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Finally, can be rid of this now
shae
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OK so finally those of us that have been howling for the truth over the last 12 months, calling out the lies and the pure BS have been vindicated. As if it wasn't blatently obvious before, TC has been "put on hold" (read as: Never Going To Happen!!!) by Rapid Reality (*snicker, snicker*) and mmocenter.com officially.
Of course they are very sorry about all this but do not hesitate to point out that all of this was the fault of the old Management Team and it was frustrating for everyone involved, wow I bet it was !. /sarcasm.
And then of course, they don't hesitate to tout this "new" version of Endless Ages they are now "saying" is going to be released.
With all this, can we finally have this forum evaporated into non-existence. Can we finally stop giving this company any sort of autheticity and make sure we keep a vigil over them and make sure they never go around blatently lying to a gaming community ever again.
Let us be done with this now, for good.
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"MMOCenter. Where it's always someone else's fault."
Later TC. You looked great on paper, but there's probably a reason it was only ever on paper.
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
I believe the plan is to remove this forum and game listing shortly. We've had legnthy conversations with the Admin about it and feel we should give it a short time for you all to vent your frustrations properly and without interference from us.
Again, sorry for the past year and a half and I hope you can put it behind you for the future. If that means we have to show you we're different, then it won't be a problem, as we've already demonstrated we're quite the different company then we were previously.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
I was even right when I said that EA2 would be their new mystery game to be beta released soon. Even though RR stated "NO, its not EA2"!
Then a couple of weeks later... hahaha...
Anyway, I do believe they are trying to start over to gain new credability. I do belive its an honest try by them.
But... if RR or CG even ONCE tries to withhold information, all cred will be lost again. This time forever.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
searching for the next DAoC....
Kay-exile
I'm just happy people wont be taken in by this company again, at least for awhile.
They can use all the condasention, sarcasm, double speak and talk of change they want but those who have followed, researched and really fought for the truth in this case know what's what. We were left out to dry by almost everyone but knew what was right and what was wrong, we believed that how we were being treated was wrong and I think there is a certain amount of vindication in this weeks events, even though mmorpg.com or the former mmocenter will not admit to it.
Personally, I think it's deplorable they are even being given a chance to voice anything anymore but the admins here at mmorpg.com know much better how to guide the community than I do.
CG just a quick, last word.
You can be your usual sarcastic self, you can tell us to f^&*$ ourselves in that casual little way you have and like I said you can talk of change and "new management" all you want but know this. Those of us that don't believe every single line you feed us, who actually question things, who followed from the start and were treated like crap by you, we wont forget and dont' think for one second your comming out of this squeaky clean.
Customers have a long memory CG, very long.
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Awesome. :-)
Now that you've got that out of your system, you should let me know how to begin the healing process. I've publicly said many times recently that we're starting from behind, so if you have a method you think would help: I'm all ears, because I really do want to make things right again. That puts the ball in your court.
If you don't tell me what you'd like changed, I can't change it.
Not that it'll change who I am in person, but it's hard to see what a person is like on a Forum or Chat. All the visitors we've had to the studio highly enjoyed their visit and dealings with me. I'm pretty personable and friendly.
If you live in the area, comon in. I throw a pot of coffee on and we'll chat.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Oh I wouldn't worry about me, I feel plenty healed already
Like I said, I really think this week was a vindication for those of us that truly felt and knew you were lying to us and were not afraid or to busy kissing your ass to call you on it. No maybe we didn't win directly and maybe we had to wait till you guys finally admited to all the lies in your own special little ways but still, we stopped a whole slew of people from falling into your little web and I guess in the end yeah... that makes me feel pretty good.
Since you brought it up CG, no the ball is not in my/our court and this is what you've never, EVER been able to grasp. It's sooooooooooooooo far in your court we can't ever see the damned ball, it's always been there, you've just never done anything with it. In fact, we keep pitching a new ball at your face hoping for a throw-back only to see you scuttle away and stash it somewhere never to be seen or heard from again.
We've told you what needs to change, we've told you that we don't trust you, we told you we think your liars and we've called you out on every single things you've said. What exactly more do you want from us?
Prove to us you can do something/anything that you guys say your going to do, start building on solid ground and stop treating the people you've lied to for the last year like crap.
You've appologized a few times now and that's great, honestly, appology accepted if that makes you feel better.
But don't assume that negates all your liability and responsibility for past actions.
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I read this line and thought "Fig Newtons". mmm
Other then Fig Newtons, which are damn tasty, I just want you all to ask questions so I can answer them and show that things have changed.
Our Corporate Site (which will not have Forums) is launching this week or next. I realize that we said it was launching sooner, but our Web programmer had to fly to California for a Family something, and it did not get finished in time.
So how's that as a start and we'll go from there?
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Fig indeed.
Foolish of me to expect any other kind of reaction? Absolutely! But the truth always inspires this from you guys, doesn't it?
Anywhoooooooo. New web site doesn't have forums? No surprise there, as well as it not being ready for when you said it would, again, no surprises. Life happens right
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How about you guys actually produce something... anything and that's where we'll start from.
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Yeah, sometimes life sucks and you have to fly across the country because of sickness or death. Right?
Out of curiosity, who's Corporate site has Forums? The Game Site will have Forums - it's a hands down "MUST HAVE" item. But a Corporate site?
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
no kidding. because you would get knocked out if you talked to people irl like you do here.
i can just see it, i pop into the endless ages HQ in atlanta
me: hi im looking for CG he told me to meet him here today
RRscammer: uh..no he didnt
me: sure he did i have a tape of his phone message
RRscammer: let me see that..*destroys tape* uh..no he didn't
me:*recognizes CG from his old pictures he used to have on this site* hey you, get out from under the desk CG..
RRscammer: no, thats just a cat..
CG:*creeping out* oh hi. i know i said december 28th, but i didn't say this year! *smirk*
me: give me a break you told me to come up today and chat over some coffeee
CG: oh are you going to cry little girl? let it out its bad to keep it in.
me: *roundhouse kick to cg's chin, leaves to catch a thrashers game while im in town(might as well before they leave the city)*
Are you coming right now?
Man, you should send an E-Mail or something so I can put the pot on.
Actually Milo Stone comes over whenever he feels like it now, and Brando's apparently planning his 3rd trip here. Nobody hides when Community shows up, we're all pretty anxious to chat with them.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Then an opportunity was presented to me such as he has proposed here...
Come on down... have some food... see what we really are doing... let's chat...
true... nothing was finished... but I did get to see some of what was done... with NDA's and all I can't bring much of it up except that it looked sweet... but then...
a few of us started asking for time frames... and I learned quickly what it was like to deal with some of their management... they are cool when they aren't bothered with a date... or have to make a decision about releasing info... but they wanted to keep even some of the stuff that CG and the guys got to show us a secret... hell I think they would have rather us not have see what we got to... but hey we got to anyways... got to try one of the guys cooking... which btw isn't half bad... then we got to talk in depth with several artists... programmers... and got to check out some of the lore... all in all it was a great visit... which got cut short cause of the person that went with me had to go home... *cries for not being able to go drink with you guys*... oh wait... I came back down and did ... lol ... but yea... they are good guys... a little rough... but good guys none the less
I want to personally thank CG and Caustic again for the visit I got earlier this year... thanks guys...I hope to be able to get back down there... it was you that made it possible for some of us to come... and Caustic... get a hold of me on msn... you too CG...
Hmmm so CG is a smart-ass... deal with a community of assholes and jerk offs all day every day and you get to be that way...but hell some of you seem to be asses as well... so get the hell off your podium and give these guys a shot... They may have problems actually releasing something as of yet... but I can attest to their work... and it is superb... and if what is going on is what I believe... we are in for a good time yet...
Yeah, sometimes life sucks and you have to fly across the country because of sickness or death. Right?
Out of curiosity, who's Corporate site has Forums? The Game Site will have Forums - it's a hands down "MUST HAVE" item. But a Corporate site?
lol wait, wait, wait here. For the first time in a long time I don't give you a hard time on something and actually agree with you and I get what back... sarcasm? hehe, meh, ok.
Moving on.
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Yeah, sometimes life sucks and you have to fly across the country because of sickness or death. Right?
Out of curiosity, who's Corporate site has Forums? The Game Site will have Forums - it's a hands down "MUST HAVE" item. But a Corporate site?
lol wait, wait, wait here. For the first time in a long time I don't give you a hard time on something and actually agree with you and I get what back... sarcasm? hehe, meh, ok.
Moving on.
I didn't read it that way.
I guess that makes for a perfect example of how tone can be mis-interpreted over the Internet.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
I really hope, for the sake of humanity, that all this crap is being posted out of bordom.
You can't possible be serious about all this... Give it a rest.
Can someone PLEASE tell me what the real issue is? I can't find it in all this mess.
You hate RR? You hate CG? I don't know; but I do know it's all pointless.
Every business has it's ups and downs. I think RR is about to have a nice healthy up. If you have any level of maturity, I think you can let go of your grudges and give them another chance.