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WoW R.I.P

According to statistics from blizzards last input of the number of players since the start. They have started to lose players by a total of 7% in past 3 months. According to the Inteviewers in Gamepro magazine, WoW has struggled to keep a good and fun standard for the players who couldnt make it to lvl 60. Apparently anyone who can't hit 60 was being back-handed because i mean who cares about noobs?

    So if you do still play WoW do you think if Burning Crusade doesnt do it for you are you done, will you venture to find a new game, The Wii? PS3? Or will you stay with your game until expansion 2 " World of Starcraft" I wish. The only problem with WoW now is. What is there to do when u have 6 lvl 60's all in tier 3 or close to it. NOTHING! Twinks are fun for 2 weeks, PvP dies once ur GM. The problem with WoW is, its completed. People have the best of the best and can do BWL without casting spells. Everyone knew WoW would hit rock bottom when Private Servers came out. We know that when someone enters one it is illegal but they do however offer World of Warcraft, as an instant lvl 60 or beyond. But that furthers my question

Is WoW Dead? Or is Burning Crusade that hyped that its millions of users will beg on their hands and knees to be 70?
Or will private servers beat out Burning Crusade and we will be seeing no more Queues for Servers, BG queues will be more then an hours. And Ganking as you know it will be gone. WoW will never have 0 users but how long will it last before another game, just is more interesting.



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  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188
    WoW is definitely not dead. I know some people who have played WoW for almost a year and they have 60 characters yet they still play. I wonder what there is to do image.


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  • MajorBiggsMajorBiggs Member UncommonPosts: 709
    I think its going to be a looong long long time before a battleship like WoW goes down.
  • FunKPandaFunKPanda Member Posts: 155
    WoW is not dead. Far from it. What's happening now, is the "Pre-Expansion Depression" guilds and people are quiting the game and saving time to do something else till the expansion comes out and all their "hard work" becomes "useless". I can pretty much garuntee that with the expansion, a good 5% of those people will be coming back and WoW will have its revitalization.


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  • LiddokunLiddokun Member UncommonPosts: 1,665

    WoW current subscribers 7.5 worldwide and just 6 months ago they hit the 6 million mark. At the rate of their growth it's very unlikely the game would die. I remember back then EQ hit the 500,000 subscriber mark back in 2003 and they were very happy about it and EQ is still alive and kicking.

    As for future games dethroning WoW as the king of the mmorpg, only time will tell but I highly doubt it.

  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787

    Originally posted by FunKPanda
    WoW is not dead. Far from it. What's happening now, is the "Pre-Expansion Depression" guilds and people are quiting the game and saving time to do something else till the expansion comes out and all their "hard work" becomes "useless". I can pretty much garuntee that with the expansion, a good 5% of those people will be coming back and WoW will have its revitalization.
    This is my sense as well. 

    Blizzard got itself a bit whipsawed by the combination of (1) the traditional Blizzard launch delay (which is much more of an issue in a game where people are paying per month to play) and (2) the major gameplay changes that are coming in the expansion and related live update.  Basically there were a lot of people who were expecting the expansion to be out around now (because Blizzard more or less led people to believe it would be 4Q06), but when Bizzard announced the delay (and all of the news starting poring out of the beta test), it created issues because TBC is just far enough away to be a significant delay yet not far enough away that doing the endgame things now in the game makes a lot of sense.  If the raiders and PvPers weren't looking at diminishing returns due to the new gear in the expansion and the wiping of honor at the same time, there would be more enthusiasm to play WoW right now, but as it is, it's diminishing returns.  And, in addition, many people do not want to level another character right now, but would rather wait for the new races and roll and level one of those.  So all around Blizzard got a bit caught out by telling people there would be all these changes and then saying they're going to be effective 2 months from now ...  it just created a massive incentive for people to stop playing until the expansion comes due to diminishing returns from their effort between now and then.

    A lot of other games have benefitted from this due to WoW people looking around and playing other games at this time.  There's clearly a risk for Blizzard that some of these people just decide to quit for good and don't come back in the expansion.  I still think that the expansion will draw a lot of people back to WoW who have left (and I mean the ones who left some time ago, not the ones who are taking a break) ... but the delay certanly created some risk for Blizzard, because in MMOs, once someone gets themselves out of the game for a while, the "spell can be broken", so to speak, and they are often not nearly as interested in getting back involved again.


  • SLizer6893SLizer6893 Member Posts: 194
    Ok let me rephrase my question.

    If Burning Crusade's hype isnt all its hyped up for do you think WoW will fail since its already been completed by so many?



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  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642
     WoW still R.I.P.-ping a new one to the competitors . Why would the OP think that WoW has a problem ( other then missing the Christmas rush with it Jan 17th street date)?

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  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490
    7% in 3 months, that isn't much is it? People naturally leave and join mmorpgs. I have temporarily suspended my account for instance, looking to see whether BC will improve things or not.


  • LiddokunLiddokun Member UncommonPosts: 1,665



    Originally posted by SLizer6893
    Ok let me rephrase my question.

    If Burning Crusade's hype isnt all its hyped up for do you think WoW will fail since its already been completed by so many?



    It's a fairly decent game and even above average than some of the crap that is coming out lately. Perhaps some people don't like it (you can't please everyone) but I don't think a game with 7+ million subscribers will fail. Hype or no hype WoW is a pretty good game.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    I think a decrease in WoW's playerbase is something that will happen over the next year-2 years. not really in the western part of WoW's playerbase, but in the eastern part. the eastern market is actually very unstable. Lineage 1 lost 800k subscribers in the first quarter of this years. 800 THOUSAND subscribers, gone. (source: http://www.cesspit.net/drupal/node/1465 ) the competition in the east is enormous.
  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    I think a decrease in WoW's playerbase is something that will happen over the next year-2 years. not really in the western part of WoW's playerbase, but in the eastern part. the eastern market is actually very unstable. Lineage 1 lost 800k subscribers in the first quarter of this years. 800 THOUSAND subscribers, gone. (source: http://www.cesspit.net/drupal/node/1465 ) the competition in the east is enormous.
    Yeah, I never really understood how many Eastern gamers actually played mmorpgs.

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    They just opened two new servers back in the west. It's still growing here.

  • Originally posted by baff
    They just opened two new servers back in the west. It's still growing here.
    I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that as a measure of growth. 

    I also think many westerners are very tired of WoW, but I think they will still buy BC anyway.


  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    WoW is far from dead.I don't believe it still has 7m subs but with the chinese market who knows.

    I think it still has much more then any other mmorpg in the market but its EU/NA market will struggle badly when WAR and vangard hits the shleves assuming they are fun games ofc.As it is everyone i know who still plays WoW is waiting for this games more then the expansion.

     

  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870



    Originally posted by nomadian
    7% in 3 months, that isn't much is it? 


    Work out 7% of 6 million, its a lot.
  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386


    Originally posted by Flem
    Originally posted by nomadian 7% in 3 months, that isn't much is it?
    Work out 7% of 6 million, its a lot.

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  • ShazzelShazzel Member Posts: 472
    Any game built around "items" and "raids" instead of gameplay will fail eventually. Both have their place in MMORPG but the industry thinks by keeping us raiding we'll keep dishing out monthly fee's.  People and gamers mature and this "Groundhog day" gaming isnt fun.
  • h4x0rn4bsk1h4x0rn4bsk1 Member Posts: 82

    I just got my account, with a trial card, my friend gave it for my birthday. I first wanted to buy GW Nightfall, because that's a good and cheap MMO. But now I play WoW, I don't want it anymore. I think I'm going to buy a gamecard once in a while, and keep playing. I can't compare it with GW ofcourse, but I don't need to.

    I still see alot of newbies, new accounts and stuff, most of them from the mid-east and south-america, because there the game was realeased much later. And when Burning Crusade comes out, some guys I know will buy it and play on their old accounts which they didn't used for like 3 months.

    I think it's hard to get WoW 'dead'. Compare it with Counter Strike, it's a great game, and still very popular, maybe WoW will be the same. Anyways, those games are both classics, WoW too, already.

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  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490



    Work out 7% of 6 million, its a lot.
    Yeah but you hardly expect 100% of subscribers staying over 3 months. There will people leaving. What I'm curious to know is that 7%, simply 7% of people have left, or has the total population gone down by 7% ie not counteracted by new players.

  • TyilinTyilin Member Posts: 104



    Originally posted by MajorBiggs
    I think its going to be a looong long long time before a battleship like WoW goes down.



    *agrees*

     

    I dont think you will be able to call WoW 'Dead' for a long time to come. The beauty of MMORPG's is that they can be updated and have new content brought in nearly at the drop of a hat, If the main issue is that players arent getting to level 60 and leaving then the dev team will modify middlegame for WoW. even if the playerbase has dropped by 7% how many players are still playing!!! lol

    I think that as long as they dont try to overcompensate for the loss and (potentionaly) ruin the game WoW players have nothing to fear.. ;)

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  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440



    Originally posted by Gameloading
    I think a decrease in WoW's playerbase is something that will happen over the next year-2 years. not really in the western part of WoW's playerbase, but in the eastern part. the eastern market is actually very unstable. Lineage 1 lost 800k subscribers in the first quarter of this years. 800 THOUSAND subscribers, gone. (source: http://www.cesspit.net/drupal/node/1465 ) the competition in the east is enormous.


    No surprise if you ask me, Granado Espada was released in Korean and Japan in the 1st quarter 2006.  I am pretty certain the game appeals to the same crowd.

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  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857



    Originally posted by nomadian





    Work out 7% of 6 million, its a lot.

    Yeah but you hardly expect 100% of subscribers staying over 3 months. There will people leaving. What I'm curious to know is that 7%, simply 7% of people have left, or has the total population gone down by 7% ie not counteracted by new players.




    Its the latter, a hell of a lot more than 7% have left over time, I can guarantee that much.

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  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    WoW isn't fun in the long run. It's just that everyone have to "feel-the-hype" that has been drawn over WoW. I am 100% sure there are very many leaving after only a couple of months. Not all players are hardcore korean mass-grinders by heart.

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  • IthurielIthuriel Member CommonPosts: 179
    Well, I think when BC comes the portion of the population that plays pallys will significantly decrease.  Their new armor set looks like Robocop had sex with Barney the dinosaur and had some foul, disfigured, evil bastard child.  Maybe that's why they're letting horde play pallys with BC, they figure they gotta do something to keep the class in the game.
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