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The "too much reading" crowd

RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961
Yea, only partially related, but sufficiently on topic.


It bugs me that I have to learn to make such complex builds to avoid
being mocked in PvP, and the skills never seem unique enough or
intuitive enough for me to learn by using them: I have to read all the
little descriptions.


I mean, seriously. Builds are what that game is about. There is nothing else.

Just like SWG was about virtual world, economy, living in the world, etc. What's with this "too much reading" generation.

Why do people love to grind for 3 months from 1 - 980, and be happy about it, as long as they don't need to make a single choice. Oh boy, 5 points in defense, or 5 points in offense. Ohmigosh, i'm befuzzled. Bleh, the game sucks.

But looking at that, it's becoming extremly easy to understand where SOE was coming from with NGE.

And yet, NGE failed. Isn't there a lesson there, that perhaps target game population isn't exactly what some would like to believe?



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  • XcathdraXcathdra Member CommonPosts: 1,027

    There are 2 types of players (well maybe more but we will use 2 for this)... Those that want a complesx in depth game that requires skill, thought, a steep learning curve...

    There are those who want to play this type of game and not have to start from the bottom and figure out how to work thier way up...

    I have never seen a game that completely or adequately combines both...

    They dropped the complex group for the instant group.. I would guess they did this thinking the complex group was a niche crowd, with the instant peeps as the majority...

    It blew up in their faces, plain and simple... All thats left is damage control, and to "tweak" the game to start to appeal back to the complex crowds...

    And before i get flamed, I am not knocking the latter group by anymeans.. Its a choice of playstyle....

    Again SOE wont learn their lesson.. They will not be able to "tweak" SWG enough to appease to both play styles...Not in its current form, with the current Lead Devs, and the current upper managment people at SOE OR LEC...

     

    Xcathdra

    Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
    Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
    Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

  • GunnyFisherGunnyFisher Member Posts: 65
    I am speachless...


    Have faith in God, believe in antimatter.

  • suskesuske Member Posts: 714

    why can't these fanbois just play counter strike and be happy?

    why does $oe have the need to chase these morons as subs and ruin the best IMMERSIVE game ever?

    i guess it was inevitable with the prequels. no buildup. no character development. just hack hack hack........ 

  • free2playfree2play Member UncommonPosts: 2,043

    Actually SOE kind of learned thier lesson, just a little late and a little funked.

    They listened to thier critics and not thier fans and ended up making a game for people that didn't like it and never would. Now we are the critics and they won't listen because the last time it blew up in thier face.

    This is the severe fall out from database marketing. It's too bad this community had to be the meat wagon to learn a hard lesson. I hope some day, someone brings the original back. It's small compensation for what has been imposed on a bunch of gamers.

  • sienosieno Member Posts: 119



    Originally posted by free2play

    Actually SOE kind of learned thier lesson, just a little late and a little funked.
    They listened to thier critics and not thier fans and ended up making a game for people that didn't like it and never would. Now we are the critics and they won't listen because the last time it blew up in thier face.
    This is the severe fall out from database marketing. It's too bad this community had to be the meat wagon to learn a hard lesson. I hope some day, someone brings the original back. It's small compensation for what has been imposed on a bunch of gamers.




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       have you read the $oe  forums there not listening to there fans either   I wonder if sighn language would work ??

    You want loot? Go kill some npcs, you wanna visit hades? come find ME, and dont forget to bring coins for the ferryman,

  • dcopeukdcopeuk Member Posts: 24



    Originally posted by suske

    why can't these fanbois just play counter strike and be happy?
    why does $oe have the need to chase these morons as subs and ruin the best IMMERSIVE game ever?
    i guess it was inevitable with the prequels. no buildup. no character development. just hack hack hack........ 



    Just coz you play counter strike dosnt meen you automatically love the NGE, i played FPS since doom on my 486 upto and including BF 2142 and most inbetwen, and i cant play the nge, it sounded good when it was proposed and i resubbed at the time to check it out( had been playing for almost 2 years buy then, also my first MMO), but only lasted 2 days into the publish, it was that bad. please dont tarnish the FPS games or FPS gamers with the NGE and NGE players. and I aint no kiddie im 30:(
  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832
    The NGE is not a FPS, those that say it is never played a FPS.

    "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  • dcopeukdcopeuk Member Posts: 24



    Originally posted by BaronJuJu
    The NGE is not a FPS, those that say it is never played a FPS.


    Too true, if it had been, it would have been my wettest dream come true!, allways loved exploring about in fully zoomed/fps mode, just couldnt play that way, only for travel.

     

    Side note, Why wasnt jediknight 2 also sub-titled darkforces 3? * just wondering.:)

  • zabrakwithzabrakwith Member Posts: 62

     

    To sum it up:

    Pre-NGE: no SOE forum account , no reading, no guides, all fun.

    Post-NGE: SOE forum account, lots of reading, hate posts, guides, cancelled account.

     

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