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lol about the exodus poll

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  • viciousexeviciousexe Member Posts: 123

    Wow, even if the mod was just browsing the forums and not representing mmorpg, its still a pretty rude thing to say, and a very general and unfair statement.

  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961



    Originally posted by SODAofBRIA

    Paratrooper..You're not doing so well in my preliminary polls...image
    Of course, these exit polls have a tendency to be inaccurate.



    Ugh... Gotta hate making a post to accidentally delete it all right before posting.

    Im not too worried. So far in my opinion no one in this thread has made a real point towards me. All I see is people getting upset because they think Im insulting them when I actually haven't.

    "now hang on, so anyone who uses the Vet Refuge is like the OP?
    Would you please care to explain that statement a little further before you insult every user of the Vet forum?"

    There wasn't an insult in the first place. Your pretty much saying you think the OP is X and I've said everyone else is X even though I think Z. It's only going to insult people who want to assume my thoughts which isn't a good idea.

    Of note are:

    HATE the NGE & SOE, but saying my posts are like the Op's or are unproductive is out of line. You represent MMORPG. We have EVERY right to be & post here, as stated by your boards OWN rules, to argue those points, and you saying otherwise is an insult to your users. This is the VET REFUGE, and a VAST majority of Vets agree with US.

    We are SWG refugees Paratrooper. I daresay no mmorpg-player has been treated as bad as we have. The activists such as myself are the ones who who help make games better for all. Pacifist should appreciate us not condemn us. 

    I don't think he's ever played the game.


    I didn't say his/her posts were like the OP's. I didn't say you don't have a right to post here nor argue any point(hey the thread is still here).

    Ok so you were treated badly by SOE and you think Im condemning you somehow? false. As for making games better for all I would be interested to hear that point (That is being 100% serious too if there is a story to it).

    And yes I have played the game. I still have the original old dusty box sitting amongst others on the desk here. One of the nicest game boxes I've seen actually. I was in the beta and played after release for a little while before moving on. Funnily enough even back then people were upset with SWG & SOE albeit for completely different reasons.

    *Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author... got sick of holding backspace.
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  • BlazinBladesBlazinBlades Member Posts: 1,214
    I am a little confused as to what he insult was towards those who use this forum. Bring it on down now.

    Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.

  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961
    There wasn't one. People are just assuming they know what I think as I said in my last post.

    *Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author... got sick of holding backspace.
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  • TamalanTamalan Member Posts: 1,117



    Originally posted by ParaTrooper

    We all know everyone trys to stay away from that forum [SWG Vet] except for people such as yourself [Rude Troll OP] pretty much.



    You still havent explained what this meant, because if it isnt insulting most of the vet posters, what exactly is it saying?

    If I have read this wrong then please enlighten me as to the true meaning behind this comment?

  • StraddenStradden Managing EditorMember CommonPosts: 6,696

    Ok guys,

    I think tempers have gotten a bit out of hand here and now everything that anyone is saying is being taken as an insult.

    I apologize to anyone who was insulted by what Paratrooper said who was not breaking our rules by creating multiple accounts, flaming and making personal attacks. If that wasn't you, then I'm sure that nothing was directed at you.

    I hope that some of the people in this thread can see things from our perspective, and see that it is very difficult to come into one particular forum every day and see yourself and your co-workers ripped to pieces. Doesn't make shooting back a good thing, but at least it offers a reason. Please understand that when you are constantly, for example, accused of being a fanboi, and biased over a game that you have never played, it can get very frustrating.

    Statistics are what brings the moderators in here so often. There are more offences committed in this forum than in any other on our site. No, we don't catch everything, and for that I'm sorry. If there is a percieved bias against the folks in this forum, I am also sorry. It's not based out of an opinion on what happened. If there is a bias, it's because of the number of offences that happen here on a daily basis. That DOES NOT make it right, and we are trying to fix it.

    I, and the other moderators also realize that there are a large number of people here who do not abuse our rules. To you, I sincerely apologise. Sometimes it's hard to see the forest through the trees.

    Hope that clears things up

    Cheers

    Jon "Stradden" Wood

    Cheers,
    Jon Wood
    Managing Editor
    MMORPG.com

  • BlazinBladesBlazinBlades Member Posts: 1,214

    You have got to be kidding me. I can’t believe you guys. Bring it on down now.

    Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.

  • BlazinBladesBlazinBlades Member Posts: 1,214



    Originally posted by Stradden

    Ok guys,
    I think tempers have gotten a bit out of hand here and now everything that anyone is saying is being taken as an insult.
    I apologize to anyone who was insulted by what Paratrooper said who was not breaking our rules by creating multiple accounts, flaming and making personal attacks. If that wasn't you, then I'm sure that nothing was directed at you.
    I hope that some of the people in this thread can see things from our perspective, and see that it is very difficult to come into one particular forum every day and see yourself and your co-workers ripped to pieces. Doesn't make shooting back a good thing, but at least it offers a reason. Please understand that when you are constantly, for example, accused of being a fanboi, and biased over a game that you have never played, it can get very frustrating.
    Statistics are what brings the moderators in here so often. There are more offences committed in this forum than in any other on our site. No, we don't catch everything, and for that I'm sorry. If there is a percieved bias against the folks in this forum, I am also sorry. It's not based out of an opinion on what happened. If there is a bias, it's because of the number of offences that happen here on a daily basis. That DOES NOT make it right, and we are trying to fix it.
    I, and the other moderators also realize that there are a large number of people here who do not abuse our rules. To you, I sincerely apologise. Sometimes it's hard to see the forest through the trees.
    Hope that clears things up
    Cheers
    Jon "Stradden" Wood



    What in the world are you guys apologizing for, you nor Paratrooper said nor did anything that was wrong. I understand why you are apologizing, but your apology is not going to change anything Stradden. This forum is the worst forum in MMORPG.COM, it is filled with nothing but whining, complaining, trolling, fighting, arguing, and ignorance, and yet here you are apologizing for something that neither you nor any other Mod did wrong. Stradden many posters that use this forum regularly do not come here to vent their frustrations or anything like that, if they did, the forum would be filled with different threads instead of the generic typical ones that you see all the time everyday, just with a different name.

     

    The truth is some posters come here for one reason and one reason only, to cause problems, to fight, to argue, to flame, that is all, many will not like hearing that but I am only telling it like it is. Many posters think that MMORPG.COM is giving into pressure from SOE; they actually believe this myth no matter how stupid it really sounds. No matter what you or Paratrooper or any other Mod post, it is always going to be taken out of context for what was said and or re worded in order to suit the needs of the poster, this is done for the sole purpose of trying to prove their point and to troll and cause problems. I am sorry that you have issued this apology Stradden, I do understand why you did, but I wish you guys had stuck to your guns; you need to actually stick up for yourselves. If posters are going to get pissed off and have their little hissy fits, then let them, if they don’t like things then they can leave, believe me you don’t want them around anyways. As I said, you have nothing to neither apologize for nor do Paratrooper; any person with common sense realizes this all total bull shit.

     

    You know, I actually use to feel for former players of SWG, I in fact understand how it is since my game was changed too, but to be honest with you, this has gone past that now, now this is all turning into nothing but a whinny little pissy ass bitching session, and to be honest its very embarrassing to see what is happening to the old reputation, it is also very sad. Bring it on down now.

    Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.

  • ShadowLordsShadowLords Member Posts: 186



    Originally posted by BlazinBlades
    What in the world are you guys apologizing for, you nor Paratrooper said nor did anything that was wrong. I understand why you are apologizing, but your apology is not going to change anything Stradden. This forum is the worst forum in MMORPG.COM, it is filled with nothing but whining, complaining, trolling, fighting, arguing, and ignorance, and yet here you are apologizing for something that neither you nor any other Mod did wrong. Stradden many posters that use this forum regularly do not come here to vent their frustrations or anything like that, if they did, the forum would be filled with different threads instead of the generic typical ones that you see all the time everyday, just with a different name.
     
    The truth is some posters come here for one reason and one reason only, to cause problems, to fight, to argue, to flame, that is all, many will not like hearing that but I am only telling it like it is. Many posters think that MMORPG.COM is giving into pressure from SOE; they actually believe this myth no matter how stupid it really sounds. No matter what you or Paratrooper or any other Mod post, it is always going to be taken out of context for what was said and or re worded in order to suit the needs of the poster, this is done for the sole purpose of trying to prove their point and to troll and cause problems. I am sorry that you have issued this apology Stradden, I do understand why you did, but I wish you guys had stuck to your guns; you need to actually stick up for yourselves. If posters are going to get pissed off and have their little hissy fits, then let them, if they don’t like things then they can leave, believe me you don’t want them around anyways. As I said, you have nothing to neither apologize for nor do Paratrooper; any person with common sense realizes this all total bull shit.
     
    You know, I actually use to feel for former players of SWG, I in fact understand how it is since my game was changed too, but to be honest with you, this has gone past that now, now this is all turning into nothing but a whinny little pissy ass bitching session, and to be honest its very embarrassing to see what is happening to the old reputation, it is also very sad. Bring it on down now.



    First off. practice what you preach. You don't like it you TOO can also leave.

    Second, your entire post sounds EXACTLY like a whinny little pissy ass bitching session.

    and lastly, Tho I do agree that there has been a few people that have seem to have taken some things a little too personal. I have even called for one of them to "just go away" as we would all be better off. But your tirade isn't ANY better.

    BTW, I haven't spoken up about Paratroopers posts as I didn't think they were too far out there. (I have seen worse from other people) But, he certainly could have worded a couple of things better.

    "Bring it on down now."

  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961

    I should point out that I've only deleted those posts because creating multiple accounts to break the RoC and avoid bans on other accounts is not allowed. This will result in perma/ip bans and isn't anything new.

    *Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author... got sick of holding backspace.
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  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961



    Originally posted by dontchat3 
    .....
    You know you have made my point better then i could have ever dreamed of. You ban just for the hell of it and make up whatever you feel is convienant to do so even when i do nothing wrong then post a disagreeing post i hope you continue to do so and i hope you insult more and attack it just more fuel on the fire....

    Why cant u just be equal and fair? I mean seriously?





    Actually you make my point better. What can you not understand about the fact that you are breaking the RoC and getting banned? Each time you create another account to get out of another ban is breaking the RoC. Is it fair and equal to let someone breaking the RoC get away with it when we deal with everyone else in another way? Heck no. You are actually asking me to be biased, unfair and not equal and It's not going to happen.

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  • VastarVastar Member Posts: 176

     ParaTrooper, that line about the folks in this forum was pretty messed up. I believe you didn't mean it the way it ended up sounding though. I would just point out that this group has been through SOE and back. If we were found to be hypersensitive about this kind of thing, it woudln't surprise me.

     I saw it mentioned that this forum requires more care than the others. Perhaps a little more thought about what is done here should be part of that care if the goal is effective moderation.

     Oh yeah, for the record the OP is a bit out in left field. (=


  • jrgambitjrgambit Member Posts: 157
    Sadly, with the complete lack of activity in this forum (its dead now), posts likes these are they only entertainment here.

    Too bad really, im sure swg vets used to bring alot of hits to the site, which mmorpg.com could then use to lure advertisers by saying how many hits per day they get.

    Oh well.



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    WOW - Retired
    Playing WAR

  • BogdawsonBogdawson Member Posts: 202
    sorry but i think this site goes where the money is, jmho. i could be wrong but i'm often not
  • LeasaLeasa Member Posts: 449

    Paratrooper, sorry but I think your post was a bit insulting to those of us that post here.

    However you do realize that you set this area of the forum to allow us to vent our frustration at SOE so you should not be surprised at the posts you see here.

     

    Support Bacteria, its the only culture some people have.

  • BogdawsonBogdawson Member Posts: 202



    Originally posted by Bogdawson
    sorry but i think this site goes where the money is, jmho. i could be wrong but i'm often not


    but see the problem is they are backing game companies that produce crappy games, for the ad money, but when this site loses all the posters, these game companies will pay less for ad space. Either you're for the fans or the ad money, very hard to be both. So Get Real. 
  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832



    Originally posted by Bogdawson



    Originally posted by Bogdawson
    sorry but i think this site goes where the money is, jmho. i could be wrong but i'm often not

    but see the problem is they are backing game companies that produce crappy games, for the ad money, but when this site loses all the posters, these game companies will pay less for ad space. Either you're for the fans or the ad money, very hard to be both. So Get Real. 


    You commented on your own post? Or just forget to switch accounts?

    "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666

    Originally posted by BaronJuJu
    Originally posted by Bogdawson
    Originally posted by Bogdawson
    sorry but i think this site goes where the money is, jmho. i could be wrong but i'm often not
    but see the problem is they are backing game companies that produce crappy games, for the ad money, but when this site loses all the posters, these game companies will pay less for ad space. Either you're for the fans or the ad money, very hard to be both. So Get Real. 
    You commented on your own post? Or just forget to switch accounts?

    Sometimes you have to agree with yourself, because no one else will. I do it all the time, and doesn't everyone have more than one account?


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  • KzinKillerKzinKiller Member Posts: 625

    Originally posted by Shayde
    Wow.. could the OP and his various clones be MORE of an asshole?

    Only with 'MMORPG Staff' under his name ...

    I'm not suggesting that either Stradden or Paratrooper's conduct in this thread was in remotely the same ballpark of boneheadedness as the OP, let's be clear ... but the reader does not have a standard of professionalism to hold themselves to.  Staff does.  This whole thread should be in a PowerPoint at MMORPG for an internal moderator training "What NOT To Do In A Topic At Our Forums".

    Should have been locked after Stradden's apology.  Just acknowledge there was some unprofessional moderator behavior that fanned the flames instead of extinguishing them and move on.

    Don't put "Staff" in your signature with a disclaimer that what you say isn't necessarily MMORPG's opinion ... what a load of patronizing putrescent pablum.  Everything that somebody with the title 'Staff' says directly reflects on MMORPG and if you don't understand that, somebody needs to get the message across.

    'Nuf said.

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  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961

    Edited post.

    *Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author... got sick of holding backspace.
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  • ShadowLordsShadowLords Member Posts: 186



    Originally posted by ParaTrooper

    Edited post.



    Well this sure don't look good.

    Made a post that you thought twice about? I have been trying to hang in there by trying to see both sides ... but this is making you lose points in my eyes ... at least for me it is.

    MMORPG.com is in a tough spot. Like I have said before, there is ALOT of people that come here to the SWG forums to see what is going on. The SWG forums have SIGNIFICANTLY more anti NGE and anti $OE people here than fanbois. Add to it the contorversy surrounding SWG and others "curiosity" factor, and you are getting some nice exposure to other MMO games here. Those companies are benefiting from former SWG players looking at their game is a marketing plus for MMORPG.com. (just yesterday I looked at a couple in Developement. Stargate Worlds caught my eye.)

    $OE may be threatening to pull their advertising money out of here ... who knows ... I sure don't. But if it were me? (which it isn't) I would find a diplomatic way to say, "That is your choice." Now if $OE did infact pull their advertising money from this site .. the ENTIRE MMO world would know and it would have a worse effect on $OE. I mean really let's face it, $OE can not get any better exposure from any other MMO site, that I am aware of. Maybe the pressure from the Refugee forum is drawing too much negativity to $OE and it is effecting their ability to sell their product?

    Of course this is all speculation and no one really knows except the Staff here and $OE. One thing is for sure tho ... if MMORPG.com is friendly to the Refugees from SWG ... that could potentially be a HUGE subscriber list that can be used for marketing purposes. (Which would make all the other MMO's VERY happy.)

  • ShadowLordsShadowLords Member Posts: 186



    Originally posted by imhoire2

     

    You are right. I should get a warning and you should get the IP ban. That is a trade I can live with.

    Myself and probably 90% of the people here are TIRED of your childish rants. It is time you grew up.

    If you are tired of all the BS here then GO AWAY!!!!!! Do NOT try and make this like you are the victim here ... you aren't. I know and YOU know what the rules are .... I post alot here too ... I'm not getting warnings or bans and there are MANY others here also that aren't getting them either. So obviously there is a BIGGER problem with YOU than with the Staff here.

  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666
    Other than being issued a warning for "almost" threatening someone in a post I haven't had any problems.... hey wait a min "almost" threatening someone?image



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  • BlazinBladesBlazinBlades Member Posts: 1,214

    WOW it’s really sad to see my post being validated by many posters in here. Bring it on down now.

    Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.

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