Originally posted by ZeTaKa I try GW in beta, and dont like the system of game and team, and play FFXI 4 moths and get hated to stay 1 or 2 or 3 hours, in city for play in team 1 hour, for i lose all the time for get party. And i love PSU, but is only repeat repeat and repeat, no much items and get "tendonitis" / "tendinitis" for play too many hours with gamepad . and for that im looking for MMORPG. For no repeat answers, i try, GW, WoW (i hate it), EQ2, FFXI, MoX, CoV and D&D
Then there isn't an MMORPG out there for you. Are you sure you like grouping games? Being able to commit enough time to form a group and do something with that group is part of it. You've trashed the only grouping games out there and there isn't another grouping game coming out in the next couple years.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
Originally posted by Karse WoW is Anti-Party... From what I've read i'd wait until vanguard, they've said their design stratagy was 20% solo play 20% raiding and 60% small group play.. .and you're pretty similar to me in mmo taste
WoW is not anti-group. Damn people who never played the game should not make comments about it. You can group in WoW all the way to 60 if that is what you want to do. If all you want to do is run dungeons then that is up to you. If by anti-group you mean not forcing you to group via out dated and lame gameplay mechanics in order to level then maybe you are right in that respect.
I mean anti-party as in you almost never party and partying has completely no purpose(as apposed to leveling solo... there is just no bonus...) I played for over a year and wanted to do nothing but party... guess what... the furthest i got was a lvl 54 lock... 99% of the gamers on the normal servers and PvP servers are powergamers who solo up to 60 as fast as they can and say 'oh you want to party shove it where the sun don't shine you damned carebear.' and the people on the RP and RP-PvP servers don't even bother RPing and do the same old thing... it's a game where there is no reason to actually party to level... I mean I never got a party outside a looting instance where i was ordered to pass on everything and if i didn't pass, i got kicked from party... and I don't call a chaotic group of guildies fighting over tier armor a party... I've taken more that enough crap from blizzard's WoW department to be able to bad mouth them at this point after over a year of subscription to a sub par single player game with a massive chat channel... oh and they're not outdated game mechanics that force you to party nor are they lame however I respect your right to have an opinion no matter how much it angers me to hear it.
well back on topic(an sorry for my rant... have had a bad day)... if not Vanguard; Ragnarok 2 in what i believe is a quote from gravity(not 100% sure...) "Killing one strong creature has been redesigned to be far more effective than killing multiple weaker enemies. Grouping has also been made far more beneficial to those in the group." so that might catch your interest when it's released.
Raiding, instances, battlegrounds... elite quests. Only game I know that gives you the option of more partying is FFXI...
WoW lets you do either way, group being more efficient.
He said he wanted a game where you never solo and everyone teams. If you claim that about WoW, then you're a damned liar. WoW's instances only account for a small percentage of its content. Same with Elite bosses. Raiding is strictly group oriented, but that is just the end game. He also complained about having to wait around for an hour or so to form a party. WoW is not for him. Most of the content in WoW is better xp if you solo. There is no rewards for grouping and most people who play WoW are soloers. That is another reason WoW has trouble with raiding. You have a bunch of soloers trying to get along in a group.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
I Will return to try DDO, for the last time i try, only see much bugs and is expensive 15$/moth. I see, which I really need is a RPG online, but no find any, like PSU, and for the ***** PSU, i have been 1 moth without tounch keyboard, and sure cant play in 2 or 3 weeks more, reason why I do not have left more remedy to look for a MMORPG for people speak really bad from service of servers from titan quest and no have idea of others RPGs Online.
PvE: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Very much focused on Group play, nice game mechanics. Has some downsides (no open world to explore), but overall a good game if you enjoy group play.
PvP: Dark Age of Camelot. Nothing better than group versus group or zerg vs. zerg Laying siege to enemy keeps, fire catapults...my alltime favorite.
EQ2 .While i have to say parties in WoW are actually good fun ifyou go with people you know it can be a nightmare.In WoW to leave a group within 10 mins of joining or afk for 30 mins is pretty much the norm there.
There is no contest,FFXI is by far the best team oriented game and is totally designed to be that way in every aspect of the game.Therefore if you do not like FFXI then you really are not into team play as you say,you are instead looking for something else as to wich i have no idea what that is.There is only a handful of games that are totally designed from ground up to be all team based,so there isn't going to be any miracle game out there for you.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
The problem of FFXI and same with EQ2, or CoV in high level is really difficult find team, the last time i play FFXI i stay in weekend time 5 hours to find team, and im bard/white mage. With BRD is really boring and difficult solo-paying and find good items is a problem, and people give others bards with better items. And in team, all people only say, i have than, and i have the other... is the problem of FFXI, much people is stupid, for example japaneses... are good players, but really stupids... and sure with the PSU, much players of FFXI cancel the account.
You cant play ffxi to level 75 and not have got into a static party by that time.Far too many players in any game still try to do everything fast and solo or wing it.It takes a tremendous effort to get to level 75 and a ton of xp and time doing other things like AF gear /missions/ level break limits.That is far too long to not have got into a LS or static so you should not have been spending 5 hours looking for a party,but rather waiting for your set time to play of your LS members or static party.The design is only a flaw if you choose to play solo or wing it,and that is not what this player says he is looking for.This player states he is looking for a team based game.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
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MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
I mean anti-party as in you almost never party and partying has completely no purpose(as apposed to leveling solo... there is just no bonus...) I played for over a year and wanted to do nothing but party... guess what... the furthest i got was a lvl 54 lock... 99% of the gamers on the normal servers and PvP servers are powergamers who solo up to 60 as fast as they can and say 'oh you want to party shove it where the sun don't shine you damned carebear.' and the people on the RP and RP-PvP servers don't even bother RPing and do the same old thing... it's a game where there is no reason to actually party to level... I mean I never got a party outside a looting instance where i was ordered to pass on everything and if i didn't pass, i got kicked from party... and I don't call a chaotic group of guildies fighting over tier armor a party... I've taken more that enough crap from blizzard's WoW department to be able to bad mouth them at this point after over a year of subscription to a sub par single player game with a massive chat channel...
oh and they're not outdated game mechanics that force you to party nor are they lame however I respect your right to have an opinion no matter how much it angers me to hear it.
well back on topic(an sorry for my rant... have had a bad day)... if not Vanguard; Ragnarok 2 in what i believe is a quote from gravity(not 100% sure...) "Killing one strong creature has been redesigned to be far more effective than killing multiple weaker enemies. Grouping has also been made far more beneficial to those in the group." so that might catch your interest when it's released.
Raiding, instances, battlegrounds... elite quests.
Only game I know that gives you the option of more partying is FFXI...
WoW lets you do either way, group being more efficient.
He said he wanted a game where you never solo and everyone teams. If you claim that about WoW, then you're a damned liar. WoW's instances only account for a small percentage of its content. Same with Elite bosses. Raiding is strictly group oriented, but that is just the end game. He also complained about having to wait around for an hour or so to form a party. WoW is not for him. Most of the content in WoW is better xp if you solo. There is no rewards for grouping and most people who play WoW are soloers. That is another reason WoW has trouble with raiding. You have a bunch of soloers trying to get along in a group.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
PvP: Dark Age of Camelot. Nothing better than group versus group or zerg vs. zerg
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.