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Vanguard:Saga of Heroes rise to power (poll inside)

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes fans rejoice!  Iv found what your looking for! Now is the time to become apart of this franchise thats surly something destined for greatness.  Theres plenty of content for everyone to grab ahold of and below iv listed a few previews.

Iv followed this game a little more then some of the other mmorpgs that are up and coming around the bend and have a few urls/addys/webys of previews for those who dont wana spend to much time diging for this material. One is over at gamespy at http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/666/666602/vids_1.html. These are just your basic short in-game footage previews.  One of the more importand previews I came across just few weeks back that every Vanguard fan has to watch is over at http://vanguardvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Movies.Detail&id=43. This preview features the two head hanchoes Acquiring just about everything you want to know about your experience in Vanguard Online. 

 

The main web/addy/url for Vanguard by Sigil Games is over at http://www.vanguardsoh.com .  Some of the intriguing features that iv delved into so far with this outanding title is No instancing,crafting of houses/ships,character creation, and support for multiple party Dungeons.  On to the POLL!!!image

 

 

 

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  • eyceleycel Member Posts: 1,334

    I picked up a copy of Massive magazine a week ago.  Its a brand spanken new magazine.  Theres an article in it thats got some goodies on Vanguard:Saga of Heroes.  I quote "The atraction of Vanguard is very simple:Its old school online role-playing from the guy who gave you the original Everquest.  Brad McQuaid is the reason the game has a lot of people giddy with anticipation.  Brads the guy who specializes in tropes that are challenging(some would say sadistically so); the master of the corpse drag; the apostle of the death penalty;the champion of the"If it doesnt hurt to get it, its not worth anything' style of game design.  While saying that sigil wants to avoid tedium, Mcquaid is very clear on one thing: He thinks curent games are to easy.  Vanguards apeal, then, is largely to those who agree, who view World of Warcraft as MMO lite, and who react violently to every player aid added to games like everquest 2." 

    This title is rocking!  Some one said its going to take up 30 gigs! Thats half my laptops hardrive.  Ah well maybee ill just have to deleate some useless system processes or my "ALL PROGRAMS" folder or  better yet some of those pesky drivers people are always refering too.  Altho I cant complain much seemings how these new 1 terabyte hard drivers are aviailbe now for fairly cheap.  For people that dont know 1 terabyte is the equal to 1024 gigabytes as stated in only the best site/url/addy on the internet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

    A terabyte (derived from the prefix tera-) is a measurement term for data storage capacity equal to 1024 gigabytes, i.e. one trillion (short scale) bytes. It is commonly abbreviated TB.

    The number of bytes in a terabyte often varies in common usage originating from a discrepancy between the tradition to use binary prefixes for computer memory and the SI standard.

    According to the SI standard, a terabyte (TB) contains

    • 1,000,000,000,000 bytes = 10004 or 1012 bytes.

    According to traditional usage for computer memory a terabyte contains

    • 1,099,511,627,776 bytes = 10244 or 240 bytes.

    It is recommended to use the term tebibyte (TiB) for this latter amount.

    The capacities of computer storage devices are traditionally advertised using their SI standard values.

     

     

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  • WarspineWarspine Member Posts: 105
    omg such a whiner

    You accualy paid to read that?



  • Eagler777Eagler777 Member Posts: 89



    Originally posted by eycel

    Vanguard: Saga of Heroes fans rejoice!  Iv found what your looking for! Now is the time to become apart of this franchise thats surly something destined for greatness.  Theres plenty of content for everyone to grab ahold of and below iv listed a few previews.
    Iv followed this game a little more then some of the other mmorpgs that are up and coming around the bend and have a few urls/addys/webys of previews for those who dont wana spend to much time diging for this material. One is over at gamespy at http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/666/666602/vids_1.html. These are just your basic short in-game footage previews.  One of the more importand previews I came across just few weeks back that every Vanguard fan has to watch is over at http://vanguardvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Movies.Detail&id=43. This preview features the two head hanchoes Acquiring just about everything you want to know about your experience in Vanguard Online. 
     
    The main web/addy/url for Vanguard by Sigil Games is over at http://www.vanguardsoh.com .  Some of the intriguing features that iv delved into so far with this outanding title is No instancing,crafting of houses/ships,character creation, and support for multiple party Dungeons.  On to the POLL!!!image
     
     
     




    Uhh, I clicked on the second link here and I became very sad.. actually it ruined my day XD.  Seriously tho.. I downloaded it and its horrid.  The characters were crappy looking, the armor the weapons the mobs... all crappy lookng.. not to mention the fire magic the mage cast looked like spitballs from mario brothers or something XD.  The background looked good, almost like a picture or something, but I'd prefer the character movement and abilities and spells and stuff look better.  If this is what you poor EQ people have had to put up with, I feel for ya, looks like this game could have been made in 1990.. which is why it saddens me.. this is really the only upcoming game im looking forward to besides Darkfall and Trials of Accention, neither of which will actually ever be released. 

    Sometimes I hate that I played FFXI, it has ruined so many other games for me, because it spoiled me.  It's seriously just awsome, everything I could want in a game.. its just that after 3 years of playing, I'd like a lil bit of a mix up.  What I really wish is that SE would just come out with like FFXIII or somthing, that would be awsome.  I dunno what to do now, I got FFXI back to hold me off til Vanguard came out.. but I'm not playing something I think is poorly made.  If I have a cool sword, I want it to look cool.. same with armore and definatly mobs.  If I cast a fire spell.. dont throw a damn fireball that is just a orange blob at the mob XD.  I hope someone tells me that its just because they are not finished or somtning along those lines, because I would not enjoy a game I dont like to look at... Mario Brothers was fun, but after so many spit balls I would just jump on thier heads XD.

  • EliasThorneEliasThorne Member UncommonPosts: 338
    Downloaded pre or during beta3?

    Alot appears to have changed during B3.



    Currently Playing: GW2
    Currently Following: Elder Scrolls Online
    Games in my wake: Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asheron’s Call, Asheron’s Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW

  • eyceleycel Member Posts: 1,334

    Who can belive that this is actualy going to take up 30 gigs!  Thats insane.  Has there been any previous title that takes up half of this.  Iv yet to see it if there has.  Wow takes up nearly 4 gigs.. and SWG if i remeber correctly took like 2 and some change.  Im not sure what kinda  content there is that requires 30 gigs of space altho I did get a chance to check out some xtreamly tricked out beta content not to long ago right here on this forum and the level of detail is outstanding.  30  gigs outstanding iv yet to determine!

     

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  • ProtestProtest Member UncommonPosts: 159
    The retail game will not be 30g.

    Stop listening to people who have no idea what they are talking about.



    “We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time.”
    -T.S. Eliot

  • eyceleycel Member Posts: 1,334
    Iv read multiple post stating that the release will be somewhere in the vacinity of 22 to 30 gigs.  Anything over 10 is all the same to me...which is uncharted.

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  • NavidNavid Member Posts: 18
    thanks tayem i was just going to quote that

    -JNS

  • ProtestProtest Member UncommonPosts: 159

    Originally posted by Tayem
    http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1720812#post1720812 its going to be 18 gigs.
    Thank you. Its funny how folks will continually regurgitate nonsense without even attempting to aquire information that is freely available to anyone with half a brain to search. I love how, "I read somewhere" has become a credible and noteworthy source of information.

    As far as your issues with anything over 10g.. well.. I don't know what to tell you fella. You don't need to be a statistics expert or CS major to understand that as video games advance they tend to take up more disc space.  If you aren't prepared to handle this reality, perhaps you should look for a new hobby.. because it will only get worse for you. I promise.

    or.. you could always play Maple Story. I hear the client is a very reasonable size. image


    “We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time.”
    -T.S. Eliot

  • eyceleycel Member Posts: 1,334

    I supose all the terabyte hardrives being sold are giving reason for more hardrive space to be taken up in softwares.  But I only have a Laptop hardrive,not these mamoth server raid Hard drives. 

    18 or 30 gigs...its all the same...who can link me a game thats over 10 ? 

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  • TamalanTamalan Member Posts: 1,117
    Big client = lots of content and detail.

    and the problem with this is?
  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    Or it could mean bloated code that runs like garbage.

    Won't know till the game hits the shelves. Or until the NDA is lifted, and people start posting reviews, videos, etc.

  • ProtestProtest Member UncommonPosts: 159

    Originally posted by eycel
    I supose all the terabyte hardrives being sold are giving reason for more hardrive space to be taken up in softwares.  But I only have a Laptop hardrive,not these mamoth server raid Hard drives.  18 or 30 gigs...its all the same...who can link me a game thats over 10 ? 
    I'm not certain you understand.

    The size of video game clients has been growing steadily for over 3 decades now.

    If your setup can not handle a game.

    The problem is with your setup.

    Not with the game.

    Don't get me wrong.

    I would love to never have to upgrade my system.

    But when the time comes to upgrade.

    I will do it the dignified and emotionally mature way.

    No threads.

    Good luck to you in the future of Gaming.




    “We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time.”
    -T.S. Eliot

  • ProtestProtest Member UncommonPosts: 159

    Originally posted by Coldmeat
    Or it could mean bloated code that runs like garbage.Won't know till the game hits the shelves. Or until the NDA is lifted, and people start posting reviews, videos, etc.
    How would anyone be able to comment on the coding, before it has been optimized for retail release?

    We will know when the game hits shelves and not before.


    “We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time.”
    -T.S. Eliot

  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409


    Originally posted by Protest

    Originally posted by Coldmeat
    Or it could mean bloated code that runs like garbage.Won't know till the game hits the shelves. Or until the NDA is lifted, and people start posting reviews, videos, etc.
    How would anyone be able to comment on the coding, before it has been optimized for retail release?

    We will know when the game hits shelves and not before.



    Well, you seemed pretty certain that 10 tons of code = good. I was simply pointing out that it could also be bad.

    As to not knowing until the game hits the shelves, well, I believe I said that already. Though truthfully some of us will know before then, but that's neither here nor there.

  • ProtestProtest Member UncommonPosts: 159

    I think you might be reading into whatever certainties I may or may not hold.

    And 'some' of 'us' know how large a beta client is as opposed to a retail client. And how a debugging code differs from a retail code. And 'some' of 'us' could explain it better to you if 'some' of 'us' weren't explicitly bound by a very serious and binding NDA, but that my friend - truly is - neither here nor there.

    I'd love to continue this discussion when it becomes appropriate to do so.

    cheers.


    “We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time.”
    -T.S. Eliot

  • max2008max2008 Member Posts: 91
    Going to go and predict 500k-1m mark for vangard.It will swallow players from different mmorpg rather then create a new player base like WoW did.But it will take from WoW too.Lack of intrest in Asia over the game will stop it passing the 1m mark though.
  • _Shadowmage_Shadowmage Member Posts: 1,459


    Originally posted by Protest

    Originally posted by eycel
    I supose all the terabyte hardrives being sold are giving reason for more hardrive space to be taken up in softwares. But I only have a Laptop hardrive,not these mamoth server raid Hard drives. 18 or 30 gigs...its all the same...who can link me a game thats over 10 ?
    I'm not certain you understand.

    The size of video game clients has been growing steadily for over 3 decades now.

    If your setup can not handle a game.

    The problem is with your setup.

    Not with the game.

    Don't get me wrong.

    I would love to never have to upgrade my system.

    But when the time comes to upgrade.

    I will do it the dignified and emotionally mature way.

    No threads.

    Good luck to you in the future of Gaming.



    How about you actually read this guys post instead of picking on him. Hes not complaining about his crappy laptop, he is commenting that he thinks this is the first game that will use more than 10 gig of disk space.

  • eyceleycel Member Posts: 1,334
    At least Vanguard gave us a great tutorial of whats to come with this outstanding title in the form of a video with commentary.  I think this title will turn out to be something great with the focus heavily on crafting/raid dungeons thats yet to be seen in a mmorpg.  Can any one give us some more insight into what the raiding system is going to be like/what to expect?

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  • mehhemmehhem Member Posts: 653
    Top 5, no matter how much we scream Vanguard still has to compete with WoW.  Also you have to factor in new MMO's coming out. LotRO, AoC, WAR, also EQ2 and EVE are competing as well.  It will be interesting to see what happens in the future Q2....image


  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    LotRO will tank. Well, relative to what the expectations are for the LotR IP.

    It's DDO with an overmap.

    Vanguard will not really be competing with WoW. Yes, there are some mmo vets that will leave WoW for the new shiney. Moreso the high end raid guilds, in all likelyhood. Will they stick around? Some, yes. The vast majority of the WoW players, those for whom WoW is their first game? Not so much. A few that really got hooked on the MMO thing might migrate over due to word of mouth. But the bulk of them haven't heard of Vanguard, AoC, WAR, or probably even the games that preceded them. And in all likelyhood, they don't care, either. They picked up WoW based on the Blizzard/Warcraft brand, and most likely because a friend(s) played it.

    If there's a game out right now that needs to worry about losing it's playerbase, it's EQ2. Alot of EQ Live refugees landed there, hoping to find a next gen EQ, but were dissapointed. I think Vangaurd is going to be a big draw for them. AoC, and Warhammer will be WoWs big competition more than anything.

    And Eve will keep chugging along, unknown to the world as always.

  • dan7dan7 Member Posts: 49

    Originally posted by mehhem
    Top 5, no matter how much we scream Vanguard still has to compete with WoW.  Also you have to factor in new MMO's coming out. LotRO, AoC, WAR, also EQ2 and EVE are competing as well.  It will be interesting to see what happens in the future Q2....image
    That is true. It will be the two super powers competting for dominance of the mmo market. So it looks like when vanguard is released WoW will actually have some compettion.


  • eyceleycel Member Posts: 1,334
    Iv read that vanguard is useing the unreal 2 engine instead of the unreal 3 one.  Can any one give any incite to what that means?  And maybee what the differences of the two are? 

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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by Coldmeat

    LotRO will tank. Well, relative to what the expectations are for the LotR IP.
    It's DDO with an overmap.
    Vanguard will not really be competing with WoW. Yes, there are some mmo vets that will leave WoW for the new shiney. Moreso the high end raid guilds, in all likelyhood. Will they stick around? Some, yes. The vast majority of the WoW players, those for whom WoW is their first game? Not so much. A few that really got hooked on the MMO thing might migrate over due to word of mouth. But the bulk of them haven't heard of Vanguard, AoC, WAR, or probably even the games that preceded them. And in all likelyhood, they don't care, either. They picked up WoW based on the Blizzard/Warcraft brand, and most likely because a friend(s) played it.
    If there's a game out right now that needs to worry about losing it's playerbase, it's EQ2. Alot of EQ Live refugees landed there, hoping to find a next gen EQ, but were dissapointed. I think Vangaurd is going to be a big draw for them. AoC, and Warhammer will be WoWs big competition more than anything.
    And Eve will keep chugging along, unknown to the world as always.



    I think EQ2 will do much better than you surmise. I do believe WoW will continue to be a giant, not because of its quality, which is not in doubt, but becuase many people who play it just don't like MMORPG's all that much. They like WoW. An ultra casual online game they don't need to invest a lot of time into to have quite a lot of fun. The savior and downfall of our genre. I am probably, well likely, in the minority, but I think instancing sucks donkey. Just my opinion and I won't change my mind.

    I also think there are a lot of WoW players who are looking for something more. Enter Vanguard. Much more WoW like than you in your wide sweeping vision and knowledge are able to see. I won't waste my time on you because judging by your posts you are just negative towards Vanguard, but you will find out at release.

    Warhammer and AoC are hotly anticipated by me also and will be, hopefully, fantastic games which have a good future in the industry.

    Vanguard will be for those of us who like a rich world with lots of stuff to do. It won't be for those with short attention spans. Not saying anything against those with short attention spans, it just might not appeal to them as much as Warhammer.

    If people try Vanguard, I mean give it a real try, it will be a huge success. If they listen to trolls and twats, they probably won't bother to try it. Vanguard has a huge following of those for various reasons but what it comes down to is stupidity, ignorance or fear, or a combination of the three.

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