I can't inderstand one think. Why all WoW players think this vote is unfair? Despite WoW has many more players than Eve, Eve finally won. You know why? Because WoW players don't care too much for their game, and unless you stop for a while and vote, WoW will never get on the top. WoW should have 6 mil votes on it, but Eve won. I've played WoW's trial and i think is a good game indeed. Instead of complaining, try out Eve. Then you should vote. I'm an Eve player and i think Eve diserved these awards.
Actually its because CCP posted a link to the awards on the main page of eve online, Blizzard didn't do that.
What a complete farce. In no way is EVE Online the best MMO out there. Sure, people are starting to get sick of WoW, but COME ON! It wins in pretty much every category possible? Something is seriously wrong with that.
Well, this didn't turn out to be a surprise. Get 100 rabid fangirls of Elvis Presley to vote on BEST SINGER, MOST ATTRACTIVE SINGER, MOST INTELLIGENT SINGER, and MOST CHARITABLE SINGER and they'll all vote Elvis with their eyes closed. It's the same thing here. The EvE fans all zerged the polls and congratulations. Now hundreds of poor newbies will see these results and try out EvE Online and get bored within days.
EvE won because it has a massive presence on the internet - you never hear about it when conversing casually with people who know only the basics of MMORPGs - WoW, EQ2, FFXI. They don't need some website to put up stupid half-rigged awards to get them subscribers, whereas EvE and its fanboys seem to have mmorpg.com in their pocket. Here's hoping next year's contest will be fair.
They should just ban everybody that created an account just for voting. People spamming votes for their favorite game just sucks!
I mean come on! 26% for PVP in WoW ?????
PvP and WoW shouldnt even be mentioned at the same time!
Now seriously, for all you sore losers out there: stop whining!
All that "my game is better, why didnt it win?" and "Boooohoo CCP did rig the elections!" pisses me off. Its not CCPs fault that Blizzard doesnt give a damn about mmorpg.com. If people think that PvE in WoW is worse then in EvE so be it.
Considering the attitude on this board its no wonder that people only use the accounts for voting.
When I first came to this site, almost a year ago, I was surpirsed to see EVE as being the highest rank. EVE isn't a bad game, in fact its a good one. It's learning curve and detail made quite a few folks shy away for the more popular MMOG's.
Now I see another year of voting and EVE wins across the board ? For PvE even? Sorry EVE players, but the poll obvious has been skewed. If it was posted on their forums to come and vote here then hands down it wins the 'Dedicated Community' award. And for as many people as I see on these boards bash EQ2 and WoW, how can you possibly argue with the success they games have displayed? WoW alone is a monster with a foothold in popular culture next to the original 'Evercrack' and 'The Sims'. Good PR alone doesn't cut it. Where is written that EVE boats more profit and players than the other MMO's mentioned? Some numbers you can debate but an active player base you can't.
Now I don't know if the staff of MMORPG.com are EVE fanatics, CCP sponsored or the unoffical home of EVE players and SWG NGE haters. What I do know is that ratings are reviews are pretty skewed here and creditability for this site dropped quite a few notches;Not just in my book but a slew of others as well (and they're not 'fanbois' of non EVE games either). The response to the awards illusrate that.
Note to Staff: You might want to revaluate your metrics before your reputation takes any more hits.
Man you nailed it on the head. This site should just became an eve online sister site. I laugh at the eve fanboi's, Eve is not a bad game but, Its not the best game ever either. And with wow having a 5 million + playerbase, if they cared about this site and any polls it did, it would have won hands down. Can anyone really take this site seriously anymore. This site is pretty much like the state of mmo's these days. Crappy games that people play for a month or two before they get bored to death. Mmorpg's are a dieing type of game now. Developers are listening to hardcore players and ending up with a game that can't do numbers better than 150k. If anything this site is a new games worse nightmare. New developers would be wise to stay away from advertising their game here.
Man you nailed it on the head. This site should just became an eve online sister site. I laugh at the eve fanboi's, Eve is not a bad game but, Its not the best game ever either. And with wow having a 5 million + playerbase, if they cared about this site and any polls it did, it would have won hands down. Can anyone really take this site seriously anymore. This site is pretty much like the state of mmo's these days. Crappy games that people play for a month or two before they get bored to death. Mmorpg's are a dieing type of game now. Developers are listening to hardcore players and ending up with a game that can't do numbers better than 150k. If anything this site is a new games worse nightmare. New developers would be wise to stay away from advertising their game here.
Yea, and what does this say about the wow audience?
How can you say that mmorpg´s are a dieing type? What are you basing this opinion off`? The amount of players in the last few years?
Whats so bad about listening to hardcore players? You have wow for the generic gamer and all the other games for the rest.
Well it was mentioned previously, probably buried a few pages back, but a possible reason for the lack of Other Game votes was that since this site allows buygold.com ads, other official sites will not allow links on their forums to here. Apparently the EVE devs/staff doesn't have a problem with it so they allowed the link. Blizzard and SOE did have a problem with it and wouldn't allow a link to here. I heard there were some posts about this vote, but the posts were removed on both the WoW and EQ2 forums.
Oh well, certainately can't say EVE doesn't have devoted fans in any case.
some serious thought needs to go into the next players choice awards. this one was totally fubbarred, with questions asked, catagories etc.
i voted in every catagory, but it was like being tied to a rail.
outcomes werent a surprise. some thought needs to go into the next one, preferably with explanations for the voters that dont understand the questions you ask and vote simply to put their faves in the running.
can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.
They should just ban everybody that created an account just for voting. People spamming votes for their favorite game just sucks!
I mean come on! 26% for PVP in WoW ?????
PvP and WoW shouldnt even be mentioned at the same time!
Now seriously, for all you sore losers out there: stop whining!
All that "my game is better, why didnt it win?" and "Boooohoo CCP did rig the elections!" pisses me off. Its not CCPs fault that Blizzard doesnt give a damn about mmorpg.com. If people think that PvE in WoW is worse then in EvE so be it.
Considering the attitude on this board its no wonder that people only use the accounts for voting.
Yes because heaven forbids people actually like the battlegrounds & fast paced, moving combat in WoW
Well it was mentioned previously, probably buried a few pages back, but a possible reason for the lack of Other Game votes was that since this site allows buygold.com ads, other official sites will not allow links on their forums to here. Apparently the EVE devs/staff doesn't have a problem with it so they allowed the link. Blizzard and SOE did have a problem with it and wouldn't allow a link to here. I heard there were some posts about this vote, but the posts were removed on both the WoW and EQ2 forums. Oh well, certainately can't say EVE doesn't have devoted fans in any case.
This is probably because CCP have largly sorted out the inevitable gold farming problem by making sure trial accounts cant accesss certain tools therefore seriously limiting there mining capabilitys.
And soon asteroid belts the Eve gold farmers only cource of income will soon be turned into random moving entitys that have to be found with a scanner probe which cant be turned into a macro command due to its variable which should further muck up the macros
PVE? No way! Story? What story? WOW? I'm not 11!!!
EVE deserves to be best game, it's 100000 times deeper and more complex then any mmo out there. Not all prizes should have been won by EVE but hey, where are other games to compete against? WOW? City of Heroes?!? Or some non-mmo titles like Guild Wars?!? Don't be kidding me, get some competition out there before you start bitching about results of the pool! Right now we get games like 9dragons etc comming out... wuuuuuurg... you think these will beat EVE?
Bottom line: EVE rocks if you are into SF. Number of votes proves many are. WOW? Played by people that can't even surf properly to cast a vote... or don't even care about it..
Now lets talk companies behind the games
Blizzard: Money only company, max the profit by selling mainstream recycled ideas. Customers? Pay or beat it! Sony: Muahahahahahahaha... ok next .... list goes on without change... CCP: Brave and experimental, one server, content before looks, no ripoff policy.
Get the picture now? I have no doubt CCP will turn into (B)Lizzard later on since there is no escaping the 'call of the cash' but right now they are a breath of fresh air... for years!
Look at the facts before you go 'fanboying' your fav game.
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
Well, this didn't turn out to be a surprise. Get 100 rabid fangirls of Elvis Presley to vote on BEST SINGER, MOST ATTRACTIVE SINGER, MOST INTELLIGENT SINGER, and MOST CHARITABLE SINGER and they'll all vote Elvis with their eyes closed. It's the same thing here. The EvE fans all zerged the polls and congratulations. Now hundreds of poor newbies will see these results and try out EvE Online and get bored within days.
ahem .. what's your argument now??
that newbies might try EVE's 14-day trial and might not enjoy it?
lets take a look -
if someone tries a game on a trial and he likes it ... so what's wrong with this?
if someone tries a game on a trial and doesn't like it ... he doesn't have to play the game then - no one will force him to log-in to play a game he doesn't enjoy (and if everyone tells you the game is great, and you still don't enjoy it .. no problem, it's YOUR choice not theirs)
if someone subscribes to a game without trying it out first just because someone told him it's a great game? ... come on - you're a bit pesimistic about their intelligence ain't ya?
Originally posted by Aletto
EvE won because it has a massive presence on the internet - you never hear about it when conversing casually with people who know only the basics of MMORPGs - WoW, EQ2, FFXI. They don't need some website to put up stupid half-rigged awards to get them subscribers, whereas EvE and its fanboys seem to have mmorpg.com in their pocket. Here's hoping next year's contest will be fair.
so uhm .. according to your logic - "people who know only the basics of MMORPGs" don't use the internet as "EVE won because it has a massive presence on the internet"? and i "never heard about" certain niche artists "when conversing casually with people who" aren't that much into music - so does this "never heard about them in casual talk" say something about 'quality'? [take a look at the whole MTV stuff before you phrase your counterargument ]
and what wasn't fair about this award and what actually was rigged?? can you tell me this? did everyone besides of EVE start with -1000 votes? or were the votes of EVE players multiplied by 2? or were all non-EVE players ip-blocked from the vote?
Eve winning best graphics over EQ2?? are you people on the same planet as me? thats quite sad tbh.
Graphics involve more than Pure graphical power and numbers of triangles and shaders. Its also about artistic style and EQ2 is about as artistic as plastic.
Man you nailed it on the head. This site should just became an eve online sister site. I laugh at the eve fanboi's, Eve is not a bad game but, Its not the best game ever either. And with wow having a 5 million + playerbase, if they cared about this site and any polls it did, it would have won hands down. .
so, if this is eve online sister site, how do you explain wow forums having 4x times as many posts and topics than eve forums on this site? in fact eve's forums got less activity than GW and EQ2 forums also.
not only that, up there on the right corner you see there are 500k members on this site, yet 4k voted for eve only, and you say this is rigging the polls?
bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
accept it, EVE won, that is it. there is no conspiracy here. it is just a better game.
oh, and for those talking about new accounts created just to vote for EVE, remember last year EVE won 4 categories out of 3 nominations!!!!!! i guess it was rigged also last year
These results simply indicate that a large number of EVE players frequent MMORPG.com. Other than that its just fluff. Readers choice is for fun only. Let the EVE players have fun with it. I'm not in the least bit surprised by these results. We'll probably see the same thing next year regardless of whatever comes of the current crop of games. EVE fans are rabid.
Edit: This note is for the editor: Next year just use the results from the first round of voting. EVE will still win but at least we can see some of the other results. Having WoW as the only other option on the "final vote" greatly skews what people really think of that game.
I'm rather new to these forums but from what i have understood there was a voting, most people voted on WoW and EVE therefor between those 2 EVE has won...right?, ifso why are people so uptide about its outcome, i mean i play wow havn't touch EVE but congrates EVE on your win, maybe if i look at some other forum/poll/topic on a different website a maybe totaly different game might have won.
I'm rather new to these forums but from what i have understood there was a voting, most people voted on WoW and EVE therefor between those 2 EVE has won...right?, ifso why are people so uptide about its outcome, i mean i play wow havn't touch EVE but congrates EVE on your win, maybe if i look at some other forum/poll/topic on a different website a maybe totaly different game might have won.
People are angry because a large group of MMOG players feel that EVE is a really boring game and doesn't deserve its accolades. Its all just opinion. A lot of people like it and a lot don't and the ones that do like it seem to enjoy mocking those that don't as inferior in some silly way. This in turn cause the mocked player to retaliate which in turn causes a flame war. You then see threads with 150+ replies with titles like "Why EVE is the best game ever" or "EVE is horrible..." or some obvious flame bait.
I loose respect for this site when I see horse crap like this. I have 3 accounts on EVE and it definatly didn't deserve to win every single damn categorie.
I'm rather new to these forums but from what i have understood there was a voting, most people voted on WoW and EVE therefor between those 2 EVE has won...right?, ifso why are people so uptide about its outcome, i mean i play wow havn't touch EVE but congrates EVE on your win, maybe if i look at some other forum/poll/topic on a different website a maybe totaly different game might have won.
Its a shame that there are not more people like you
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EvE won because it has a massive presence on the internet - you never hear about it when conversing casually with people who know only the basics of MMORPGs - WoW, EQ2, FFXI. They don't need some website to put up stupid half-rigged awards to get them subscribers, whereas EvE and its fanboys seem to have mmorpg.com in their pocket. Here's hoping next year's contest will be fair.
CCP didn't lobby for votes. They did post a link on the web site. But that was the extent of it.
Could it be that Eve players are the ones that actually bothered to show up and vote?
Some of the games with much larger player bases could have easily walked away with awards had their players actually cared.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
They should just ban everybody that created an account just for voting. People spamming votes for their favorite game just sucks!
I mean come on! 26% for PVP in WoW ?????
PvP and WoW shouldnt even be mentioned at the same time!
Now seriously, for all you sore losers out there: stop whining!
All that "my game is better, why didnt it win?" and "Boooohoo CCP did rig the elections!" pisses me off. Its not CCPs fault that Blizzard doesnt give a damn about mmorpg.com. If people think that PvE in WoW is worse then in EvE so be it.
Considering the attitude on this board its no wonder that people only use the accounts for voting.
How can you say that mmorpg´s are a dieing type? What are you basing this opinion off`? The amount of players in the last few years?
Whats so bad about listening to hardcore players? You have wow for the generic gamer and all the other games for the rest.
Eve is quite good, but it's got a steep learning curve, and it's not all handed to you on a plate, you have to go out and find the good stuff.
No way it should have won all those though, not in the state it's in at the moment.
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Pay-to-Win / F2P will be the death of real gaming, Boycott it !!
Well it was mentioned previously, probably buried a few pages back, but a possible reason for the lack of Other Game votes was that since this site allows buygold.com ads, other official sites will not allow links on their forums to here. Apparently the EVE devs/staff doesn't have a problem with it so they allowed the link. Blizzard and SOE did have a problem with it and wouldn't allow a link to here. I heard there were some posts about this vote, but the posts were removed on both the WoW and EQ2 forums.
Oh well, certainately can't say EVE doesn't have devoted fans in any case.
some serious thought needs to go into the next players choice awards. this one was totally fubbarred, with questions asked, catagories etc.
i voted in every catagory, but it was like being tied to a rail.
outcomes werent a surprise. some thought needs to go into the next one, preferably with explanations for the voters that dont understand the questions you ask and vote simply to put their faves in the running.
can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.
This is probably because CCP have largly sorted out the inevitable gold farming problem by making sure trial accounts cant accesss certain tools therefore seriously limiting there mining capabilitys.
And soon asteroid belts the Eve gold farmers only cource of income will soon be turned into random moving entitys that have to be found with a scanner probe which cant be turned into a macro command due to its variable which should further muck up the macros
1. Graphics
2. PVP
3. Best game
PVE? No way! Story? What story? WOW? I'm not 11!!!
EVE deserves to be best game, it's 100000 times deeper and more complex then any mmo out there. Not all prizes should have been won by EVE but hey, where are other games to compete against? WOW? City of Heroes?!? Or some non-mmo titles like Guild Wars?!? Don't be kidding me, get some competition out there before you start bitching about results of the pool! Right now we get games like 9dragons etc comming out... wuuuuuurg... you think these will beat EVE?
Bottom line: EVE rocks if you are into SF. Number of votes proves many are. WOW? Played by people that can't even surf properly to cast a vote... or don't even care about it..
Now lets talk companies behind the games
Blizzard: Money only company, max the profit by selling mainstream recycled ideas. Customers? Pay or beat it!
Sony: Muahahahahahahaha... ok next
.... list goes on without change...
CCP: Brave and experimental, one server, content before looks, no ripoff policy.
Get the picture now? I have no doubt CCP will turn into (B)Lizzard later on since there is no escaping the 'call of the cash' but right now they are a breath of fresh air... for years!
Look at the facts before you go 'fanboying' your fav game.
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
These guys are happy as long as they can afford enough booze.
that newbies might try EVE's 14-day trial and might not enjoy it?
lets take a look -
if someone tries a game on a trial and he likes it ... so what's wrong with this?
if someone tries a game on a trial and doesn't like it ... he doesn't have to play the game then - no one will force him to log-in to play a game he doesn't enjoy (and if everyone tells you the game is great, and you still don't enjoy it .. no problem, it's YOUR choice not theirs)
if someone subscribes to a game without trying it out first just because someone told him it's a great game? ... come on - you're a bit pesimistic about their intelligence ain't ya?
Originally posted by Aletto
EvE won because it has a massive presence on the internet - you never hear about it when conversing casually with people who know only the basics of MMORPGs - WoW, EQ2, FFXI. They don't need some website to put up stupid half-rigged awards to get them subscribers, whereas EvE and its fanboys seem to have mmorpg.com in their pocket. Here's hoping next year's contest will be fair.
so uhm .. according to your logic - "people who know only the basics of MMORPGs" don't use the internet as "EVE won because it has a massive presence on the internet"? and i "never heard about" certain niche artists "when conversing casually with people who" aren't that much into music - so does this "never heard about them in casual talk" say something about 'quality'? [take a look at the whole MTV stuff before you phrase your counterargument
and what wasn't fair about this award and what actually was rigged?? can you tell me this? did everyone besides of EVE start with -1000 votes? or were the votes of EVE players multiplied by 2? or were all non-EVE players ip-blocked from the vote?
so, if this is eve online sister site, how do you explain wow forums having 4x times as many posts and topics than eve forums on this site? in fact eve's forums got less activity than GW and EQ2 forums also.
not only that, up there on the right corner you see there are 500k members on this site, yet 4k voted for eve only, and you say this is rigging the polls?
bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
accept it, EVE won, that is it. there is no conspiracy here. it is just a better game.
oh, and for those talking about new accounts created just to vote for EVE, remember last year EVE won 4 categories out of 3 nominations!!!!!! i guess it was rigged also last year
congrats EVE and CCP
Edit: This note is for the editor: Next year just use the results from the first round of voting. EVE will still win but at least we can see some of the other results. Having WoW as the only other option on the "final vote" greatly skews what people really think of that game.
I'm rather new to these forums but from what i have understood there was a voting, most people voted on WoW and EVE therefor between those 2 EVE has won...right?, ifso why are people so uptide about its outcome, i mean i play wow havn't touch EVE but congrates EVE on your win, maybe if i look at some other forum/poll/topic on a different website a maybe totaly different game might have won.
KK.