Huxley's an actual shooter game, your personal point and click skills over your character's stats. Tabula Rasa's an RPG in which it is vice versa. It isn't really possible to say which one is better without considering personal tastes and the fact that neither has had a public beta.
On top of that, we don't know yet how good the point and click implementations of both games are. Neither have we seen how well certain other things (lag, mob AI) work that will have an impact on the fun factor.
And that is just about combat, other things like crafting, trading and player housing are not considered yet. Those things ARE important, if I just want to shoot at things I can go play my favourite shooter. A MMORPG better had a bit more depth to its gameplay
In summary, I think only when the betas of both games are running we can say which is better.
It sounds like Tabula Rasa will be a variation on Neocron but with a 3rd person defailt rather than a 1st person default. And hopefully better feel for the thrid person.
This means that aim is more about target acquisition than actual aiming. I hope it does not have selection targeting though.
It has auto-lock on. So when you move your cross hairs near a target it will lock on that target. Damage done is calculated based on your skill, cover, whether you are moving etc.
Originally posted by gestalt11 It sounds like Tabula Rasa will be a variation on Neocron but with a 3rd person defailt rather than a 1st person default. And hopefully better feel for the thrid person.
This means that aim is more about target acquisition than actual aiming. I hope it does not have selection targeting though.
Neocron actually required some aiming. It was target acquisition by holding your crosshairs over the target, not a ballistics simulation as in Counterstrike. But that was still better than selection targeting, clicking some "attack" button and watching the fight.
BTW if you come from Neocron, you might want to watch Fallen Earth as well. And if there are news from Twilight War, that would be worth a look as well (but the bankruptcy of Smiling Gator and takeover by a Chinese company seems to have been quite a setback for TW).
Both are different but will pretty much be competition for each other. I'm glad Huxley is coming out the xbox 360 as well which i always thought Tabula Rasa should have done to it's a perfect market for the game .. nothing wrong with jumping into another market either
but i think both will be great in their own ways - I'm waiting for Tabula but sometimes it's hard to remember about it since information is so bare
wow thanks guys for replying to my question. I guess tabula will have more interactive then huxley. I guess ill stick to battle field 2142 for first person shooter in sci fi mode.
I have no urge to even try Huxley whatsoever. Twitch gameplay holds no interest over me. FPSs are fine, but not the bunny-hopping, speed-induced, caffeine-laden types.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
I have no urge to even try Huxley whatsoever. Twitch gameplay holds no interest over me. FPSs are fine, but not the bunny-hopping, speed-induced, caffeine-laden types.
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
I have no urge to even try Huxley whatsoever. Twitch gameplay holds no interest over me. FPSs are fine, but not the bunny-hopping, speed-induced, caffeine-laden types.
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Or - and I know this might be tough for you since it's so easy to jump to retarded conclusions on the net - it means I prefer a different style of game. I like the pace of more realistic games, as the idea of 200-300 pounds combined armor, weapons, and person bunny hopping makes me laugh too hard to take a shooter seriously.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
I have no urge to even try Huxley whatsoever. Twitch gameplay holds no interest over me. FPSs are fine, but not the bunny-hopping, speed-induced, caffeine-laden types.
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Or - and I know this might be tough for you since it's so easy to jump to retarded conclusions on the net - it means I prefer a different style of game. I like the pace of more realistic games, as the idea of 200-300 pounds combined armor, weapons, and person bunny hopping makes me laugh too hard to take a shooter seriously.
Agian I'll say this (since it seems like its hard for you to understand). Some FPS games have taken "Bunny hopping out" with the addition of loss of stamina..
But it seems like a person like you doesnt understand that concept and the fact that a person can hop around at all is way to much for you..
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
TR didnt go all the way and make it a twitch based MMORPG because its not a FPS its a RPG and a twitch based RPG is just lame. If it was an actual FPS I would agree with you.
No your lame and so is Tab based (no skill required just push d button) combat is as well.
Twitch based combat is the future trust me on that one. Running around pushing buttons to select your opponet require no thought at all and are boring.
Just because some of you suck at it dont hate :P
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by Tinybina Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Well obviously the developers disagree with you. Hope you have fun playing Huxley.
I have no urge to even try Huxley whatsoever. Twitch gameplay holds no interest over me. FPSs are fine, but not the bunny-hopping, speed-induced, caffeine-laden types.
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Or - and I know this might be tough for you since it's so easy to jump to retarded conclusions on the net - it means I prefer a different style of game. I like the pace of more realistic games, as the idea of 200-300 pounds combined armor, weapons, and person bunny hopping makes me laugh too hard to take a shooter seriously.
Agian I'll say this (since it seems like its hard for you to understand). Some FPS games have taken "Bunny hopping out" with the addition of loss of stamina..
But it seems like a person like you doesnt understand that concept and the fact that a person can hop around at all is way to much for you..
I think I'll take your signature's advice. Yes, you pegged me. Everything you say is right. Let me add that you're also very smart.
Now, to the non-trolls reading here, I think Huxley will sell ok, being supported by both the PC and Xbox 360. I just don't think that its concept is very new and innovative compared to what is already out there. The twitch-based, Red Bull drinking crowd will always have its niche, but that style of gaming got old for me around UT 2003. I don't play to get the most l337 4rags, but to immerse myself in a game world. The speed of twitch games kills my suspension of disbelief enough to the point that I can't really enjoy myself for very long. I can play a round or three of team deathmatch, but then I long for something with more depth.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Well obviously the developers disagree with you. Hope you have fun playing Huxley.
Thank you im sure I will have a blast playing that game, the funny thing is im sure many of you will as well..
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Well I enjoy the occasional FPS game - Battlefield 2, the demo of BF 2142 etc , but its just not what I like to do most of the time. I want to be part of a story (RPG) - guess thats from role-playing in the old days - paper, pen, dice, imagination.
Well I enjoy the occasional FPS game - Battlefield 2, the demo of BF 2142 etc , but its just not what I like to do most of the time. I want to be part of a story (RPG) - guess thats from role-playing in the old days - paper, pen, dice, imagination.
But what if you could have both? I just don't understand why people think this is not possible.. Lets take the biggest RPG in the world 'LIFE' . It's not turned based and its not press 'tab' to highlight the target its basicly a first person shooter with twitch game play, where what you aim at (with your eys) is what you hit.. If I pick up a gun and shoot someone im aiming at them, im not highlighting them and then waiting for my attack que..
Bottom line is that FPS(twitch) gameplay is the future just like virtual reality is.. And when I finally do step in my virtual MMORPG 20 years from now, most likely its going to be Twitch type combat and not this auto attack que crap we see today.
I just don't understand why people seem to think that RGP and FPS games can not be one.. Expecially with all the MMOFPSRPG's comming out in the next few years.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
The problem is not that they think it can't be done, action RPGs have been around for a long time Dues Ex is an RPG/FPS hybrid that has been critically acclaimed, its more of a question of pacing. Some just don't want to play games that get the adrenaline pumping.
ah - I see the confusion - its not that I think it cant be done - I dont want both, I would rather role-play than FPS. And if I do decide I want an adrenaline fix there are plenty of games around to provide it.
I just want a sci-fi / rpg / MMO game.
I also enjoy RTS games - but I suck competitively so I play offline. Supreme Commander is coming out this year.
I also enjoy the action rpg - Hellgate London is coming out this year.
So all up I think this is going to be a great year for gaming.
Tabula and Huxley are very different. Huxley is FPS MMO with many of the trapping of a MMORPG. Tabula is more traditional MMORPG although it has a sci-fi setting. Both probably will be good but they will target very different things.
AS for RPG-FPS Hybrids, some of the best RPGs have been such games. System Shock 2 and Deus Ex both proved that RPGs with FPS Twitch mechanics can offer awesome gameplay and storylines that rival Planescape: Torment.
I have no urge to even try Huxley whatsoever. Twitch gameplay holds no interest over me. FPSs are fine, but not the bunny-hopping, speed-induced, caffeine-laden types.
same here. I wonder what part of it is actually MMO. I've seen videos and its no different then quake on UT deathmatch
I have no urge to even try Huxley whatsoever. Twitch gameplay holds no interest over me. FPSs are fine, but not the bunny-hopping, speed-induced, caffeine-laden types.
same here. I wonder what part of it is actually MMO. I've seen videos and its no different then quake on UT deathmatch
If you limited your judgment on a game to just a few videos you have seen then might I suggest to try to learn more about the game.
To each his own I guess for you people that like the turn based 'tab' combat over FPS style twitch gameplay. But mark my words 'Tab' auto attack combat is comming to a end, in 10 years or less (and remember I said this) most MMORPG games will have twitch based gameplay.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
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Huxley's an actual shooter game, your personal point and click skills over your character's stats. Tabula Rasa's an RPG in which it is vice versa. It isn't really possible to say which one is better without considering personal tastes and the fact that neither has had a public beta.
On top of that, we don't know yet how good the point and click implementations of both games are. Neither have we seen how well certain other things (lag, mob AI) work that will have an impact on the fun factor.
And that is just about combat, other things like crafting, trading and player housing are not considered yet. Those things ARE important, if I just want to shoot at things I can go play my favourite shooter. A MMORPG better had a bit more depth to its gameplay
In summary, I think only when the betas of both games are running we can say which is better.
Duh - Tabula Rasa of course
You could perhaps have worded your question better - maybe ask for a comparison of the two games or their features.
Huxley is a MMOFPS - Primarily a PvP FPS with some quests etc. Huxley will be available on PC and Xbox 360
Tabula Rasa is a MMORPG - Primarily a PvE RPG with a FPS feel.
So they are two completely different games. Yes both are Sci-fi, have battlefields.
And its WHICH not WICH.
This means that aim is more about target acquisition than actual aiming. I hope it does not have selection targeting though.
What do you mean by selection targeting?
It has auto-lock on. So when you move your cross hairs near a target it will lock on that target. Damage done is calculated based on your skill, cover, whether you are moving etc.
BTW if you come from Neocron, you might want to watch Fallen Earth as well. And if there are news from Twilight War, that would be worth a look as well (but the bankruptcy of Smiling Gator and takeover by a Chinese company seems to have been quite a setback for TW).
Both are different but will pretty much be competition for each other. I'm glad Huxley is coming out the xbox 360 as well which i always thought Tabula Rasa should have done to it's a perfect market for the game .. nothing wrong with jumping into another market either
but i think both will be great in their own ways - I'm waiting for Tabula but sometimes it's hard to remember about it since information is so bare
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
TR didnt go all the way and make it a twitch based MMORPG because its not a FPS its a RPG and a twitch based RPG is just lame.
If it was an actual FPS I would agree with you.
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Or - and I know this might be tough for you since it's so easy to jump to retarded conclusions on the net - it means I prefer a different style of game. I like the pace of more realistic games, as the idea of 200-300 pounds combined armor, weapons, and person bunny hopping makes me laugh too hard to take a shooter seriously.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Or - and I know this might be tough for you since it's so easy to jump to retarded conclusions on the net - it means I prefer a different style of game. I like the pace of more realistic games, as the idea of 200-300 pounds combined armor, weapons, and person bunny hopping makes me laugh too hard to take a shooter seriously.
Agian I'll say this (since it seems like its hard for you to understand). Some FPS games have taken "Bunny hopping out" with the addition of loss of stamina..
But it seems like a person like you doesnt understand that concept and the fact that a person can hop around at all is way to much for you..
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
No your lame and so is Tab based (no skill required just push d button) combat is as well.
Twitch based combat is the future trust me on that one. Running around pushing buttons to select your opponet require no thought at all and are boring.
Just because some of you suck at it dont hate :P
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Well obviously the developers disagree with you. Hope you have fun playing Huxley.
Translated: I suck at aiming and need a crutch (Tab) to bail me out in fights.
Have to say im dissapointed that TR did not decide to go all out and make this a twitch based MMO. If you ask me its the future, and lets just keep in mind that not everyone who plays FPS games hopes around liek a rabbit, and for those that do some games have things in place that limit that(Stamina drain).
Or - and I know this might be tough for you since it's so easy to jump to retarded conclusions on the net - it means I prefer a different style of game. I like the pace of more realistic games, as the idea of 200-300 pounds combined armor, weapons, and person bunny hopping makes me laugh too hard to take a shooter seriously.
Agian I'll say this (since it seems like its hard for you to understand). Some FPS games have taken "Bunny hopping out" with the addition of loss of stamina..
But it seems like a person like you doesnt understand that concept and the fact that a person can hop around at all is way to much for you..
I think I'll take your signature's advice. Yes, you pegged me. Everything you say is right. Let me add that you're also very smart.
Now, to the non-trolls reading here, I think Huxley will sell ok, being supported by both the PC and Xbox 360. I just don't think that its concept is very new and innovative compared to what is already out there. The twitch-based, Red Bull drinking crowd will always have its niche, but that style of gaming got old for me around UT 2003. I don't play to get the most l337 4rags, but to immerse myself in a game world. The speed of twitch games kills my suspension of disbelief enough to the point that I can't really enjoy myself for very long. I can play a round or three of team deathmatch, but then I long for something with more depth.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
Well obviously the developers disagree with you. Hope you have fun playing Huxley.
Thank you im sure I will have a blast playing that game, the funny thing is im sure many of you will as well..
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Well I enjoy the occasional FPS game - Battlefield 2, the demo of BF 2142 etc , but its just not what I like to do most of the time. I want to be part of a story (RPG) - guess thats from role-playing in the old days - paper, pen, dice, imagination.
But what if you could have both? I just don't understand why people think this is not possible.. Lets take the biggest RPG in the world 'LIFE' . It's not turned based and its not press 'tab' to highlight the target its basicly a first person shooter with twitch game play, where what you aim at (with your eys) is what you hit.. If I pick up a gun and shoot someone im aiming at them, im not highlighting them and then waiting for my attack que..
Bottom line is that FPS(twitch) gameplay is the future just like virtual reality is.. And when I finally do step in my virtual MMORPG 20 years from now, most likely its going to be Twitch type combat and not this auto attack que crap we see today.
I just don't understand why people seem to think that RGP and FPS games can not be one.. Expecially with all the MMOFPSRPG's comming out in the next few years.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
ah - I see the confusion - its not that I think it cant be done - I dont want both, I would rather role-play than FPS. And if I do decide I want an adrenaline fix there are plenty of games around to provide it.
I just want a sci-fi / rpg / MMO game.
I also enjoy RTS games - but I suck competitively so I play offline. Supreme Commander is coming out this year.
I also enjoy the action rpg - Hellgate London is coming out this year.
So all up I think this is going to be a great year for gaming.
AS for RPG-FPS Hybrids, some of the best RPGs have been such games. System Shock 2 and Deus Ex both proved that RPGs with FPS Twitch mechanics can offer awesome gameplay and storylines that rival Planescape: Torment.
If you limited your judgment on a game to just a few videos you have seen then might I suggest to try to learn more about the game.
To each his own I guess for you people that like the turn based 'tab' combat over FPS style twitch gameplay. But mark my words 'Tab' auto attack combat is comming to a end, in 10 years or less (and remember I said this) most MMORPG games will have twitch based gameplay.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith