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SWG Rules!!!!!!!

-Thraxor--Thraxor- Member UncommonPosts: 139

The MMOWTF awards........

In your face WoW!!!!

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MMOWTF Awards


It was almost a clean sweep for SWG and SOE other than DnL in the Worst Graphics category.

With another combat revamp or 2, some more bugs, and an extra helping of lag I really think they might have a chance at the sweep next year.

Make it so SOE.



Comments

  • Daed710Daed710 Member Posts: 134

    SWG/NGE finally gets the recognition it deserves, lol.

    gotta luv this line too...

     

    "MOST SHAMELESS DEVELOPER:

    SONY ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT

    With a staggering 77% of the votes SOE won in a blowout..."

     

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    "Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now.
    We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"

  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666
    Gratz to SWG and Obraik!!!image


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    I sleep with a pillow under my gun.

  • Harry-SackHarry-Sack Member Posts: 135
    Congratulations to Star Wars Galaxies and it's players!

    In other news, SWG is also the winner of the coveted 'Turd Burgler' award.

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    John Smedley beat up my grandmother.

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  • TrubadurenTrubaduren Member Posts: 575

    Finally!

    Those awards are sure worthy of SWG!

     

     

     

    Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143



    Originally posted by MMO_Man
    Gratz to SWG and Obraik!!!image



    Yep..LOL

    But once again someone will claim that it was not enough people to proclaim it a bad game.

    I swear...

    It's funny, you could almost ask any MMO player or most gamers and man, does SWG just make people disgusted lol.

    But hey, the 10k playerbase if that is whats left will tell you it's just fine and great and growing... or some crap.

    I actually think more people posted about it then how many play it now myself.    How ironic that it ended up like this.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666
    If SWG wasn't included in the station pass it would be shut down by now, and the Matrix too.


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    I sleep with a pillow under my gun.

  • severiusseverius Member UncommonPosts: 1,516
    Naw, Matrix Online wont close until DC Comics gets finished.  SOE inked the deal with Warner Bros. for the simple reason that they wanted the DC Comics Online rights.  Matrix Online started dying shortly after the 2nd month or so of pay 2 play.  Warner Bros was starting to lose money, their TV network was failing and profits were looking bad.  They needed a bail out and SOE rushed in with wallets open.

    I think it was even in the SOE press release that by taking over the failing MXO that SOE had assured themselves the rights to mmo's based on other Warner Bros. holdings.



  • free2playfree2play Member UncommonPosts: 2,043
    Unfortunately, they have earned every one of them. It's hard to say how many times they will flip the SWG hour glass. There aren't very many grains of sand left in it.
  • TaguritTagurit Member Posts: 309

    Originally posted by iskareot
    Originally posted by MMO_Man
    Gratz to SWG and Obraik!!!image


    It's funny, you could almost ask any MMO player or most gamers and man, does SWG just make people disgusted lol.


    Heck, just go look at their own suckboards.  Their own playerbase isn't even happy.  Look at how many threads the mods have to close 1 year later for saying the nge sucks. 

    No matter what the fanbois say, they are hated in their own land.


  • -Thraxor--Thraxor- Member UncommonPosts: 139

    Originally posted by Daed710
    SWG/NGE finally gets the recognition it deserves, lol. gotta luv this line too...   "MOST SHAMELESS DEVELOPER: SONY ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT With a staggering 77% of the votes SOE won in a blowout..."   image
    Yes I thought the quote was quite amusing also, I give SOE credit for being consistent in angering their playebase from EQ 1 onward.


  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

    After reading even more of those votes, it is just sad SOE and SWG put themselves in this catagory.

    There was more posts on how bad it is then the players in the SOE posting right now.

    THAT alone should tell the Dev team just how bad they really are... all you need is a little common sense and you can figure this out.

    But see that is the key words to use:   "common sense"..... and that friends is not exactly somthing you see alot involved in this game right now.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832



    Originally posted by iskareot

    After reading even more of those votes, it is just sad SOE and SWG put themselves in this catagory.
    There was more posts on how bad it is then the players in the SOE posting right now.
    THAT alone should tell the Dev team just how bad they really are... all you need is a little common sense and you can figure this out.
    But see that is the key words to use:   "common sense"..... and that friends is not exactly somthing you see alot involved in this game right now.




    SOE has put SWG into this position from the get-go. Lest we forget SWG's first award shortly after launch, earning the coveted "Coaster of the Year Award" not once but twice in a 3 year time span. With such comments as:

    "No, it was Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided that vaulted to the pinnacle of this year’s game garbage and clung to the top spot with a vigor that is so woefully absent in the game itself"

    "Galaxies is a soulless compendium of game design theories masquerading as entertainment"

    "a potentially great game transformed into a pay-as-you-go force-feeding of dirt"

    Strangely, the comments haven't changed much from one year to the next eh?

    "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  • SlickinfinitSlickinfinit Member UncommonPosts: 1,094

    LOL I guess were are not as much of a minority as we are vocal lol!

    {(RIP)} SWG

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

    Originally posted by -Thraxor-

    The MMOWTF awards........



    In your face WoW!!!!







    MMOWTF Awards





    It was almost a clean sweep for SWG and SOE other than DnL in the Worst Graphics category.



    With another combat revamp or 2, some more bugs, and an extra helping of lag I really think they might have a chance at the sweep next year.



    Make it so SOE.



    Sorry this thread deserves a bump and a reality check for the NGErs... so they don't think people just make this up..

    Again outstanding to MMORPG for allowing this truth to be seen, good job in not buckling in seeing the worst MMO in history get its just rewards.

    GRATS SWG AND SOE... you have made your bed now you must "lie" in it --- get it??? "Lie"??? lol I kill me...lol

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    How is that "article" any more important over what happens daily on this forum?  It's just the same people dragging up their opinions only this time they get to have it written in an article.  Lol, what, did you honestly think it'd suddenly change my (and others) view and I'd see out of your rose coloured glasses and think "wow, pre-cu was so great, I want that game back now!"

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  • TaguritTagurit Member Posts: 309
    Originally posted by Obraik


    .......... "wow, pre-cu was so great, I want that game back now!"
    I agree man    It was great!  I do want it back now!


  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143
    Originally posted by Obraik


    How is that "article" any more important over what happens daily on this forum?  It's just the same people dragging up their opinions only this time they get to have it written in an article.  Lol, what, did you honestly think it'd suddenly change my (and others) view and I'd see out of your rose coloured glasses and think "wow, pre-cu was so great, I want that game back now!"



    Because that amount of people and opinions involved are on a greater level... in fact it by far was more peoples opinion then the people in game.

    Obraik your running out of excuses and it's showing...

    You cannot deny what people call this game, you cannot deny what people think of the people that play it, you cannot deny that being involved in a failure does have a effect on gamers and the gaming community, you cannot deny that going from somthing having potential to seeing this IN YOUR FAC E AS MORE THEN JUST A VOCAL minority bothers you.

    As it should and as your defending it yet again...

    Except this time, it's not just us (the regulars) that are saying it but the whole gaming community... if not the majority.

    Sorry, your just fresh out of excuses at this stage... you can try but people are using common sense now, you can't even fool them enough to get them to stay in game.

    See, after one year of putting out this garbage, after one year of trying to make a excuse for it...people are now getting wise, they are now realizing to EXPECT a good product instead of ACCEPTING one...

    At one time we had promise and hope, the game had alot of potential, sure it was rough and did not have alot of awards, BUT it did not have lists and lists of bad ones.... it had support and people that trusted the team and the makers.

    Looks like in the end as I said from the start of this mess that KARMA would play a role in it.

    Looks like I was right.... without a doubt.

    How ironic that you can't argue what people think on a mass level.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • neveynevey Member Posts: 6
    Grats to SWG, I'm really pleased to see it getting the recognition it deserves.  Well done SOE, sit back and be proud of your achievements.  You continually dumbed down the game until it was a joke.  On the plus side for me, at least it was more fun than my 2 month stint in DnL.
  • -Thraxor--Thraxor- Member UncommonPosts: 139
    Originally posted by iskareot




    Because that amount of people and opinions involved are on a greater level... in fact it by far was more peoples opinion then the people in game.
    Obraik your running out of excuses and it's showing...
    You cannot deny what people call this game, you cannot deny what people think of the people that play it, you cannot deny that being involved in a failure does have a effect on gamers and the gaming community, you cannot deny that going from somthing having potential to seeing this IN YOUR FAC E AS MORE THEN JUST A VOCAL minority bothers you.
    As it should and as your defending it yet again...
    Except this time, it's not just us (the regulars) that are saying it but the whole gaming community... if not the majority.
    Sorry, your just fresh out of excuses at this stage... you can try but people are using common sense now, you can't even fool them enough to get them to stay in game.
    See, after one year of putting out this garbage, after one year of trying to make a excuse for it...people are now getting wise, they are now realizing to EXPECT a good product instead of ACCEPTING one...
    At one time we had promise and hope, the game had alot of potential, sure it was rough and did not have alot of awards, BUT it did not have lists and lists of bad ones.... it had support and people that trusted the team and the makers.
    Looks like in the end as I said from the start of this mess that KARMA would play a role in it.
    Looks like I was right.... without a doubt.
    How ironic that you can't argue what people think on a mass level.




    Hehe thats pretty accurate. Really it's quite obvious that SWG is considered the laughingstock of the MMO world and thats saying something when it's under the Star Wars name. I will admit DnL flopped really bad but then again they didn't try to sell out their playerbase for gamers who were off playing WoW.



    A real problem with this fiasco is that the major players involved with this train wreck, Smedly, Torrres, McIntyre, ect ect have all kept their jobs and it's been the players and low level folks who've had to pay the price for the total mismanagement of a game that should of been a lay up winner.



    But it's blatantly obvious with the godless morons still running things over there, Helios, Rogue5, ect ect who still don't have the first clue on what gamers actually like that the only winning they will do is the MMOWTF awards next year, if the game is still around by then.
  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143
    Originally posted by -Thraxor-

    Originally posted by iskareot




    Because that amount of people and opinions involved are on a greater level... in fact it by far was more peoples opinion then the people in game.
    Obraik your running out of excuses and it's showing...
    You cannot deny what people call this game, you cannot deny what people think of the people that play it, you cannot deny that being involved in a failure does have a effect on gamers and the gaming community, you cannot deny that going from somthing having potential to seeing this IN YOUR FAC E AS MORE THEN JUST A VOCAL minority bothers you.
    As it should and as your defending it yet again...
    Except this time, it's not just us (the regulars) that are saying it but the whole gaming community... if not the majority.
    Sorry, your just fresh out of excuses at this stage... you can try but people are using common sense now, you can't even fool them enough to get them to stay in game.
    See, after one year of putting out this garbage, after one year of trying to make a excuse for it...people are now getting wise, they are now realizing to EXPECT a good product instead of ACCEPTING one...
    At one time we had promise and hope, the game had alot of potential, sure it was rough and did not have alot of awards, BUT it did not have lists and lists of bad ones.... it had support and people that trusted the team and the makers.
    Looks like in the end as I said from the start of this mess that KARMA would play a role in it.
    Looks like I was right.... without a doubt.
    How ironic that you can't argue what people think on a mass level.




    Hehe thats pretty accurate. Really it's quite obvious that SWG is considered the laughingstock of the MMO world and thats saying something when it's under the Star Wars name. I will admit DnL flopped really bad but then again they didn't try to sell out their playerbase for gamers who were off playing WoW.



    A real problem with this fiasco is that the major players involved with this train wreck, Smedly, Torrres, McIntyre, ect ect have all kept their jobs and it's been the players and low level folks who've had to pay the price for the total mismanagement of a game that should of been a lay up winner.



    But it's blatantly obvious with the godless morons still running things over there, Helios, Rogue5, ect ect who still don't have the first clue on what gamers actually like that the only winning they will do is the MMOWTF awards next year, if the game is still around by then.



    ACTUALLY....

    They all shifted and got away from being around this title...

    Nancy got promoted out this... I'm sure her calling the playerbase out like she did was not wise or a PR move that was considered a favored one.

    Julio-- HAS not said a word, in fact he has dissapeared so fast from SWG that it's not funny since the summits and the failure of the NGE.   The second the producters called it a "mistake" he fled and went to a different project.

    Mr. Smedley, well he was stuck -- but he was honest to us here on these boards, called it a mistake and then wanted to move on... he really just wants to put this behind them right now, I do not blame him at all.

    Jeff Freeman, got "Let go" he was a major maker of the NGE,  Raph... well, he quit... many of the old Devs quit as well..over the last year.... one even asked to be transfered to the EQ Team because he saw the writing on the wall.    

    As for the rest, well....  They are on the defensive,   Chris Chiao is a moron that spewed his mouth one day and let the people "Have it"..lol --- that guy was taken out of the picture fast as far as speaking to the playerbase now lol...

    None the less, SWG is what it is.....  It had promise and hope, it was hard, different and diverse... Now?  Now it's a semi multiplayer Combat arcade game with alot of bugs and empty servers.

    It is sad though, really it is.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by Obraik


    How is that "article" any more important over what happens daily on this forum?  It's just the same people dragging up their opinions only this time they get to have it written in an article.  Lol, what, did you honestly think it'd suddenly change my (and others) view and I'd see out of your rose coloured glasses and think "wow, pre-cu was so great, I want that game back now!"



    What's the matter, $OE stopped handing them out as player rewards everytime you login? Face reality Obraik  you may see a great game but the majority of people that've played SWG only see a ghost town, with a Zabrak wearing rose tinted specs and armour that looks like something from a gay pride march.

    Can you honestly tell us that SWG isn't screwed up now? Don't give us the "it's getting better" crap, it was meant to be fixed 7 months ago according to Smed. You say PRE-CU had problems too, so what you've been waiting 3 years for things to get better and all they've done is screw you over?

    Obraik admit it, you're on the SOE payroll. You're far too intelligent to play that steaming pile and take $OE's crap whilst paying them!

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • LaterisLateris Member UncommonPosts: 1,847
    You know what is really sad here? It is the fact that there may never be a Star Wars MMO again done the right way.





    I would  love to design a new Star Wars MMO.

     
  • -Thraxor--Thraxor- Member UncommonPosts: 139
    Originally posted by iskareot




    ACTUALLY....
    They all shifted and got away from being around this title...
    Nancy got promoted out this... I'm sure her calling the playerbase out like she did was not wise or a PR move that was considered a favored one.
    Julio-- HAS not said a word, in fact he has dissapeared so fast from SWG that it's not funny since the summits and the failure of the NGE.   The second the producters called it a "mistake" he fled and went to a different project.
    Mr. Smedley, well he was stuck -- but he was honest to us here on these boards, called it a mistake and then wanted to move on... he really just wants to put this behind them right now, I do not blame him at all.
    Jeff Freeman, got "Let go" he was a major maker of the NGE,  Raph... well, he quit... many of the old Devs quit as well..over the last year.... one even asked to be transfered to the EQ Team because he saw the writing on the wall.    
    As for the rest, well....  They are on the defensive,   Chris Chiao is a moron that spewed his mouth one day and let the people "Have it"..lol --- that guy was taken out of the picture fast as far as speaking to the playerbase now lol...
    None the less, SWG is what it is.....  It had promise and hope, it was hard, different and diverse... Now?  Now it's a semi multiplayer Combat arcade game with alot of bugs and empty servers.
    It is sad though, really it is.
    Actually that was my point, these people haven't been fired or demoted, they're still at the companies just shifted to a different department. These are the same folks who



    sold out their then current playerbase trying to entice WoW subs

    bashed on their players for their play styles and likes

    stood up on plenty of stages/interviews and lied out their asses about the NGE

    promised everything under the sun and delivered none of it



    and yet the only backlash against them was being shifted to a different dept like sweeping trash under the rug hoping nobody would notice or ask questions.



    I guess I just feel that people should be responsible for their actions and be accountable for their mistakes, and boy the NGE and related fallout is a whopper.
  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350

    Obraik, I am not part of these refugees. In fact, since I was in SWG beta, I pretty much hated what they had done to the SWG licence. I later got a station access, to play it again, since my friends were diehard fans, and they told me of all the "updates" that happened between launch and up to 6 months before the CU. I tried, I really tried, I STILL disliked SWG Pre NGE. So no.. I am not one of these diehard refugees...

    Having said that. I also tried the NGE. I activated my account again to try it out together with the updates to EQ II. And, being someone who did not like the original SWG I can safelly say.. Post NGE sucks so bad I would only buy it to my worst enemy if my worst enemy had just shot my mother and turned her into minced meat pie. Not unti then, its just too cruel a punishment against any living soul. Its the crappiest excuse of a game I have ever seen, and the only thng they did keep from the original was the thousands of bugs.

    So.... I really cant believe that you can sit there with a straight face, in front of tons of evidence about one things, tens of thousands of upset voices and a Game developer community of professinals that use SWG as a laughing stock, a lesson to be taught in designer schools for centuries to come "what NOT to do". You must be hired by SOE or two jacks and a five of clubs short of a full deck.

    I agree completly with the MMOWTF awards, as do anyone working in the industry. Enjoy it all you want, but never for an INSTANT think the world is more wrong and bent than you are.

    "This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
    It should be thrown with great force"

  • -Thraxor--Thraxor- Member UncommonPosts: 139
    Originally posted by Harafnir


    Obraik, I am not part of these refugees. In fact, since I was in SWG beta, I pretty much hated what they had done to the SWG licence. I later got a station access, to play it again, since my friends were diehard fans, and they told me of all the "updates" that happened between launch and up to 6 months before the CU. I tried, I really tried, I STILL disliked SWG Pre NGE. So no.. I am not one of these diehard refugees...
    Having said that. I also tried the NGE. I activated my account again to try it out together with the updates to EQ II. And, being someone who did not like the original SWG I can safelly say.. Post NGE sucks so bad I would only buy it to my worst enemy if my worst enemy had just shot my mother and turned her into minced meat pie. Not unti then, its just too cruel a punishment against any living soul. Its the crappiest excuse of a game I have ever seen, and the only thng they did keep from the original was the thousands of bugs.
    So.... I really cant believe that you can sit there with a straight face, in front of tons of evidence about one things, tens of thousands of upset voices and a Game developer community of professinals that use SWG as a laughing stock, a lesson to be taught in designer schools for centuries to come "what NOT to do". You must be hired by SOE or two jacks and a five of clubs short of a full deck.
    I agree completly with the MMOWTF awards, as do anyone working in the industry. Enjoy it all you want, but never for an INSTANT think the world is more wrong and bent than you are.
    LOL it's true, SWG is a laughingstock in the MMO world and will be used as an example for many years to come of what NOT to do to a game or its playerbase. Obraik just has a "See no evil/Hear no evil" attitude and so continues his crusade in the vet forum trying to convince ppl that SWG isn't crap, lol good luck on that one



    Given that the same devs/management that have been running it into the ground are still there it's not going to get any better, to be honest its DOA it just hasn't stopped flopping around yet.
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