone to come near or bother her and never leave her alone out of her cage. Stuff like that.
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Careless people should not be allowed to handle such creatures.
But making it illegal is just down right stupid. It isn't the dogs fault people are morons and don't know how to handle it properly and give it the attintion it needs.
When I take Smoke ( He's a white pit bull. Not my dog, my brothers, he chose it, but I take care of him too and love him as much as my cats ) out for walks, I make sure I'm always between him and any other dog, human or animal. And I make sure he doesn't get to stare at anything smaller than him for too long either. ( never allow them to do that, they may get the idea in their head that it's a new toy )
Pitbulls can be great, loveling and kind friends. IF they are trained and handle the correct way, and given the attintion they need and deserve.
So I blame the owner for being a careless asshole. He shouldn't of been allowed to own the dogs in the first place.
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I don't think it should be illegeal for PitBulls to be in ceartin places. I think there should be a license for it. If people had to go though a license we will see who's really willing to take care of one properly and who isnt.
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I dont know about having to get a liscense. Like I said, "every dog" has the potential to bite. We had the Beagle, that bit my son, for 3 years and it had Never bitten or even been agressive against any human. The un written rule should be "never leave any child alone with any dog, EVER." No matter how loving, cute or playful you think they are, they are still just dogs.
btw- anyone watch the dog whisperer? This guy is completely amazing!
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Speaking of Beagles, thats a breed my mom and dad had when I was 3. They would never leave me alone with it because it would attack me because it was jealous of my attention. It tried to bit me one time but thankfully I had a wiffle bat with me. Poor dog.. Lol I gave it a right good beating.
In anycase I tend to aggree there needs to be accountabilty for your pets actions. If you plan on owning a aggressive breed then you should accept that your going to be more liable to conflicts. I dont like laws being in place enforcing what I can do. I do like laws kicking your arse if you do wrong. I guess lastly, the best animal I ever knew as a example of a exception to a rule was a wolf my friend owns. That animal treats childern like its own for some reasons. It attacks snakes, rabbits and anything coming near any child. Very strange. Something happend to the poor wolfs puppies 10 years ago and has never been the same agian. Suffice it we dont allow it near babies and such, but when we go to the desert we always bring it along to keep rattlers away from the 5 and ups.
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Ok, Im gonna post a pick, gimme a sec. I think you will decide differently about Beagles.
So luckily my husband and I were standing right there when this happened. This is a dog that had never showed aggression towards the baby (or anyone) before. We think it happened because we had just cooked roast and occasionally in the past we would give the dog a few bites. The baby was on the floor crawling near the dog. The dog saw the baby as possible competition for the rare treat (roast) and attacked. It wasnt just a warning nip, or play that went too far. When my husband rushed to remove the dog from off the baby the baby was dragged a few feet becasue the dog woulndt let go. Instinct had settled in and the dog was in full attack mode. All breeds, all dogs can get this way. Instinct is stronger than all the niceness we think we instill by being loving owners.
Dont relax your rules or vigilence because you think you dog is just too friendly. Thats what we thought too. Can you imagine what might have happened if we hadn't been standing right there.Dont go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. (Mark Twain)
Its surprising that some people find this story shocking. The Pit Bull has had a notorious reputation for unprovoked attacks. People will try and blow smoke up your ass by saying things like, The dog was mistreated, Not all Pit bulls are like that, My Pit bull is six years old and acts like a puppy. This is complete bull shit and anyone who thinks this breed has any reason to continue is absolutely in denial. The way this dog has been breed is to kill pure and simple.
I always keep an eye out for these bastards when walking my dog in public. Why? Because anyone stupid enough to own one of these obviously doesnt know shit about the breed. Time and time again you hear of sad stories like the child that was maliciously killed.
For those of you that own this sad breed of dog, put yourself it the shoes of some people who have lost children and loved ones over a pit bull attack. Can you imagine the horror the victims faced as they were basically chewed alive for no reason? The entire species should be euthanized to extinction. I, for one am personally happy to see some states introducing legislation to make these damn things illegal to own.
Mans best friend? Google pit bull attacks and you make the call.
congrats mr 3 posts, for a very educated response.
psycheeee.
anyways, in one of my coms classes, a guy had a really good presentation on pit bulls. sure they're agressive dogs and can be pushed easily, but just because people have one doesn't make them stupid. any dog has the ability to attack a human.
i used to have a mutt dog that was some kind of lab/retreiver/spaniel mix. he was real great and had never bitten anyone or anything, but one day he got out of our fence and into the neighbors yard. since our neighbor was dumb, she tried to grab his collar by his throat (underneath his chin)and pull him back. needless to say he went buck wild on her and we had to put him down.
if i was the dog, i would have done the same thing. any animal can be pushed to be agressive just like any person can. i don't think there should be a ban on any dog. it really IS the owner's fault. if they know they have an agressive dog, they should keep it away from potentially bad situations.
a license for some breeds is a great idea. that would ensure the people that have them know how to handle them properly and everything. that doesn't mean that there would be 0 dog attacks in the future, but it would definitely cut down on the number. i think some people want pit bulls because they're 'badass junkyard dogs'. these people don't know what they're getting into and that's 90% of the problem.
I most likely know about the PitBull than you do. Do you even own one? No? Didn't think so.
A dog is a dog is a dog. ANY dog can kill ANYONE. ( Aside from the Toy dogs, but they can hurt a child and baby easily though as well. )
Are Pits more agrressive? Duh, as you said, they were bred to be killers. BUT Pit fighting is illegal now as it is.
And just because they were bred to kill when they were first being introduced doesn't mean they don't know how to act like loyal friends. For fucks sake, it's still a domestic animal!
IF the dog is trained the correct way and given the attintion it deserves, it will be one happy dog.
You'd have to be an asshole to think that a Pitbull is different from any other dog in that sense. It's still an animal.
So yea, I do stand by "Not all Pit Bulls are like that." Why? Because they arn't! You'd have to be a terrible owner to get ANY dog, yes even a Pit, to act that way.
Sadly we have morons that do illegal dog fighting, which is why the reputation of the Pit Bull is so horrible. Not because of someone's pet Pit Bull. But because of the ones that are treated like shit and trained to kill.
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Well, the forum just ate my post, so I'll just present a rebuttal for this utterly ignorant point.
According to cdc.gov:
From 1979-1988, 15 lives annually were claimed by dog attacks. Pit Bulls were responsible for 41.6%, almost three times more than German Shepards, the next most common breed.
From 1989-1994, there were 109 dog bite related fatalities. Of these, Pit Bulls once again led the pack with 22% of these deaths, while German Shepards were responsible for 10.9%.
Maybe you should be the one doing your own research.
Pit Bulls are unnecessarily dangerous and should be outlawed as domestic pets.
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While it might be true that pitbulls tend to be more teritorial towards smaller animals(babies) It is the parent's responsibility to not just let their little one run around while there is a pitbull in the house...when I was around three years old, my mom made the same mistake, we had a pitbull that was usually only aggressive towards strangers, but for some reason she growled at me as I walked by her...It didn't take anything more than that for my mom to get rid of the dog. You don't take chances like that with your small child, at all, ever.
Lilith is right that dogs can be trained properly, but even with the best trained dog, one can never fully account for the fact that a dog is still an animal, and is still unpredictable to a certain extent. We have a bulldog that is nice as hell to everyone, but every now and then he growls at my sister...why? We don't really know...my sister has a history of dogs trying to bite her, so she might give off a pheramone of fear that the dogs can detect, and take advantage of...There is simply no accounting for everything that a dog will do, no matter the breed.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
That's funny, 'cause I own a pitbull, a purebred Shepherd, and a small terrier mix. And I'll tell ya now, if you were spending all your attention watching the pit, you'd never see the attack coming. Because my Shepherd is the aggressive one. It is, and always will be, how the person raises their animal. All dogs still carry killer instinct. It's called nature. From a Teacup Chihuahua to a Rottweiler, they all have the natural instinct to protect themselves and their property. I have a different philosophy when it comes to my dogs and dogs in general. I am my dogs teacher and caregiver. I am my dogs property, in their eyes. And they will protect me if need be. It is my job to teach them the difference between a threat and someone just saying "Hi". My front gate, which is almost 6 feet high, stays locked even when I am home so that noone can just walk in and get a nasty surprise. All of my dogs love my daughter, who will soon be 8, and have never tried to harm her. But I never leave her alone with them and I am also quite observant to make sure they don't get too playful, because even playing they could cause harm just by accident. I have had all of these dogs since they were puppies. The terrier is oldest at 19 and I don't expect her to last much longer, the shepherd is 8 and the pit is 6. I have not once had an incident with any of these dogs biting or hurting anyone (they have scared the crap out of a few unwanted people though
). That is because I realize that they are MY responsibility and so are their actions. So, as far as I'm concerned, you are wrong and your whole view of these animals is BS. Good day.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Smoke, who's six, still goes to behavioral classes twice a month. Just so he remember to behave when he should, like walking outside or when strangers come over. It gets settled into their minds for awhile, but it can also just wash away if you're too easy going on them, especially a Pit.
But this can go for any dog. It's just a reminder really, of who's in charge and what they should do and what they shouldn't do in certain circumstances.
Of course, I still think you should have a certain training level and license when owning a Pit Bull.
It isn't the dogs fault he/she was born a Pit Bull and hated by so many just for being that breed. It's not like they got to chose what breed of dog they were going to be, when they are hated so much from lack of education from people. Most just see a agressive dog that has the power to kill. But most dogs, standard sized and big, have the power to kill, not just them.
To be honest, Im glad we have Smoke. He was going to be put to sleep if someone didn't adopt him the day after we did. So we got him just in time, because no one wanted a Pitbull puppy that was abandoned on the side of the street. ( His first owners, when he was just like a month old, dropped him off on a side of a high way and drove off. Nice eh? -.- ) So he'd be dead if we didn't get him.
Why? Because he's a Pit Bull. But also a dog that just wants love, attintion, and yes, even respect. This is an animal that was once trained to kill, and that alone demands respect from anyone. And they deserve it, with the way people are treating them now.
Train your dog correctly, and you can have a best friend for life. But keep in mind, no dog, or friend is perfect. Just as humans have flaws we'll never get rid of, so do dogs. So do Pit Bulls, and it really isn't their fault.
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