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PibiaN
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Hey guys hows it goin? I am trying to decide between WoW and FFXI. I use to play FFXI then got into WoW and I wanna go back to FFXI again. I use to have a 59 Black Mage, 44 White Mage, 52 Samurai, 53 Monk, 37 Dark Knight, and a 33 Black Mage but I was stupid and gave out my info and it got stolen 
. I played on Gilgamesh and it seems to have died now. So I am wondering if I should just play WoW or go to FFXI. If FFXI, what server and what class? I really really like Red Mage a lot but will I get parties? If you give me a server name could you buy me a Pass to go to it? Thank you,
~PibiaN~
. I played on Gilgamesh and it seems to have died now. So I am wondering if I should just play WoW or go to FFXI. If FFXI, what server and what class? I really really like Red Mage a lot but will I get parties? If you give me a server name could you buy me a Pass to go to it? Thank you,~PibiaN~
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I've played both WoW and FFXI im currently playing FFXI, and i will allways say i like it better than WoW.
If you start a red mage you will get a lot of parties, they are very wanted all the way to 75(allmost all mages are).
I myself play on Ragnarok, i don't think the server is dead, i think its one of the most populated(i really dunno).
I could be able to get you a world pass if interested. So just answer here or send me a PM, i will happily give u a worldpass
PS: Hope you make the right choice
The right man for the right job.
Well both games are different. I too have gone from FFXI to WoW to FFXI to Wow to EQ2 to Wow to... ok it goes on forever. I keep switching because each has something different.
FFXI in my opinion is more party oriented after 1-12ish and there are times when you cannot find one and are stuck just waiting for a party. However, once you're a higher level you have more options available to you. You wont be waiting as much, and if you are you probably have more gil to craft with, you can go farm more mobs, etc. Getting there is the hard part. On the plus side, I find the community in FFXI to be a lot friendlier than WoW. Yes, you do have youngsters running around and the problem with RMT, but compared to WoW the people are a lot nicer and you can usually find a LS that fits your style.
WoW... alright. I've read all the flames and all the praises. I'm mixed. As you can see from my first line I keep going back. First it's faster paced. You log in and right in front of you is someone telling you to go kill 10 innocent bunnies. People call WoW a grind fest, which it can be, but at least you have quests along the way to complete that give you experience. Also, I find you have more options as to where to level in WoW. In FFXI it goes solo -> Dunes -> Qufim -> Jungles -> etc... Rarely you will find people that want to break convention in FFXI, however in WoW you can grind rep while leveling, do instances, or just solo a few Quillboars. Community however... in my opinion go to a RP server. I've been on normal, PvP, and RP servers. Like in FFXI you can usually find a guild that will suit your needs. However, in general the people on a RP server are friendlier, there are less flames, and the people there are there to have a good time.
End Game...
I can only comment on WoW. There is a lot to do, but yes, it can get repetitive. Also it requires a lot of time. But I hear the same about FFXI (time requirement).
So... did I answer your question? Probably not. What would I recommend? Depends on your bank account and how much time you want to put into eveything. I last 2-3 months per game, cancel my account, and go between games. True, it takes me 2-3x longer to accomplish things, but the variety to me keeps everything fresh. Once I'm out of college and have a steady job I will probably subscribe to 2 MMOs at once because, well, I don't spend my money on anything else and if I'm having a lousy day in one, the other is always there as a backup (and vice versa). Good luck on your choices and maybe we'll run into each other someday!
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WoW
64 Gnome Mage Spirestone
61 Tauren Druid Earthen Ring
FFXI - Seraph
Windurstian Tarutaru
75 MNK 55 BLM 51 DRG
EQ2 - Nektulos
47 Conj (36 Tailor)
50 Zerker (30 Armorer)
14 Illusionist (37 Sage)
LOTRO
50 Hunter
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I can speak for both wow and ffxi end game.
FFXI you have stuff you can do in a PT like Limbus, which is a lot of fun. Then you have stuff like Dynamis, which you can do with almost 30+ people. Dynamis is a lot of fun because every job can do well in it. Everything in WoW is a DPS burn, only real dps fight in FFXI is DL... Ever other encounter is very interesting and requires the whole alliance to actually think. In WoW everything is scripted, In FFXI players have to react, they actually get to play there class... Not so in wow.
Then you have stuff like Sky, imo Sky is kinda boring but dont get me wrong, some people just love the zilrat stuff, which is why for every limbus or dynamis shell you have 15 sky shells. And then you have grounds... or Kings. The King scene is kinda messed up ATM due to the claim botters. This is maybe the only issue with FFXI's end game...
Oh yeah you got KS99 and loads of other BC's.... there is more, like ENM and such... now you have stuff in assault... You never have to be in one shell, if you wana just do dynamis and limbus, you can join a dynamis shell and a limbus shell, So you can do w/e you want. Not like in a game like WoW where you have to do exactly what your guild wants you to do. Bottom line, I never do the same thing back to back. Where if your doing MC, your doing that for the whole week, where in FFXI, my dynamis shell will do limbus one day,
As far as RDM, RDM is great at 48, when you get haste. Before 48 WHM may get invites faster due to haste... but none of this really matters.
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Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
I've played both and I'd say that FFXI has more longevity. People say they "quit" but they eventually come crawling back. FFXI has changed a lot over the past few months.
Everything is a lot cheaper now that RMT are being whacked with the banhammer. I won't say there won't be inflation this year but so far so good. Everything is going down slowly, especially things like Scorpion Harness, Haubergeon, etc.
It has also made it easier for melees to level. Although I haven't checked since the new areas since the update since one of the entries on the new patch notes read "Monster placement has been adjusted in the following areas: Bhaflau Thickets, Alzadaal Undersea Ruins, Caedarva Mire" which is where 80% of the people level when we have the Astral Candescence.
Ever since the expansion came out, melees have had an easier time finding a party while Black Mages have a hard time getting a party and have to stick to manaburns or soloing. This is because everyone is just going tp-burn and they just keep going and going and chain easy tough/very tough mobs endlessly. Need to go to the bathroom? Too bad.
Let's not start about the magic resist in the new areas. There's even a monster that has a passive reflect/mimic trait. Honestly, it's the worst time to start playing Black Mage if you are going all the way. Black Mages will hurt experience chains because they'll run out of MP eventually and have to rest while the general strategy is to annihilate weak things as fast as possible without stopping. Paladins share the same problem generally but they might be more viable now that they got some job ability buffs.
Classes that get parties quickly 10-50: Warrior, Paladin, Ninja (37+), Thief (15+), Black Mage, Red Mage (32-41+), White Mage, Blue Mage, Bard.
Classes that get parties quickly after 50+: Pretty much any melee class, Ninja, Bard, White Mage, Red Mage.
That's about a general idea of what jobs might get parties faster in my experience. As always, you might get some really bad parties a long the way that might discourage you from playing but keep going.
WoW if you like soloing and going at your own pace.
FFXI if you have a lot of time to spend to level grind, do missions, farm money, camp stuff, etc.
been playing WoW for 10 months, leveling myself a nice little human
paladin lvl 56. But since I could only play 2 weeks a month, my friends
lvled up way faster. Then I said screw WoW and started playing EVE. It
was fun 'cuz anywhere I was, I only had to press a single button to lvl
during a week without even playing. Still, real RPG miss me. So I said
to myself: '' Why the hell should I continu a game where I can't even
see my F****** CHARACTERE
Anyway... now I want to start playing FFXI, but... I've been on the
official site and I'm not still convince, because the site isn't clear
enough and ,for those who played WoW, you got to admit it the site is
way better created. So if only somebody could send me some info about
that game , I would glady appreciate it.
WoW Sux
Blizzard is focusing too much on WoW and Taking away from the other great titles like diablo and starcraft dev
thats y i hate it
Squaresoft has always had FF as there BIG Title. Count the FF Titles on your fingers Oh ya cant, but ya can warcraft point made
Blizzard is a great devloper but i think there spending too much time on WoW and not nought time on there other good games
I like to a Diablo 3 out and since its been 6 years since D2 LOD its past do. Blizzard is not gunna stop messing with WoW while its
hot and for that reason they will not get my support
Squaresoft has many games no question bout it but a good 90% of the Square fans love FF (The Bouncer what awesome too)
like i said tho FF was Square's main stuff
and before someone corrects me on Squaresoft i already know its square-enix now so keep it to urself
What Ever You Do
Both WoW and FFXI are good.. anyone who says one "sucks" is just a fanboi.
Personally I enjoyed FFXI better but at this time I find it hard to find a group a lower levels. Also as someone said it takes more time than WoW to do kill things ect. Also the controls are rather outdated... but still FFXI remains my favorite mmorpg.
WoW on the other hand would be good to play as there will be a lot of people starting new characters in lue of the new expansion.. so if you are looking to find friends or don't have 1+ at a time in order to get something accomplished then I would try WoW.
Hope that helps.
What Ever You Do
Hey,Personally i think you only have to look at WOW and then look at FFXI to know that FFXI would win a vite anyday against most of the mmorpg's on whole site ,wich also means WOw wouldn't stand a chance ,but thats my opinion throw your oppinions at me @ ste_mottram@hotmail.com emand email your opinions onthe game.
Oh yeah ,i said look because the graphics on FFXI are so awesome and advaced it's unbeleivable
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
I Played FFXI for 3 years before quitting in June of last year. I never played WOW, so I can only give a balanced advice on whether to play FFXI at this time or not.
While I thoroughly enjoyed the experience I had playing FFXI, I will advise any newcomer not to join at this time. The reason is simple; the game is dominated by hardcore gamers who are very particular on how the game is played. It will be difficult to find parties to level from 1~75. Another reason is that there has been for quite some time now a slow but steady drop in population across all the servers. It was getting increasingly difficult to level jobs that hasn't reach 70+ yet. Many in my group (linkshell) started quitting, including some hardcore gamers. I heard from the friends that are still in FFXI said that recent patches and adjustments are mainly geared towards making lvl 75 jobs more fun.
Also, players in FFXI tend to have preconcieved notions of what a party should consist of, what attack/spell to use at certain timing, and what equipments they should have. They tend to assume everyone else are hardcore FFXI players who understands essence of battles like themselves. Eventhough there are 18 jobs in all, there are only a few that are in favor for a lvl 75 party. It makes newcomer's task that much more difficult that after labouring to get to 75, they might not be invited because they have the wrong jobs, or that they have to do things a certain way, wear certain type of armour, and carry certain weapons.
After hearing this for those that are still undeterred I have a suggested path to get you to 75 while not having to spent too much gil and still be popular.
1. Choose White Mage as your first job and level it to 18. White Mages are the easiest to get invited to a party in the early going of the game.
2. Choose Red Mage as your second job while using White Mage as your support job and level it to 37.
3. Switch back to White Mage and level it to level 37 as well.
4. Switch back to Red Mage and level it all the way to 75. Red Mage are fairly popular in parties especially after it learns a spell called "refresh" at level 41.
If you don't want to be in a supporting role and want to stand in front and hack away at monsters, Warrior is your best bet. Ninja is the most welcomed front-line profession and perhaps most fun, but of all the jobs in FFXI it is also by far the costliest.
I'm a Veteran on both FFXI and WoW, I've also played other MMORPGs like evercrack and Starwars. Here are a few quick thoughts about the two titles in question, feel free to ask me anything in depth that you would like.
First of WoW, because it's easiest to talk about.
Early leveling and item acquiring, with leveling in wow you can just solo grind, even upto lvl 60 with not really any time involved in it. You also have a rest bonus modifier that allows you, while logged offline you sleep and when you log back in you get 100% bonus to your experience for a set period of time, maximum of 2 levels per rest cycle. So if you aren't a power gamer and just play 30min to an hour a day you can get much more exp when online to keep up with would be power gamers. You also have a meriad(lot) of quests to take place in at all level ranges to get items, which include (Gold, armor, weapons and trinkets) as well as decent experience. However most of these quests are grind quests, which means go kill 50+ creatures of a type to get items to drop and return them for stuff. As far as getting good items in WoW you don't really have to purchase them from the auction house, while fighting on the world map you can get random item drops that are decent, and sometimes might happen on a rare monster, which happeds quite often, and they sometimes drop rare to near super rare items. From my experiences depending on your alliegience depends on the friendliness of the gamers. On the Horde side I've noticed many more adult players which are more mature and aren't complete asses. On the alliance side, though not all of them are, most are children and as you can tell are mostly immature and assholish. But this experience can be on both sides, just try to find a good guild and then stick with them if they are good people.
Job classes in WoW are different but each side has it's counterpart to the "enemy" however you are mostly stuck on playing your job classes in a set manner and can't sway and decide to do something odd with them... You also have to create new characters and start fresh if you want to do multiple job classes.
endgame - if you are interested in the high level endgame i.e. gnone solo end game you'll need to be accepted into an endgame guild and then you'll take part in low end endgame missions until you have the adequet armor and weapons to help with the higher end stuff. when you do endgame missions and areas in WoW plan on setting alot of time asside, and by alot I mean upwards of 6 hours maybe more if you have alot planned. each mission or area takes alot of time and alot of coordination to complete with success you'll also most likely need to get a program like "Ventrillo" or another over the net talking program so that you can recieve directions from the leaders of the "Raid" (mission types with 20+ people). this is very important for end game because one false move could lose the mission for everyone, and they all set alot of time asside to do this, they will hate you and most likely kick you from the guild and tell other guilds about your mistakes.
For more information on job classes or things like mounts just e-mail me ogami_daigoro@hotmail.com.
FFXI
With FFXI the leveling post 10, you can get further upto 15 (rarely or hard and time consuming) or with Beastmaster upto 75 solo. BUt after level 10 you will be stuck to mostly getting parties of a somewhat set nature to level. In my advice take BLM to 15 - 20 "preferably 18 for subjob class" then take whitemage to 30, it will get faster invites and get you to the advanced job classes faster. WHM is also a decent SJ to have when soloing things or farming, you can then use WHM as a SJ for BLM to 70+ or RDM, however BLM can be a better subjob than whm for RDM they both have their uses, I suggest looking up a thread on RDM SJs for more information, I myself only have RDM to 45 so I can't offer to much info on that class. You did say you where thinking about RDM for a job class so I'll end information on job class leveling right there.
You will be stuck in leveling at the same locations as everyone else until endgame for most all jobs, except beastmaster which is the only true solo job in FFXI. the general location table is as follows. 1-10 solo (home country area) , 10-20 Valkurm Dunes, 20-25 Qufim Island, 25-32 Yuhtunga and Yhoator jungles (3 keys for airship pass required). 29-35 (Eastern altepa desert) best option if you can find the people else goto Garlaige citadel. 35-45 various locations most used is (Crawlers Nest), 45-52 (crawlers nest & Quicksand caves). 52+ is really party oriented, they will be the same locations over and over again but just chill in Jueno city and someone will invite you to go somewhere, this also applies for 32+ parties. Just a little insight as to how long you will be at each location, sometimes you can get alot of EXP quickly and sometimes not much at all depending on the skill and outright want/care of the other party members.
With Items I would suggest starting all crafts early on, and by starting I don't mean power level through them. What I mean is look up some simple recipes for 0-10 in the skill levels and try to save those items needed as you level. You will be short on space so if you can sell some of them for good cash (10,000+ gil per sale) then sell them, if it nets under 500 just toss it for space, trust me space is money and somethings are easier to just buy from the auction house or bazaars of people instead of carrying the junk around. why start craftinh? because when you get to higher level jobs you'll need armor and weapons and they aren't cheap and are hard to get to drop from mobs, items that drop from mobs that are worth it will be Notorious monsters or Bosses, they can be a pain in the ass to camp, get the claim on the monster, and then afterwards get the item to drop. You can sometimes be hunting the thing for hours or days and kill him multiple times like 5 or so and get no drop, it will piss you off and you'll want to quit or just stop caring. So for most items until high level, near end game or end game you'll be purchasing everything from the Auction house. some items are very cheap and worthwhile others can be very expensive and will take days to farm items to sell for the gil required. You should also look into what items will be best for each level range for your job and try to pick up items for upgrades before you get to that level (are close) then when you go get there you won't have to stop leveling to get the items or be the target of hate from some people because your gear sucks for the job level.
as far as the people go, over all I haven't really experience any ( in terms of ammount of people playing) assholes, though there are a few they are easy to weed out and ignore. Most people on FFXI are adults, mature and are there to just play a good game and BS with their friends. With the Linkshells (groups/clans/guilds or whatever else it is known as) find a good linkshell that you can talk with people while leveling and also get the missions, quests and other things out of the way as they become available, try to stay up to date with them because when it comes time to join and endgame linkshell if you aren't upto date with the missions you won't be accepted.
endgame with FFXI, like i stated above you'll have to be upto date, preferable complete, with missions so that you can partivipate in endgame activities. early endgame involves raid type missions (Dynamis) where you'll enter a type of void upto 2 times a week and take orders from the leaders to kill mobs and hope for good drop items for early endgame. with Sky and sky gods you'll usually go as a linkshell to get trigger items (required to spawn the sky gods) this can be quick or slow when you have enough trigger items the Linkshell will set a date and time where you'll go and spend all day (or until done) killing these gods to get items that drop to cleanse/purify cursed items that are sometimes great items. with Limbus you can go in with a max party of 18 people to do similar events as a Dynamis run only on a smaller scale, but with meaner monsters and better drops( less people means faster aacquiring the items). the so called best weapons in the game can be a biotch to acquire they can take upwards of 2+ real years to get but I've heard are worth it, this is one of the few item types I have yet to aquire but I'm slowly, very slowly working on it.
This is a long thread but I believe that it is the shortest I could make it with putting the important information with for you to decide on which game to play. I hope this thread has been insightful and if you have any Q's once again hit me up ogami_daigoro@hotmail.com
play WoW if you want an easier game, cuz FFXi is much much harder, you have to grind twice to 20 and then twice to thirty before you actually have your final Job/class
The graphics are actually really good.
It all depends on what style of graphics you like.
I also have experience with both of these games, and as many of the previous posters have covered most of your questions, I shall try and keep this concise and to the point.
I really do not think that you can bracket the two games under the same banner, and it depends entirely on what type of MMO player you are, as to which game you should play.
Simply put - WoW is an easy to pick up and play game. It is very friendly to the casual player, and does not need a lot of time and effort in order to get anywhere. The EU community which I play on does have it's fair share of morons, as does any MMO, but I find playing on a RP specific server, such as Moonglade, that you have a lot less griefers, and a more friendly and helpful environment.
FFXI on the other hand, does require a lot of time and effort. If you are a hardcore gamer, then this will provide enough 'meat on the bones' to keep you going for ages. I personally found it frustrating that after a certain level, you basically were required to party, and I did find it a bit of a time sink. Do not get me wrong, I enjoyed my stay with FFXI, just that it was not suited to my gamestyle.
MC can only be cleared ONCE in a week. This person has clearly never played WoW end-game. Just a heads-up.
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Played - UO, FFXI, WAR, WoW, EVE
Currently - Bored.
Originally posted by PibiaN
Hey guys hows it goin? I am trying to decide between WoW and FFXI. I use to play FFXI then got into WoW and I wanna go back to FFXI again.
I think you just answered your own question. If you want to go back to FFXI, then do what you want to do! And yeah, Redmages still get parties. They're Redmages. >_> most parties won't even try to function without Refresh or a BRD.
If you're looking for a crowded server, you could always try Ragnarok. That's the server most importers went to before it was officially released so it has its share of people. Fairy always has a lot of drama, so it probably has a good population over there too. I'm on Kujata but I'm on hiatus right now. And I don't know how crowded it is lowgame.
Wow fits me rather nicely, i can't stand to play a single char all the time so i have at least one of each class in wow, i change a lot so grouping can get tricky
Everquest is still fun but takes a lot of time to once you get to about 50ish and you get ruined if you like to stay up on expansions with a new one coming out every 6 month or so.
Eve is not bad but i play it for short periods only, i do mostly mining and building things
Just got vanguard and the tradeskills seems like they can be interesting, but then again they remind me a lot of the tradeskills in horizons which was very nice(my opinion you might think different
In my opinion i say neither. Both games are time consuming and take awhile to get anywhere. I say go with GuildWars.
Now if you really want to play one of these i say WOW. Wow isnt as long as ff11. It is also more fun in every area you can think of.